Georgy Zhukov Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think we need a guitar solo directory for the current lineup and their live showsI will start with November Rain.First solo is Richard FortusSecond solo is DJ AshbaThird is Ron Thal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah they get complex like thatEstranged First solo by Ashba Second solo by RonSCOM has Ashba playing the slow part where Ron gets the shredderNightrain I see Fortus doing Izzy's solo and Ron does the rest.I think Ron gets a of crowd pleasesDid Ron do It's so Easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No lineup has played RQ the way it is played nowoh please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No lineup has played RQ the way it is played nowoh please You may not agree but don't cupcake the thread. This can be fun.then tout the band on the merits of their own work/material, not someone else's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No lineup has played RQ the way it is played nowoh please You may not agree but don't cupcake the thread. This can be fun.then tout the band on the merits of their own work/material, not someone else's...I like Rocket Queen better now, mainly because of the intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 I thought Ron was doing the Buckethead parts so I am surprised Ashba got Sorry and Fortus got Madagascar. Obviously Ron does SR and TWAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 SCOM has Ashba playing the slow part where Ron gets the shredderNightrain I see Fortus doing Izzy's solo and Ron does the rest.I think Ron gets a of crowd pleasesDid Ron do It's so Easy?DJ also plays the slow solos after choruses in Sweet Child.For Nightrain DJ also plays a little bit of the end solo up until Axl yells "Never to return! Take it!" and then Ron takes over with the shred solo.I think DJ plays all of It's So Easy whereas Buckethead played the outro solo during hes tenure with the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Welcome to the Jungle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Jungle:- DJ plays the first solo after the second verse and the lead under Axl's big "Yeah!" scream after the bridge- Ron plays the main solo after the big "Yeah!" screamEdit:- Richard plays the lick in the intro that Izzy used to play, DJ plays the main echo riff (for lack of a better thing to call it), Ron does the chordsListen to the original recording with headphones and you'll hear all three parts (Izzy on the left, chords on the right, echo riff in center). Edited February 14, 2012 by Paul Stanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Why are there three guitarists in the band?Mainly for the Chinese Democracy stuff which has a lot going on, but it also allows them to cover every last note of the old stuff.For example, any Guns song from Appetite to the Illusions generally has three or more guitar tracks in the studio. You have Izzy's rhythm on the left channel, Slash's on the right, and leads/solos mixed center. There are exceptions to this of course, but that's generally how it is. Jungle alone in the studio has three guitars going in the intro alone as I mentioned in my previous post. That's the thing with studio work, you can add as many guitars as you want. Having three guitarists in a live setting may not be entirely necessary, but it works well for this band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I thought Ron was doing the Buckethead parts so I am surprised Ashba got Sorry and Fortus got Madagascar. Obviously Ron does SR and TWATMaybe because Ron already got his own solos on Sorry, Shacklers, Scraped, Catcher...Why are there three guitarists in the band?Why not? There isnt a rule about how many isntruments a band should have. As far as they can work the harmony out to not sound like a mess, its all good. But anyways, to me is pretty clear the differences: DJ Ashba gets the mellow stuff, Richard gets the rhythm and some leads here and there and Bumblefoot gets all the wierd and complex stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I love how the switch during the SCOM solo. The part when both of them play together in harmony is AWESOME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Appetite is full of songs with multiple guitar tracks. Having three guitarists playing these songs really fills out, so they can't miss a note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Why are there three guitarists in the band?Why is there 3 guitarists in Iron Maiden?I am not sure, didn't even know they were still around. To me the three guitarists make all of the songs on CD very muddy.Thats the mix fault, not the guitar players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 There are more than three guitarists on a lot of the CD tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK7 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 pepole maybe dont now that richard help to ron with ron's Rocket Queen Solo: I think what makes this a great solo RQ is ron. he really Makes it clean and better than BH and Slash. And I was addicted to BH's solo, but Ron makes it too good! In general, I think it's GNR second best solo after first NR solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Iron Maiden?I am not sure, didn't even know they were still around. how can you miss them? they're one of the biggest bands in the hard rock world today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Why are there three guitarists in the band?Why is there 3 guitarists in Iron Maiden?I am not sure, didn't even know they were still around. To me the three guitarists make all of the songs on CD very muddy.By that logic the studio version of Welcome to the Jungle is muddy because it has three guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 pepole maybe dont now that richard help to ron with ron's Rocket Queen Solo: I think what makes this a great solo RQ is ron. he really Makes it clean and better than BH and Slash. And I was addicted to BH's solo, but Ron makes it too good! In general, I think it's GNR second best solo after first NR solo.True. The mix here is terrible, tho. I think this is a better one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJsHsJsi4WY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 then tout the band on the merits of their own work/material, not someone else's...Who else played the intro that way? Please show me because I've never seen anyone playing the RQ intro on a fretless guitar. I could be wrong though. Maybe Teddy Zig Zag played it backstage? Could be... I like Rocket Queen better now, mainly because of the intro.The intro kicks ass. I love it more so than the 06 versions - and they were great!I love how the switch during the SCOM solo. The part when both of them play together in harmony is AWESOMEI love that part! Ashba's still doing the first part of the solo and then Ron plays some licks following Ashba's solo. Awesome. Then the way they switch is also amazing - Ron does the wah wah bit and Ashba does the picking/bending (just like the studio version...). An awesome way to use all the 3 guitarists and make something sound fkn' great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGS Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Why are there three guitarists in the band?Maybe cause all the GnR records had 3 guitars on them? (yeah, slash added guitars to songs, so 3)This way we can hear the closest thing to the GnR albums soundBesides, i love how each guitarrist have their own style, they add a lot...Sry, didnt want to offtopic the thread, ill leave u with the best Nightrain version out there... 3.35.. damn Ron, u did it... EDIT: o btw, 4tus work on KOHD is amazing Edited February 15, 2012 by AGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangarcianr Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 what parts richard plays in chinese democracy? the parts he recorded on the album, listening to the multitracks you can barely listen a 3rd guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 what parts richard plays in chinese democracy? the parts he recorded on the album, listening to the multitracks you can barely listen a 3rd guitarRich only played on like four tracks and when he did play it is heard in the left channel. Buckethead, Robin and Paul are usually heard in the left channel. Ron is mostly in the right channel and telling them apart is pretty easy, especially for Ron and Buckethead because they have a ton of solo albums to give you a good idea what their style is. Ron's parts actually made the songs sound more like GN'R and if he had a lot more time, he would have made the songs more familiar. Before the tracks were too mechanical for GN'R. GN'R's sound was sleazy. If Slash and Izzy just used their two guitar tracks you'd get a more generic sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 what parts richard plays in chinese democracy? the parts he recorded on the album, listening to the multitracks you can barely listen a 3rd guitarRich only played on like four tracks and when he did play it is heard in the left channel. Buckethead, Robin and Paul are usually heard in the left channel. Ron is mostly in the right channel and telling them apart is pretty easy, especially for Ron and Buckethead because they have a ton of solo albums to give you a good idea what their style is. Ron's parts actually made the songs sound more like GN'R and if he had a lot more time, he would have made the songs more familiar. Before the tracks were too mechanical for GN'R. GN'R's sound was sleazy. If Slash and Izzy just used their two guitar tracks you'd get a more generic sound.Spot on. But from what I remember Robin is mostly on the right channel... even live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 No lineup has played RQ the way it is played nowoh please You may not agree but don't cupcake the thread. This can be fun.then tout the band on the merits of their own work/material, not someone else's...I typically disagree with every thing moreblack says, but she has a pretty good point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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