WhazUp Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I agree with Deep Purple and The Yardbirds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Dave Mustaine with Metallica.........he sucks so no.But Marty friedman with Megadeth If you're saying Marty was 'more important' than Mustaine then I disagree vastly. Friedman is a superb lead player but his impact was awesome leads and a handful of co-written tracks on five albums, three classics and two duds imo. Deth has and always will be 95% Dave compositions including blazing leadwork playing off technical guitarists, Marty's absence hasn't left the band unhinged or lacking after his departure and the albums before Rust in Peace certainly weren't lacking either, it's all down to the strength of Mustaine's songcrafting and venomous visions. Edited April 7, 2012 by RandallFlagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Dave Mustaine with Metallica.........he sucks so no.But Marty friedman with Megadeth If you're saying Marty was 'more important' than Mustaine then I disagree vastly. Friedman is a superb lead player but his impact was awesome leads and a handful of co-written tracks on five albums, three classics and two duds imo. Deth has and always will be 95% Dave compositions including blazing leadwork playing off technical guitarists, Marty's absence hasn't left the band unhinged or lacking after his departure and the albums before Rust in Peace certainly weren't lacking either, it's all down to the strength of Mustaine's songcrafting and venomous visions.as I said before I only said that because he said Dave and Metallica witch is just wrong (the sound was allready there when he joined the band).And because I like Marty and thinks Dave is an asshole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 If you're saying Marty was 'more important' than Mustaine then I disagree vastly. Friedman is a superb lead player but his impact was awesome leads and a handful of co-written tracks on five albums, three classics and two duds imo. Deth has and always will be 95% Dave compositions including blazing leadwork playing off technical guitarists, Marty's absence hasn't left the band unhinged or lacking after his departure and the albums before Rust in Peace certainly weren't lacking either, it's all down to the strength of Mustaine's songcrafting and venomous visions.The weird thing is that some of Marty's solo stuff is loads heavier/meaner than what Megadeth were doing towards the end of his time with the band. Heavier than what they've done since he left, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Star Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) PraxisCornbugsColonel Claypool's Bucket Of Bernie Brains (Though this could be debated)Deli CreepsAll have had Buckethead at one point in the band or at all points. Edited April 8, 2012 by Death Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 in a Les Claypool project, Les Claypool is the star no matter who else is in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrandyk Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Dave Mustaine with Metallica.........he sucks so no.But Marty friedman with Megadeth If you're saying Marty was 'more important' than Mustaine then I disagree vastly. Friedman is a superb lead player but his impact was awesome leads and a handful of co-written tracks on five albums, three classics and two duds imo. Deth has and always will be 95% Dave compositions including blazing leadwork playing off technical guitarists, Marty's absence hasn't left the band unhinged or lacking after his departure and the albums before Rust in Peace certainly weren't lacking either, it's all down to the strength of Mustaine's songcrafting and venomous visions.as I said before I only said that because he said Dave and Metallica witch is just wrong (the sound was allready there when he joined the band).They didn't not have their sound yet when Dave joined, all they had was a version of Hit the Lights that lacked any bite. They would have never gotten off the ground without Dave. Their material went way downhill once the stuff he wrote ran out, and then it became near unlistenable once Cliff died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 They didn't not have their sound yet when Dave joined, all they had was a version of Hit the Lights that lacked any bite. They would have never gotten off the ground without Dave. Their material went way downhill once the stuff he wrote ran out, and then it became near unlistenable once Cliff died.no. Dave has said that he wanted to be in Metallica because it was the heaviest band he ever heard and wanted to be apart of it.The only good song from Kill 'em All that Dave has writing credit on is The Four Horsemen and he only has writing credits on two songs from Ride the Lightning.And that they would never gotten of the ground without Dave? Stupid. all that he did was trying to play as fast as he could and did it badly. They could have gotten someone much better. I'm glad they kicked him out but they still could have taken someone better then Kirk afterward.... but he's still better then Dave and Kirk's not an asshole or a junkie.yeah he was important he helped writing some of the worst songs by old Metallica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsgnr Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 In this band the guitar players are way more important than the vocals! CHeck them out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 They didn't not have their sound yet when Dave joined, all they had was a version of Hit the Lights that lacked any bite. They would have never gotten off the ground without Dave. Their material went way downhill once the stuff he wrote ran out, and then it became near unlistenable once Cliff died.no. Dave has said that he wanted to be in Metallica because it was the heaviest band he ever heard and wanted to be apart of it.The only good song from Kill 'em All that Dave has writing credit on is The Four Horsemen and he only has writing credits on two songs from Ride the Lightning.And that they would never gotten of the ground without Dave? Stupid. all that he did was trying to play as fast as he could and did it badly. They could have gotten someone much better. I'm glad they kicked him out but they still could have taken someone better then Kirk afterward.... but he's still better then Dave and Kirk's not an asshole or a junkie.yeah he was important he helped writing some of the worst songs by old Metallica Dave's role in early Metallica was bringing fans (and the girls) to the show and building the following. Lars and Dave have talked about this in the book and in interviews. Once they had enough songs and got tired of him, they kicked him to the curb and found someone that was way more easygoing but could deliver hard and fast. Hetfield didn't really have much in the way of people skills but once Dave was out and they were getting repeat business, he broke out of his shell (although the drinking played a big part in that). I don't care what people say about St Anger, they wound up making Some Kind of Monster, which blows away any behind the scenes "making of". Fuck Let It Be, this is all the stuff that should've been in that movie. I'd actually like to see Dave write songs with Metallica before they all call it a day. Can't do any worse than Lou Reed at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 but what good is Some Kind of Monster, if the album that came from it, you instantly wish you hadnt heard...Its like a lot of drama and strain for very little return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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