Coma16 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 So with the first show of this leg I think it would make for good conversation to discuss what you want to see (or not). The 2 Russia shows could easily be a warm-up before they really get into it the following week so let's not go crazy after the first show. Lets be somewhat realistic as well Here are a few of mine:- new solo spots for each band member- not all solo spots have to be played each night (even if that makes the concert shorter so be it)- not more than 1 hour between the opening band and GNR. I'm fine with the show starting at midnight but it is really the wait in between that kills people- at least one new unreleased song (more than 1 will be a bonus)- some more Illusions (Yesterdays, DTJ, RNDTH)- removal of some the classics such as RQ, KOHD, SCOM, ISE, NR (not likely gonna happen but do they really need to be played every night)- I'm sick of PC (entirely) and would like another song to close the show. However, can PC fit in anywhere else? Perhaps the last song of the regular set but then many peeps might take of thinking that the show is overWhat do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJones90 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Well, it's difficult to alter the usual setlist in my opinion when it includes so many classics that you simply can't drop. Even if you are tired of something like Rocket Queen I and many others would be so disappointed to attend a Guns N Roses gig and not hear Rocket Queen. Can't drop stuff like that!Personally, i'd drop Street of Dreams & Shackler's Revenge. Maybe Madagascar too. They're good, but i'd much prefer to hear something else. And i think i'd drop Whole Lotta Rosie & Riff Raff. Again, awesome songs, but i'd like to hear something different because they've been played quite a lot. Apart from those, i really hope they play the rest of the usual stuff.I went to the London gig in 2010 and they've played some other stuff since then so personally i'm really looking forward to Civil War, Estranged, and hopefully You're Crazy too (but i doubt that tbh in a massive arena gig like that)Obviously would like to hear some brand new stuff. But i'd still love it if they played something like Anything Goes, Think About You, Out Ta Get Me. Or maybe even Move to the City, Down on the Farm or something Edited May 9, 2012 by OJones90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 to drop Street of Dreams and Shacklers is quite idiotic.. for the people that haven't listened to Chinese or maybe just gave it a simple run without giving it a chance, hearing those songs live will surely get some excitement for the album started.. SOD works perfectly live like a classic Guns song and Shacklers is just too crazy live to not take notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Well, it's difficult to alter the usual setlist in my opinion when it includes so many classics that you simply can't drop. Even if you are tired of something like Rocket Queen I and many others would be so disappointed to attend a Guns N Roses gig and not hear Rocket Queen. Can't drop stuff like that!I can't agree with this statement (in regards that some can't be dropped). Also, RQ was dropped for a while so it doesn't mean that they won't make a comback on the next leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MishoGunsNRoses Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 New stuff and some UYI, Hair of a Dog and Crash Diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneisKing1389 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Your "realistic" wish list is entirely too unrealistic.The wish list should be this short:1. Change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic56 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 God don't drop Shackler's , it's amazing live, it's hard to know where they could fit new songs in. A festival crowd will want the classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Your "realistic" wish list is entirely too unrealistic.The wish list should be this short:1. ChangeWell a wish-list doesn't imply that I won't be happy unless each and every wish was made. For all of that to happen is unrealistic but can you point out which one(s) you think are on a case-by-case basis?#whybehereifurnegativeGod don't drop Shackler's , it's amazing live, it's hard to know where they could fit new songs in. A festival crowd will want the classics.Agreed. I was actually shocked how good the song was after seeing it live in 2010. It is even better now BBF on vocals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 New songs and the new OMG. New solos would be a welcome surprise too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 One new song.Should be doable right ? I mean, they were playing Chinese Democracy songs 7 years before its release so if they really want to release the next album soon, why couldn't they play anything off of it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmygod Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 More high fives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 One new song.Should be doable right ? I mean, they were playing Chinese Democracy songs 7 years before its release so if they really want to release the next album soon, why couldn't they play anything off of it ?As someone else stated in another thread, I think they want to avoid playing anything new without a actual release date set. Hopefully that's in place on the back end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 New song or two. More high fives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 More variation in setlists from show to show. Something that hasn't been played in a while, or ideally, ever.But even if they don't make any changes, but continue to churn out 3 h great shows with 20+ songs each night spanning the whole catalogue, I'll be more than happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJones90 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 to drop Street of Dreams and Shacklers is quite idiotic.. for the people that haven't listened to Chinese or maybe just gave it a simple run without giving it a chance, hearing those songs live will surely get some excitement for the album started.. SOD works perfectly live like a classic Guns song and Shacklers is just too crazy live to not take notice I can't agree with this statement (in regards that some can't be dropped). Also, RQ was dropped for a while so it doesn't mean that they won't make a comback on the next leg.God don't drop Shackler's , it's amazing live, it's hard to know where they could fit new songs in. A festival crowd will want the classics.Agreed. I was actually shocked how good the song was after seeing it live in 2010. It is even better now BBF on vocals Meh. I loved it in London 2010 too. BUT, if Axl's vocals are like they were for the last tour with no rasp, then i don't want to hear that or Street of Dreams. If his voice is more like 2010, then yes, i'd want to hear those 2 songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 - No one throwing shit on Axl causing him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auad Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 i just want some soundboards with real good quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 - No one throwing shit on Axl causing him to leave.I guess they should have left Ireland till the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangarcianr Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 it's simple- solos should stay, if they want to change them like dizzy and ashba did,it's OK- MORE CHINESE SONGS- One stream- at least one song,or old/new like yesterdays- an official dvd for gods sakeenough with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneisKing1389 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Well a wish-list doesn't imply that I won't be happy unless each and every wish was made. For all of that to happen is unrealistic but can you point out which one(s) you think are on a case-by-case basis?Yes.- not all solo spots have to be played each night (even if that makes the concert shorter so be it)- not more than 1 hour between the opening band and GNR. I'm fine with the show starting at midnight but it is really the wait in between that kills people- some more Illusions (Yesterdays, DTJ, RNDTH)- removal of some the classics such as RQ, KOHD, SCOM, ISE, NR (not likely gonna happen but do they really need to be played every night)- I'm sick of PC (entirely) and would like another song to close the show. However, can PC fit in anywhere else? Perhaps the last song of the regular set but then many peeps might take of thinking that the show is overHe loves his breaks. The solo spots will continue. They could shorten Dizzy's down to nothing, but that's about it.If anything, we'll have it happen exactly like it did this past one. Band was on relatively early during the early shows, but after a handful, they were back to 3 hour waits between.He's added a lot of UYI stuff. It's pretty unrealistic to expect RNDTH or DTJ. He just added full Don't Cry, Estranged, and Civil War. Rehearsing OMG and such proves that there's at least something else he wants added.Those are staples. They've been played for 20+ years. I've love to see Mr. Brownstone dropped, but he'll never drop RQ, KOHD, SCOM, ISE, or NR. Crowd pleasers, staples, and iconic.Paradise City is the closer.That's not being negative. That's being logical.If anything, I'd love for him to drop Mr. Brownstone, Sorry, the ACDC covers, and the 31 instrumental jams scheduled, but I don't see that happening either. I can see him dropping Sorry, This I Love, and maybe a cover in favor of a new song, but who knows? Edited May 9, 2012 by DaneisKing1389 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJones90 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 He loves his breaks. The solo spots will continue. They could shorten Dizzy's down to nothing, but that's about it.If anything, we'll have it happen exactly like it did this past one. Band was on relatively early during the early shows, but after a handful, they were back to 3 hour waits between.He's added a lot of UYI stuff. It's pretty unrealistic to expect RNDTH or DTJ. He just added full Don't Cry, Estranged, and Civil War. Rehearsing OMG and such proves that there's at least something else he wants added.Those are staples. They've been played for 20+ years. I've love to see Mr. Brownstone dropped, but he'll never drop RQ, KOHD, SCOM, ISE, or NR. Crowd pleasers, staples, and iconic.Paradise City is the closer.That's not being negative. That's being logical.If anything, I'd love for him to drop Mr. Brownstone, Sorry, the ACDC covers, and the 31 instrumental jams scheduled, but I don't see that happening either. I can see him dropping Sorry, This I Love, and maybe a cover in favor of a new song, but who knows?I like Sorry. But it doesn't sound as good with his vocals from the last tour. I definitely wouldn't drop This I Love and i doubt it will get dropped, it's a brilliant song and up there with my favourite Gnr tracks. It's much better than most of the album along with Better and Chinese Democracy.Scraped would be cool to hear again with 2010 vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneisKing1389 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I like Sorry. But it doesn't sound as good with his vocals from the last tour. I definitely wouldn't drop This I Love and i doubt it will get dropped, it's a brilliant song and up there with my favourite Gnr tracks. It's much better than most of the album along with Better and Chinese Democracy.Scraped would be cool to hear again with 2010 vocals.Don't get me wrong. I love This I Love and I count Robin's solo on that as one of the greatest in GN'R history. If it wasn't just for the last tour and he keeps Estranged on the list, I can't see him keeping This I Love. It's the worst of Axl's piano trio. It's certainly not bad, though. It's phenomenal on the album, but I don't think he'll keep all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 it's simple- solos should stay, if they want to change them like dizzy and ashba did,it's OK- MORE CHINESE SONGS- One stream- at least one song,or old/new like yesterdays- an official dvd for gods sakeenough with thatWe are already getting 6-7 Chinese songs per show. I wouldn't say we need more Chinese, but rather introduce dropped CD tracks back into the rotation of the 6-7 that are played per show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auad Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 He loves his breaks. The solo spots will continue. They could shorten Dizzy's down to nothing, but that's about it.If anything, we'll have it happen exactly like it did this past one. Band was on relatively early during the early shows, but after a handful, they were back to 3 hour waits between.He's added a lot of UYI stuff. It's pretty unrealistic to expect RNDTH or DTJ. He just added full Don't Cry, Estranged, and Civil War. Rehearsing OMG and such proves that there's at least something else he wants added.Those are staples. They've been played for 20+ years. I've love to see Mr. Brownstone dropped, but he'll never drop RQ, KOHD, SCOM, ISE, or NR. Crowd pleasers, staples, and iconic.Paradise City is the closer.That's not being negative. That's being logical.If anything, I'd love for him to drop Mr. Brownstone, Sorry, the ACDC covers, and the 31 instrumental jams scheduled, but I don't see that happening either. I can see him dropping Sorry, This I Love, and maybe a cover in favor of a new song, but who knows?I like Sorry. But it doesn't sound as good with his vocals from the last tour. I definitely wouldn't drop This I Love and i doubt it will get dropped, it's a brilliant song and up there with my favourite Gnr tracks. It's much better than most of the album along with Better and Chinese Democracy.Scraped would be cool to hear again with 2010 vocals.super funny..."with 2010 vocals"we're in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wight gunner Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 He loves his breaks. The solo spots will continue. They could shorten Dizzy's down to nothing, but that's about it.If anything, we'll have it happen exactly like it did this past one. Band was on relatively early during the early shows, but after a handful, they were back to 3 hour waits between.He's added a lot of UYI stuff. It's pretty unrealistic to expect RNDTH or DTJ. He just added full Don't Cry, Estranged, and Civil War. Rehearsing OMG and such proves that there's at least something else he wants added.Those are staples. They've been played for 20+ years. I've love to see Mr. Brownstone dropped, but he'll never drop RQ, KOHD, SCOM, ISE, or NR. Crowd pleasers, staples, and iconic.Paradise City is the closer.That's not being negative. That's being logical.If anything, I'd love for him to drop Mr. Brownstone, Sorry, the ACDC covers, and the 31 instrumental jams scheduled, but I don't see that happening either. I can see him dropping Sorry, This I Love, and maybe a cover in favor of a new song, but who knows?I like Sorry. But it doesn't sound as good with his vocals from the last tour. I definitely wouldn't drop This I Love and i doubt it will get dropped, it's a brilliant song and up there with my favourite Gnr tracks. It's much better than most of the album along with Better and Chinese Democracy.Scraped would be cool to hear again with 2010 vocals.I'm glad that nobody has said Coma, its an epic song but without a doubt, it would F**k Axl's voice. You have to realise that the songs are done in an order to get a balance into the act and enable a good long show. Sadly I can't afford to go, but I hope that the band have a blast, 'cos when they do its great for everybody. Other than that, if a "chucker" is in the audience, I hope those around them cause a scene and get 'em chucked out. Notice how good the US shows were without these cocks spoiling it for everybody.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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