Towelie Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 No, not really. It's two unrelated EPs put together, so it's not really a cohesive album in the sense that all the songs weren't written for that album. Each half works individually of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's a half live half stripped down/acoustic EP, and its great. Not sure what you mean by proper but I love it so I said yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Love it but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's a half live half stripped down/acoustic EP, and its great. Not sure what you mean by proper but I love it so I said yes.Let me put it this way, what do you consider to be the follow-up to AFD, Lies or UYI?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's a half live half stripped down/acoustic EP, and its great. Not sure what you mean by proper but I love it so I said yes.Let me put it this way, what do you consider to be the follow-up to AFD, Lies or UYI??UYI, Lies are just a slap dash collection of songs that are better than many give credit for. The last four Lies tracks are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's a half live half stripped down/acoustic EP, and its great. Not sure what you mean by proper but I love it so I said yes.Let me put it this way, what do you consider to be the follow-up to AFD, Lies or UYI??UYI, Lies are just a slap dash collection of songs that are better than many give credit for. The last four Lies tracks are great.Agreed. I would go as far as saying that Patience / Used To Love Her / You're Crazy / One In A Million is one of the strongest four track sequences on any GNR album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 No, not a proper album. I think an acoustic album with 10 songs on it would have been fucking great. Those 4 songs are so good.I also like the live like a suicide thing, but the acoustic stuff is on a different level imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) It's a half live half stripped down/acoustic EP, and its great. Not sure what you mean by proper but I love it so I said yes.Let me put it this way, what do you consider to be the follow-up to AFD, Lies or UYI??I'd say Lies because it felt more like an actual follow up, maintaining the same simple 5 piece rock band vibe but with a different feel. UYI was a step in another direction, and ultimately sounds like a more fine tuned machine with Sorum on drums instead of Adler, not to mention all the other influences tossed in. But I guess I can understand why somebody would consider UYI a follow up for the same reason, I just think Lies is different enough from AFD to be considered the same, even if it was so rag tag. That was the thing about GNR though, if they didn't get so huge we probably would have seen a few more of those cool little stylized EP's before enough money was made for another full length. GNR blew the fuck up though.I don't get the notion of discrediting a release just because it isn't a traditional LP, whats the point of that? It's still new music from the band, and it is what they came out with between UYI and AFD. Even if it was done in a matter of days (i think thats what makes it so special, one session for the acoustic songs?) I don't see why it shouldn't be considered their sophomore release, its a damn good 8 songs.Technically though, it isn't. In publications LP's are acknowledged ahead of EP's because they're larger productions. I just don't like to be so rigid when talking about music like that, seems pointless to me. Edited January 15, 2012 by sweetness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimera Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I've met some people who think Lies is their best album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I see it as an EP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I've met some people who think Lies is their best album.I think that could be conclusively argued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 UYI was a step in another direction, and ultimately sounds like a more fine tuned machine with Sorum on drums instead of Adler, not to mention all the other influences tossed in. See, to me it's the exact opposite. Sure, you're right about Sorum vs Adler. But overall: with AFD there was more collaboration, with everybody involved in everything, from songwriting to input on production and mixing. And you can hear it in the music. With UYI, it's a raging wildfire, complete chaos, with everyone pulling in a different direction. And you can also hear it in the music. (I personally prefer the latter: I think this creativity born of conflict is brilliant, albeit always short lived, but UYI is my favorite album [to me it's a single album] of all time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiegun Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Needs another 4 songs from the studio imo, of the rock variety rock1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No, it'll always be an EP in my eyes. Not that takes away from it musically or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's an EP. It reminds of AiC's Sap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I thought they released LLAS on Lies because the originals were going for outrageous amounts of money in the mom and pop stores. They could have added a bunch of songs to it and made it a full length album if they wanted. It actually clocks in around the same length as most of Classic VH's albums do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November Rainman Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Yes. There are plenty of live/studio albums out there. Ummagumma by Pink Floyd is the same, great album. Plus all the songs are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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