Nick85 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Now that the U.S. tour is over, and has finished on a spectacularly high note, it's officially time to look full steam ahead to the next album. A few years back during the forum chats, Axl claimed that work on many other songs (Atlas Shrugged, Soul Monster, The General, etc.) was more or less completed and even stated that he was considering a 2009 release, a year apart from CD. Obviously, Robin's subsequent departure from the band, trouble with the label, management, tour concerns, and God knows what else threw a wrench into those (albeit loose) plans, and we've had no new music from the band since 2008.We've been hearing from practically every single member, including Axl, that 2012 will see the band look to the next album. But what will that involve? I can't see Axl simply burying tracks we've been hearing about for years, (like The General, Atlas, Soul Monster) to start fresh with the current lineup, which poses an interesting question. Will the current lineup "spruce up" those tracks, or are they going to do something completely fresh?In my opinion, it would be cool to have them release those older tracks in a separate album which would tide the fans over while the current lineup starts fresh and does their own thing.My reason for that is that if we have Bucket/Brain/Robin penned songs on the next album as well as DJ/Ron penned songs, the sounds may clash and may greatly affect the 'flow' of the album.I'm looking forward to new GNR music and would take it any way I can get it, truth be told. Any ideas what it might look like once it materializes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Release the unreleased shit while working on new shit and then release it afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seely Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Original thread is original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Release the unreleased shit while working on new shit and then release it afterwards.this!...this shit isn't supposed to be this complicated, it's just music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfriend Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who gives a shit, it'll all be new to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Release the unreleased shit while working on new shit and then release it afterwards.this!...this shit isn't supposed to be this complicated, it's just music...Agreed, releasing the older stuff first while working on "new" tracks seems like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, Axl's cryptic remarks about having to see where they stand with the label might make things...uncertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Release the unreleased shit while working on new shit and then release it afterwards.this!...this shit isn't supposed to be this complicated, it's just music...Agreed, releasing the older stuff first while working on "new" tracks seems like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, Axl's cryptic remarks about having to see where they stand with the label might make things...uncertain. Gn'R has nothing to do with logic, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Release the unreleased shit while working on new shit and then release it afterwards.this!...this shit isn't supposed to be this complicated, it's just music...Agreed, releasing the older stuff first while working on "new" tracks seems like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, Axl's cryptic remarks about having to see where they stand with the label might make things...uncertain. Gn'R Axl has nothing to do with logic, unfortunately.yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I personally would rather hear any Bucket/Finck stuff first, but new music is new music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 When's Bucket's next album coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 I personally would rather hear any Bucket/Finck stuff first, but new music is new music.My thoughts exactly. Originally, I was really hoping the rest of the Finck/Bucket stuff would go untouched, as they were the ones who wrote and originally conceived the other yet-unreleased tracks from the CD Era. But like I said in my OP, at this point I'll take new music any way I can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who gives a shit, it'll all be new to us.Couldn't agree more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 They prob write a new album and redo the CD era stuff. Compare contrast and reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkadelic Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Gn'R has nothing to do with logic, unfortunately.Gn'R has nothing to do with releasing albums, unfortunatly Seriously though, it'd be awesome if they made a new album with this line up and released CDII while we're waiting for the new stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verruckt Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Like everyone else on this forum (except the morons) I want to hear new music. But the realist in me sees that Axl is a perfectionist and sees GNR albums first and foremost as his artistic creations and a direct reflection on him. At least, that's the way he's approached recording for the past couple of decades. The optimist in me would like to think that the current band has gelled so well and inspired Axl to the extent that he might be willing to actually record something new and release it with a reasonable amount of tweaking, but the realist in me says STFU. We'll see. Edited January 7, 2012 by Verruckt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Release the unreleased shit while working on new shit and then release it afterwards.this!...this shit isn't supposed to be this complicated, it's just music...Agreed, releasing the older stuff first while working on "new" tracks seems like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, Axl's cryptic remarks about having to see where they stand with the label might make things...uncertain. Gn'R has nothing to do with logic, unfortunately.This.Really I can admire the enthusiasm for new material, but it has become redundant and has been redundant for many, many years over many many cycles. Before Chidem came out it was "2002/03/04/05/06/07" is the perfect time". Then it was "2010 is the perfect time" when they toured. Then "2011 is the perfect time" and now this year. Fact is, not even Axl himself knows when it is coming out. If they are working out an arrangement with the label it could take a year at best and who knows how sporadic those discussions occur.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The label just needs to shut up and do what Axl says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The reality is that record labels might not be jumping at the opportunity to work with GNR because of the ordeal it took to get ChiDem out and how much money it cost Geffen. Van Halen recorded everything before shopping the new one around, and were pretty successful at keeping it from being leaked. If GNR come up with a finished recording and self-release one or two songs, maybe one for a soundtrack, one just to put something new out, that might be the best thing for them to do. I do think the current band has a lot to offer in the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I think leaks are done on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The problem with that theory is that Geffen has already paid for a lot of the material that's been recorded. Although if Guns were forced to start financing the recordings themselves at one point as has been reported, it could be a sticky situation figuring out who owes who what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Seeing as Axl was ready to put out CD II in 2009 I think we must be close but so far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) The problem with that theory is that Geffen has already paid for a lot of the material that's been recorded. Although if Guns were forced to start financing the recordings themselves at one point as has been reported, it could be a sticky situation figuring out who owes who what.YES! This man gets it!! Geffen/Interscope/Universal funded the studio time, musician/engineer/producer/tech salaries, equipment etc for like 8 years before they cut funding. Anything recorded up until they ceased funding pretty much belongs to them as it was done on their dime. I'm pretty sure even if Axl fulfilled his contract they could still use the recordings to put out a special edition or B-sides album much like how labels do "best ofs" long after bands have fulfilled their obligations to the label. Edited January 7, 2012 by Young_Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Do u think the label are monitoring the forums waiting for the right time to drop CD II? If so I'd like to assure them the money is in 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrain50 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Each song should be it's own entity. It shouldn't have to "flow" as you say for the album to work. I'd rather each song be given the attention it needs to be a work of art that would stand on it's own rather than as a collection. Songs are more important than the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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