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Expecting Kurt Cobain to get appreciation from mainstream rock fans is always gonna end up badly. It either drags Cobains music into a world that it is not from or for to be misrepresented or it just flat out will not be appreciated or understood. Cobains in a weird little space, he doesn't have the comfort of the sort of integrity that he aspired to, at least for a time, that you find in artists like Mark E Smith or Thurston Moore.

What Kurt Cobain was as an artist is forever lost because he never got his chance to get outside of rock n roll, where he belonged. He never quite got to be "done with rock n roll" and it's when he was done with rock n roll that, personally, i think, we woulda seen him do some serious out there shit, something like early PiL, i don't mean in terms of sound but that sort of experimentative approach. I mean, quite frankly, he was just putting out these beautiful fuckin pop songs and trying to work in elements from more abraisive artists, kind of easing people into shit. And he never fuckin got there...shame.

It saddens me that those three albums are now forever how he'll be represented, i think there was more of the future in Kurt than people recognised. Not that there's anything wrong with those albums, they're fuckin' beautiful but...it's kinda like just having the first chapter to a book, y'know?

But all in all? Shit, just feel sad for the boy. I ain't usually the type to behave that way but...i dunno, what can y'say? Krist said it best, he just shouldn't've done that..

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Guest Len B'stard

Expecting Kurt Cobain to get appreciation from mainstream rock fans is always gonna end up badly. It either drags Cobains music into a world that it is not from or for to be misrepresented or it just flat out will not be appreciated or understood. Cobains in a weird little space, he doesn't have the comfort of the sort of integrity that he aspired to, at least for a time, that you find in artists like Mark E Smith or Thurston Moore.

What Kurt Cobain was as an artist is forever lost because he never got his chance to get outside of rock n roll, where he belonged. He never quite got to be "done with rock n roll" and it's when he was done with rock n roll that, personally, i think, we woulda seen him do some serious out there shit, something like early PiL, i don't mean in terms of sound but that sort of experimentative approach. I mean, quite frankly, he was just putting out these beautiful fuckin pop songs and trying to work in elements from more abraisive artists, kind of easing people into shit. And he never fuckin got there...shame.

It saddens me that those three albums are now forever how he'll be represented, i think there was more of the future in Kurt than people recognised. Not that there's anything wrong with those albums, they're fuckin' beautiful but...it's kinda like just having the first chapter to a book, y'know?

But all in all? Shit, just feel sad for the boy. I ain't usually the type to behave that way but...i dunno, what can y'say? Krist said it best, he just shouldn't've done that..

Nirvana is mainstream dude

Thats kinda what i was getting at as being the whole problem with it.

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Expecting Kurt Cobain to get appreciation from mainstream rock fans is always gonna end up badly. It either drags Cobains music into a world that it is not from or for to be misrepresented or it just flat out will not be appreciated or understood. Cobains in a weird little space, he doesn't have the comfort of the sort of integrity that he aspired to, at least for a time, that you find in artists like Mark E Smith or Thurston Moore.

What Kurt Cobain was as an artist is forever lost because he never got his chance to get outside of rock n roll, where he belonged. He never quite got to be "done with rock n roll" and it's when he was done with rock n roll that, personally, i think, we woulda seen him do some serious out there shit, something like early PiL, i don't mean in terms of sound but that sort of experimentative approach. I mean, quite frankly, he was just putting out these beautiful fuckin pop songs and trying to work in elements from more abraisive artists, kind of easing people into shit. And he never fuckin got there...shame.

It saddens me that those three albums are now forever how he'll be represented, i think there was more of the future in Kurt than people recognised. Not that there's anything wrong with those albums, they're fuckin' beautiful but...it's kinda like just having the first chapter to a book, y'know?

But all in all? Shit, just feel sad for the boy. I ain't usually the type to behave that way but...i dunno, what can y'say? Krist said it best, he just shouldn't've done that..

Nirvana is mainstream dude

Needs more facepalm.

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Nirvana is in my top 3 bands of all time. It really is a tragedy he died when he did I could easily see him going in that experimental direction later in life or growing a thick beard and playing acoustic songs in his later years.

You Know You're Right was such a shitty way to go out.... he went out with like his best song ever. How could anyone take their own life when they're in such a creative high?

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Expecting Kurt Cobain to get appreciation from mainstream rock fans is always gonna end up badly. It either drags Cobains music into a world that it is not from or for to be misrepresented or it just flat out will not be appreciated or understood. Cobains in a weird little space, he doesn't have the comfort of the sort of integrity that he aspired to, at least for a time, that you find in artists like Mark E Smith or Thurston Moore.

What Kurt Cobain was as an artist is forever lost because he never got his chance to get outside of rock n roll, where he belonged. He never quite got to be "done with rock n roll" and it's when he was done with rock n roll that, personally, i think, we woulda seen him do some serious out there shit, something like early PiL, i don't mean in terms of sound but that sort of experimentative approach. I mean, quite frankly, he was just putting out these beautiful fuckin pop songs and trying to work in elements from more abraisive artists, kind of easing people into shit. And he never fuckin got there...shame.

It saddens me that those three albums are now forever how he'll be represented, i think there was more of the future in Kurt than people recognised. Not that there's anything wrong with those albums, they're fuckin' beautiful but...it's kinda like just having the first chapter to a book, y'know?

But all in all? Shit, just feel sad for the boy. I ain't usually the type to behave that way but...i dunno, what can y'say? Krist said it best, he just shouldn't've done that..

Yeah there was an interview with Stipe from REM saying Kurt was planning an album really mellow with acoustics and strings, that woulda been very interesting, the guy had a lot more to give. He clearly wasn't happy being the big riff loud chorus band but they were so fucking unique away from that tried and tested dynamic but many 'fans' ain't interested in anything else. The unplugged session was an absolute gem in that regard, such wide influences there too.

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but a giant douche at the same time

I just want to remind you we are on a Gn'R message board.

Good job, I have mixed feelings about Axl too, but even he doesn't have his head as far up his own ass as Kurt Cobain did. Axl is genuinely a loose cannon with some... problems, Kurt was a douchebag smack addict who felt like he was too cool for everything, great musician nonetheless

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