Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 to his completely unhappy demeanor on stage, to what looks to be tears running down his face recently. I kind of get your point but this is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stro Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Overloaded would be awesome as his solo spot. I think a lot of his songs are too hard to both sing and play at the same time, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I heard Glad To Be Here in Liverpool on Sunday night. It was quite a surprise but I enjoyed it.The song is very tongue in cheek. If I could pick another song for BBF to play I would pick Dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) It's a fun song. It's by no means on his worst list, but there are much better ones too. I like it though. Does he sing on it live and have the whole band playing? Edited May 22, 2012 by Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Does he sing on it live and have the whole band playing?If I'm not mistaken I do believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 He does borrow a lot from Mr. Bungle. Especially the early solos he did. I asked him if he ever listened to Elliott Smith, he said no. Could see the similarities though.I wouldn't call it generic, complex would be a better word.It's not that it's complex, it's really original and inventive as well. Some people don't even know what original guitar playing/songwriting is, so they find an excuse to complain - they talk about him being generic, can't play with feeling, can't write good songs/solos, etc. They are factually wrong, that's not even a discussion. Some people can't get it when someone is truly original, so they come here asking if he's too generic to be in Guns. Here we have one of the best guitarists alive and praised by so many of the greats technique/songwriting/vocally/inventive(ness?) wise and all they do is complaing about his fkn' tone. I mean, really?I'd read that other thread about him being too nice and generic for Guns, think that it's stupid, laugh at it and in the end ignore it. Seriously, they have no fkn' idea of where they are coming from. That's bullshit, not personal opinion and they want to think that way, so why should I bother proving them how they are wrong? Heck, they probably have never heard a solo with so many inovative techniques and playing like Shackler's but they have no idea. In their minds that's mindless shredding, but it's a brilliant solo, like it or not. People like Guthrie Govan (arguably the best guitarist in the world - and he even says that Ron's the best, the true genius - as far as I know) or Satriani (And tons of other amazing musicians) have their minds blown away by Ron in a constant basis, think that his work is brilliant and praise him like nobody else, but the average listener will call it "mindless shredding". Can I blame them? In a way not, because it is not what they use to listen. But claiming that his work is generic and that he ain't authentic in any way is plain bullshit, simply put.Have you seen videos of Ron and Guthrie together? Insane. GN'R fans are more use to blues stuff as oppose to something more original. A fretless guitar is very foreign, Buckethead's shredding is more familiar. I don't get why shredding equals no feeling to some people, can their minds not process the feeling in those notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) There are inventive blues songs even nowadays. Bumblefoot's Raygun and I Cant Play The Blues fit that category perfectly. Fact is that most people got used to Clapton-like bluesy playing and are led to believe that playing slow and long bends is what feeling is about. Feeling is all about being honest, being himself and feeling exactly you are playing, be it a standart blues song or an aggressive death metal song. If it makes you angry, that is a feeling. I believe that playing the stuff that comes in your head while being true to yourself without pratically any limits is the pinnacle of soulful playing. After all this is what feeling is about and ignorant people tend to bash others for being souless - the lack of argument is apparent in those cases. Edited May 22, 2012 by Bruno Poeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It's a fun song. Not that I'd put it on myself but I don't mind hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 There are inventive blues songs even nowadays. Bumblefoot's Raygun and I Cant Play The Blues fit that category perfectly. Fact is that most people got used to Clapton-like bluesy playing abd are led to believe that playing slow and long bends is what feeling is about. Feeling is all about being honest, being himself and feeling exactly you are playing, be it a standart blues song or an aggressive death metal song. I believe that playing the stuff that comes in your head while being true to yourself without pratically any limits is the pinnacle of soulful playing. After all this is what feeling is about and ignorant people tend to bash others for being souless - the lack of argument is apparent in those cases.I am guessing that people are so use to fake emotions they automatically believe that long bends = emotion. There's more emotion in Johnny Ramone's power chord than most of Slash's work today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzgold Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 That song kicks major ass. Regarding the GNR thing, 2 points: First of all, IF he wanted to sing about how unhappy he is, he would have every right to do so. Freedom of speech, honesty, artists singing from the heart, stuff like this is what we want for fucks sake.Second of all, Ron is human being and our lives are complex. GNR is not his life, just a part of it - he got tons of stuff going on. To me it sounds like a song about his whole way as an artist - not about the GNR time. How is "I haven't had a good night sleep since 1995" about GNR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 He had nightmares about being in Guns since 1995. In fact he only joined the band because he lost a bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I am guessing that people are so use to fake emotions they automatically believe that long bends = emotion. I think it's less to do with not getting what he's trying to do and more to do with the fact that this particular song is just shite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinaski Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I am guessing that people are so use to fake emotions they automatically believe that long bends = emotion. With complimentary orgasm faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I've listened to some of his solo stuff before and I can't get into it. But it's something different that is not the Pink Panther and it's always good to change things up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just in case someone missed because its buried in the Glasgow thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just in case someone missed because its buried in the Glasgow thread: Fitting for the UK but I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) Love BBF's discography but not fond of this song either...He should have gone with Guitars Still Suck IMHO but that would have made it the hardest song of the whole night for the band to play so maybe he didn't want the other guys ( especially Frank, insane drum parts on Guitars Still Suck ) to hate him haha Edited May 26, 2012 by The Glow Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 The song is about GN'R, so it fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Love BBF's discography but not fond of this song either...He should have gone with Guitars Still Suck IMHO but that would have made it the hardest song of the whole night for the band to play so maybe he didn't want the other guys ( especially Frank, insane drum parts on Guitars Still Suck ) to hate him hahaYeah, maybe he could have picked a better one - but if I'm honest, I'm just genuinely stoked he's playing at least one of his originals!Imagine if he busted out something like Turn Around.... with that fucking SMOKING outro solo! It's gotta be one of my all time favourite solos to listen to, from any guitarist. EDIT: For the lazy, it starts around 2:50.... but you should listen to the whole song anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinaski Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yeah, maybe he could have picked a better one - but if I'm honest, I'm just genuinely stoked he's playing at least one of his originals!Imagine if he busted out something like Turn Around.... with that fucking SMOKING outro solo! It's gotta be one of my all time favourite solos to listen to, from any guitarist. EDIT: For the lazy, it starts around 2:50.... but you should listen to the whole song anyway.Agreed. Normal is a really enjoyable record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I don't think I saw Ashba playing with the band on Ron's solo. Wonder why..Yeah, maybe he could have picked a better one - but if I'm honest, I'm just genuinely stoked he's playing at least one of his originals!Imagine if he busted out something like Turn Around.... with that fucking SMOKING outro solo! It's gotta be one of my all time favourite solos to listen to, from any guitarist. EDIT: For the lazy, it starts around 2:50.... but you should listen to the whole song anyway.Agreed. Normal is a really enjoyable record.Indeed, Turn Around is amazing. So is the other suggestions here like Dash and Breaking. Imagine that with Ron playing the accoustic and changing to the electric guitar like he did with If The World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Broskirose Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yeah, that would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Nice to see somebody finally filmed this one, lol. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I've only heard it once, but I'll give it another go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Breaking, Turn Around and Dash would be great. The solo spots are to showcase the band members talent and Ron is not just a great guitarist, he is also a great singer and songwriter.Glad to Be Here is perfect for the U.K. Be nice if they hit Cardiff. Nobody pays attention to the Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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