Flayer Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) "Flayer to 4tusFeb 26 (2 days ago)Hey Richard!First off, got to congratulate you on the awesome tours you've had with Guns over the last year. I've been following the shows online and I managed to catch front row to Kansas City, it was everything I'd hoped it would be!I found that song demo called Tonto on your website, there's been kind of a buzz about it ever since on the forum. Basically, the MSL guy who claimed to have gotten all these files from Axl's laptop a while back had Tonto listed as one of the tracks on the upcoming next album. No one agrees on whether MSL's story is a truth or a lie, some of the things he claimed have turned out true and some not. But having Tonto in his list and then finding a version of it up on your site doesn't look like coincidence.Understanding that CD II talk is out of your hands, is there anything you can tell me about that track? It's an odd one but I think it actually sounds pretty cool, especially the second half.Thanks, and good luck on the rest of the touring this year!Flayer""4tus to Flayer4:53 PM (2 hours ago)Nope, sorry, that track on my site is from music that i did for a video game a while back. That track wasn't used in the game.It has/had nothing to do with Gn'R""Flayer to 4tusshow details 7:53 PM (5 minutes ago)Cool. Thanks for clearing that up, 4tus." Edited February 29, 2012 by Flayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusPrimeNL Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 allright cool, but now I'm wondering, what videogame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I THINK WE SHOULD ALL E-MAIL HIM THE SAME QUESTION, JUST TO MAKE SURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I THINK WE SHOULD ALL E-MAIL HIM THE SAME QUESTION, JUST TO MAKE SUREHow dare you tell us all what to think or do?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanhart408 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 so how exactly did MSL lie? MSL never said the Tonto he mentioned in his video is the same Tonto Fortus has on his website. It could be a completely different song. I bet you even MSL doesn't even know! He was just reading from the information he had at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You really think he would openly admit it in an email to an anonymous fan if it were a Guns track? Even if MSL lied about Tonto, he told us about Going Down, which showed up on the setlist for Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah, it could have been mentioned in an email between Beta and Fortus (or any number of scenarios), and listed by MSL. We still don't know jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Does Richard even know who MSL is? I've been here over 4 years and I just recently figured out that MSL was the initials to his screen name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Does Richard even know who MSL is? I've been here over 4 years and I just recently figured out that MSL was the initials to his screen name.Lol I dunno about fortus but if Uve been here four years and r just figuring that out Uve been sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGS Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I belive band members and producers/etc will keep things quiet about a new GnR release till its about to happen... they dont want more leaks etc to hurt the next album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Does Richard even know who MSL is? I've been here over 4 years and I just recently figured out that MSL was the initials to his screen name.Lol I dunno about fortus but if Uve been here four years and r just figuring that out Uve been sleeping.Or I don't listen to bullshitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Hand Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I think the list msl had were possible new songs that the band might do live.Because bumble said goin down was an old blues song and I really doubt with the nu GNR sound that they would record that. The same goes for light my fire.So I think tonto was a Richard fortus song brought to guns because it wasn't used in that video game.Who the fuck knows though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBrownstone Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 the funny thing about this is that people actually think fortus would divulge GNR info. to a nobody on the internet...especially given the tight lips/gag order/whatever you wanna call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi your illusion Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) I'm with Hitman here, I don't think this proves that MSL lied about anything. His credentials shouldn't really be questioned at this point. You should probably change the title under the thread, it's shitty to play fast and loose with someones reputation. Edited February 29, 2012 by uzi your illusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Fortusleak starts now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 the song was shit anyway. good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 the song was shit anyway. good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBrownstone Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 the funny thing about this is that people actually think fortus would divulge GNR info. to a nobody on the internet...especially given the tight lips/gag order/whatever you wanna call it.Gag order?Proof pleaseNo, no, I don't mean there is one, that's why I said tight lips/whatever you want to call it, just to refer to the hush hush nature of this band, and the seemingly tightly guarded flow of information that we've seen over the past 15 or so years. This in mind, it's a little hard for me to believe that one of the band members is just gonna tell some random kid online something that we've all been wondering for a while. I know it's something he might know about, because the song tonto was on his website, I get that, but he's not just gonna divulge GNR info like that to anybody, he knows better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Hahaha, this is funny. If it's not GnR material, there wouldn't be a GnR gag order on it regardless of whether or not said gag exists. I'll concede though that the subtitle of the thread should be removed, it's not valid to the facts.Anyway, let's do a little google research.Oh, what did we find?http://www.richardfortusonline.com/listen800.htm"Untitled Document""2 mp3s from an upcoming activision video game (hostedon jellfish.com)4 more mp3s from those sessionsdead man mix 2robert johnson mix 1tonto electro mix 3western mix 1"Are you still gonna insist that Fortus lied to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Guys..Just...WAKE THE FUCK UP ?Why would Fortus have the demo of an yet unreleased Guns n' Roses songs on his website ?That's right.He wouldn't.Case solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wreckless Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 MSL's list:AtlasCuban SkiesGoin' DownJackie ChanLight My FireMonstrositySilk WormsSoul MonsterThe GeneralThymeTonto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Cooper Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Did he really need to be emailed about it? Anyone who can think for themselves knows MSl is full of shit and knows NOTHiNG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukepowell1988 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 maybe tonto would have been used as a jam to replace james bond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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