LandOla Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Strange ... I thought there was an interview with (or a letter from?!?) Axl in which he once stated that a certain guitarist once said that line to him while working on new material after the UYI world tour. I don't take records of everything I read, but since this forum is my primary source for GN'R news, I'm pretty sure that I've read that somewhere on this board here. And no, it wasn't "I've heard from someone who knows someone who ...", it was an Axl statement, as far as I recall. But oh well ... I don't have the time to go all Sherlock Holmes on this one ... There you go, from Axl's "homework essay" ie Dexter chat number 6.And I’m not talking change of styles or sounds etc. A lot of people bought that crap and me having gone in other directions seems to many to have verified that. Then you have the mind twisting equally as true horseshit in Slash’s book but I have the rehearsal tapes. There’s nothing but Slash based blues rock and he stopped it to both go solo and try to completely take over Guns. I read all this if Axl would’ve put words and melodies on it could’ve… That was denied and I didn’t walk till several months after having 3 to 4 hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off. Edited May 15, 2012 by LandOla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Here is the quote from when Axl was on the forums (found in the Axl Chats #3):Axl: I tried sending this ages ago but apparently it never went through. It was a direct response but now fits others questions on the same subject.The whole whose it about bit w/songs doesn't work for me that much as in whether a line or whatever was inspired by a particular person or situation doesn't mean that in the end that's what or who the song's about.I could be working with clay and think of someone or something and somehow that could inspire me to take the work in a different direction at the moment but in the end it could just be a nice vase.I often wonder where the people who inspired so many songs are now and why it's only important with some songs such as Layla as opposed to others. I'm guessin' a fair # of beautiful love songs or otherwise were inspired by some that the artists and public might consider now or in hindsight to be the opposite of how they are depicted or allegedly represented.With Sorry.. like a lot of the material is drawn from a lot of different situations. The main focus on the boards w/the track seems to be either Slash or "the fans" (and the collective of "the fans" is another thing that doesn't work for me) and is much too restrictive or narrow and limits what I feel I intended.For me it's for anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense and that many of those as well as the public don't know who to believe.Also where possible I'd like to give people the opportunity to get what they can from the material for a while before clouding that with my inspirations. Of course that's not always avoidable.There we go. So perhaps the lines we're thinking of are indeed inspired by actions or Slash in general, but we'll honestly never know for 100% certainty.Does anyone else think that Axl writes in cryptic?? I can never understand what he says, he makes a long statement that you read over & over & still can't decipher I got that he wrote it about different people, including some fans that want him to be a certain way. It's just a song that addresses that he's his own man, and no matter what people say about him or try to manipulate the situation into, he's not going to play. It's partly about Slash. He's not denying it. But on a songwriting angle, there's only so much shit you're going to write about your own life. I'm sure there are times he'd rather listen to someone talk about their experiences than talk about his own life. He understands as a music fan, people are going to want to know what a song's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgunblues1978 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I always though the "I'll kick your ass like I said that I would" was a reference to the Get In The Ring rant ("Get in the ring motherfucker, and I'll kick your bitchy little ass, punk") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-7U2VvRCw3M The very first few seconds Edited May 15, 2012 by rock4eva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1447 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-7U2VvRCw3M The very first few seconds He sounded like he was being sarcasticAlso i think its probably about slash, but also the media/managment/promoters.Prostitute was probably the main one about slash. Edited May 15, 2012 by Tom1447 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'm sorry for you not sorry for me is better than saying ROT IN HELL i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Sure it's been mentioned by now, but I'm pretty sure Slash once told Axl to just shut up and sing. I can't remember if it was from Slash's book or Duff's, or either, but I recall it...if he quotes it in a song all these years later it's probably something that really pissed him off, explaining why he'd sing it the way he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOla Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Sure it's been mentioned by now, but I'm pretty sure Slash once told Axl to just shut up and sing. I can't remember if it was from Slash's book or Duff's, or either, but I recall it...if he quotes it in a song all these years later it's probably something that really pissed him off, explaining why he'd sing it the way he does.There you go, from Axl's "homework essay" ie Dexter chat number 6.And I’m not talking change of styles or sounds etc. A lot of people bought that crap and me having gone in other directions seems to many to have verified that. Then you have the mind twisting equally as true horseshit in Slash’s book but I have the rehearsal tapes. There’s nothing but Slash based blues rock and he stopped it to both go solo and try to completely take over Guns. I read all this if Axl would’ve put words and melodies on it could’ve… That was denied and I didn’t walk till several months after having 3 to 4 hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The "shut up and sing" is prob. for Slash, but maybe it's about Merck & Goldstein. Feel free to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazrui Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-7U2VvRCw3M The very first few seconds He sounded like he was being sarcasticAlso i think its probably about slash, but also the media/managment/promoters.Prostitute was probably the main one about slash. Edited May 15, 2012 by tomazrui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRose14 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Here is the quote from when Axl was on the forums (found in the Axl Chats #3):Axl: I tried sending this ages ago but apparently it never went through. It was a direct response but now fits others questions on the same subject.The whole whose it about bit w/songs doesn't work for me that much as in whether a line or whatever was inspired by a particular person or situation doesn't mean that in the end that's what or who the song's about.I could be working with clay and think of someone or something and somehow that could inspire me to take the work in a different direction at the moment but in the end it could just be a nice vase.I often wonder where the people who inspired so many songs are now and why it's only important with some songs such as Layla as opposed to others. I'm guessin' a fair # of beautiful love songs or otherwise were inspired by some that the artists and public might consider now or in hindsight to be the opposite of how they are depicted or allegedly represented.With Sorry.. like a lot of the material is drawn from a lot of different situations. The main focus on the boards w/the track seems to be either Slash or "the fans" (and the collective of "the fans" is another thing that doesn't work for me) and is much too restrictive or narrow and limits what I feel I intended.For me it's for anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense and that many of those as well as the public don't know who to believe.Also where possible I'd like to give people the opportunity to get what they can from the material for a while before clouding that with my inspirations. Of course that's not always avoidable.There we go. So perhaps the lines we're thinking of are indeed inspired by actions or Slash in general, but we'll honestly never know for 100% certainty.Does anyone else think that Axl writes in cryptic?? I can never understand what he says, he makes a long statement that you read over & over & still can't decipher yea..he drags em out til it gets too hard to readf, rather than simplify his answers. Then again, due to legalities, he clearly has no other choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyzero Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 "(Why can't you just) Shut Up and Sing" is what Matt Sorum said to or near Axl during the UYI tour during a riot or a time when he walked off stage and Matt became frustrated because he just wanted to play music and not deal with all the drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I got laughed at once when I suggested Prostitute could concern Axl's hurt about Slash running his mouth off for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shades Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) There we go. So perhaps the lines we're thinking of are indeed inspired by actions or Slash in general, but we'll honestly never know for 100% certainty.I'm sayin it was about all the rest of the members that abandoned shipone of the greatest power ballads ever recorded"the difference is nobody cares about you" Edited May 15, 2012 by shades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I agree with most other posters. The parts of "sorry" that are about slash are obvious, but prostitute is the main one about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Here is the quote from when Axl was on the forums (found in the Axl Chats #3):Axl: I tried sending this ages ago but apparently it never went through. It was a direct response but now fits others questions on the same subject.The whole whose it about bit w/songs doesn't work for me that much as in whether a line or whatever was inspired by a particular person or situation doesn't mean that in the end that's what or who the song's about.I could be working with clay and think of someone or something and somehow that could inspire me to take the work in a different direction at the moment but in the end it could just be a nice vase.I often wonder where the people who inspired so many songs are now and why it's only important with some songs such as Layla as opposed to others. I'm guessin' a fair # of beautiful love songs or otherwise were inspired by some that the artists and public might consider now or in hindsight to be the opposite of how they are depicted or allegedly represented.With Sorry.. like a lot of the material is drawn from a lot of different situations. The main focus on the boards w/the track seems to be either Slash or "the fans" (and the collective of "the fans" is another thing that doesn't work for me) and is much too restrictive or narrow and limits what I feel I intended.For me it's for anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense and that many of those as well as the public don't know who to believe.Also where possible I'd like to give people the opportunity to get what they can from the material for a while before clouding that with my inspirations. Of course that's not always avoidable.There we go. So perhaps the lines we're thinking of are indeed inspired by actions or Slash in general, but we'll honestly never know for 100% certainty.Does anyone else think that Axl writes in cryptic?? I can never understand what he says, he makes a long statement that you read over & over & still can't decipher yea..he drags em out til it gets too hard to readf, rather than simplify his answers. Then again, due to legalities, he clearly has no other choiceWhat legalities? He's just answering it as the songwriter, he's not as blatant as he used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 are you sure the slash incident you guys are talking about the one where slash said something like "our singers taking a break" and from behind the stage axl heard something differently and called him out for it on stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 are you sure the slash incident you guys are talking about the one where slash said something like "our singers taking a break" and from behind the stage axl heard something differently and called him out for it on stage?No that was different. Axl cut his hand open on the mic stand and went back-stage to get it wrapped up. Slash came up and tried to explain to the audience what was going on and Axl thought he heard Slash say something about a "costume change" and got pissed off at him.Funny vid/audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN'R Lies Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 You know where to put your..You know where to put your [what?]That's something that's always been a head scratcherAny ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Universal_Sigh Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Really?You know where to put your - "shut up and sing"You know where to put the quote, basically. h'es basically saying "you can stick your bullshit comments up your ass Slash"Comprendes mi amigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 are you sure the slash incident you guys are talking about the one where slash said something like "our singers taking a break" and from behind the stage axl heard something differently and called him out for it on stage?No that was different. Axl cut his hand open on the mic stand and went back-stage to get it wrapped up. Slash came up and tried to explain to the audience what was going on and Axl thought he heard Slash say something about a "costume change" and got pissed off at him.Funny vid/audio. And I think it was one of the Trunk interviews where he talked about this and said that he apologized instantly when he found out he was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Prostitute was probably the main one about slash."What would you say if I told you that I'm to blame.""Where would you go if I told you I loved you, and then walked away."Yup ... I can totally picture Axl thinking about Slash when he wrote those lyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I think Sorry is one of Axl's greatest lyrical performances. I do not believe it was directed at one person, each jab seemed to be shot at several people. Producers, ex girlfriends, ex band members. Truth is the truths hurts might be directed at Slash though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) are you sure the slash incident you guys are talking about the one where slash said something like "our singers taking a break" and from behind the stage axl heard something differently and called him out for it on stage?No that was different. Axl cut his hand open on the mic stand and went back-stage to get it wrapped up. Slash came up and tried to explain to the audience what was going on and Axl thought he heard Slash say something about a "costume change" and got pissed off at him.Funny vid/audio. And I think it was one of the Trunk interviews where he talked about this and said that he apologized instantly when he found out he was wrong.Yes at 11 seconds he said "clothing change, just be patient" - Axl heard it from backstage. Seemed a rather minute thing to come out & abuse Slash for but then Axl doesn't do things by halves. There is/was a clip on youtube of the incident where Axl's hand was cut & he wrapped around something large to finish the song before going off to have it attended to. Might still be on there. Edited May 17, 2012 by rock4eva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 This I Love is about Slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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