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[Guest Satanisk_Slakt]

Projected.

I agree with all you're saying.

[Projected]

There is no chance in hell 7/7 kids have adhd... That percentage is absurd.

In general I believe that in todays society only 10% of the diagnosed kids actually have something...

[Chloe]

I also didn't necessarily mean WE ALL HAVE IT. You can't diagnose a two year old. The three oldest kids have it, no doubt about it. The other kids just act exactly like us. like the exact same.

[Guest Len B'stard]

There is no chance in hell 7/7 kids have adhd... That percentage is absurd.

In general I believe that in todays society only 10% of the diagnosed kids actually have something...

Wouldn't it be more likely if they were brothers and sisters though? Like, hereditary and that?

[Guest Satanisk_Slakt]

There is no chance in hell 7/7 kids have adhd... That percentage is absurd.

In general I believe that in todays society only 10% of the diagnosed kids actually have something...

I totally agree with that. I think kids are so over-diagnosed these days. Like, this isn't something personal towards Chloe, I'm making general statements, but I think that it's about lazy parenting in almost all of the cases. The kids are under-stimulated from sitting still the whole time. In front of the TV, computer, etc. When I was a kid, I used to be outside running around playing the whole time. Kids don't do that any more. Also, they're getting way more sugar and stuff, that gives them even more energy. Of course they will be out of control, especially if the parents don't have any discipline on them. In almost all of the cases it's just the parents that has done a bad job.

[Guest Broskirose]

This thread started off good

And got better

[Guest Len B'stard]

How can you judge someones situation like this without like, knowing the instance in question with some degree of intimacy? I mean Jesus, I've read about families with cleft palettes and like, 3 out of 3 kids in this family had one...and there's no arguing with this shit i mean, it's not like it takes diagnosing, the fucking roof of their gob is missing, so i don't see why it can't be with ADHD

[Projected]

There is no chance in hell 7/7 kids have adhd... That percentage is absurd.

In general I believe that in todays society only 10% of the diagnosed kids actually have something...

I totally agree with that. I think kids are so over-diagnosed these days. Like, this isn't something personal towards Chloe, I'm making general statements, but I think that it's about lazy parenting in almost all of the cases. The kids are under-stimulated from sitting still the whole time. In front of the TV, computer, etc. When I was a kid, I used to be outside running around playing the whole time. Kids don't do that any more. Also, they're getting way more sugar and stuff, that gives them even more energy. Of course they will be out of control, especially if the parents don't have any discipline on them. In almost all of the cases it's just the parents that has done a bad job.

It is very similar to raising a dog, in this aspect. People lock the dog in the house all day, only taking it out for a wee and back in the house, then they're surprised when the dog eats the couch or does all kind of destructive shit. Kids are VERY much like that. They need action, they need stimulation, they need less sugar and more exercise.

Wouldn't it be more likely if they were brothers and sisters though? Like, hereditary and that?

Still 7/7 is just ridiculous. There are a lot of hereditary diseases out there. Seeing 100% of family members get it is somewhere between rare and impossible.

How can you judge someones situation like this without like, knowing the instance in question with some degree of intimacy? I mean Jesus, I've read about families with cleft palettes and like, 3 out of 3 kids in this family had one...and there's no arguing with this shit i mean, it's not like it takes diagnosing, the fucking roof of their gob is missing, so i don't see why it can't be with ADHD

There is arguing with this shit. By those standards, 90% of the planet's population has ADHD. and considering the fact that humanity went tens thousands of years without drugs to keep that at bay, I think we can conclude that we can still manage without the drugs. It's all in the parenting.

I'm not saying the disease is made up - like I said, I may have it myself - I'm just saying it's way over diagnosed and way more kids are being drugged just because their parents can't be assed to deal with it.

[Guest Satanisk_Slakt]

I completely agree with you, Projected. I will leave this now, because I feel like Chloe probably feel picked on and that wasn't my intention with question that statement. I tried to make general statements. Anyway, it was fun to see the forum males jump into her defence, which was entertaining and I made my first meme ever as well, so I had a good time.

[Projected]

[Georgy Zhukov]

No offence, I really mean that, but I really don't believe that all 7 kids has got ADD or ADHD. I think your parents just failed as parents, took you to a doctor and he gave them an excuse for why they failed as parents and at the swame time prescripted drugs for the kids.

I'm not sure how my parents failed at all? My dad makes a shit ton of money and my mom is the sweetest person ever. So I don't know how they failed. We've all been taken to a clinic and we all have ADD. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. We're all good kids.

I won't say failed, just whoever diagnosed them probably doesn't know what he or she is talking about. ADD and ADHD is over diagnosed. Kids are naturally hyper and don't pay attention. Been like that forever. If anything the idiot saw a huge family like sacks of money.

[Projected]

I like how first it was 7/7 then it was 5 who were diagnosed, then only 3 really had it...

Don't mean to bag on Chloe, just sayin'...

[Georgy Zhukov]

Hard to keep up with seven kids.

[Chloe]

I like how first it was 7/7 then it was 5 who were diagnosed, then only 3 really had it...

Don't mean to bag on Chloe, just sayin'...

"Just sayin" is an irrelevant statement because you weren't "just sayin." You're meaning to bag on me. And the 7/7 was a bit of an exaggeration. You really think I'm sitting here saying my two year old brother has ADD? Gimme a fuckin' break. We all act the fuckin' same. I'm almost positive my other siblings will be crazy fucks like the rest of us. Now drop this goddamn subject. I just tried to introduce myself and S.S. attacked me with his douchey attitude towards everything by saying my parents were screw ups and that ADD isn't real.

Shut the fuck up.

Edited July 7, 2012 by Chloe

[Guest Satanisk_Slakt]

I didn't attack you. I pointed out how stupid what you said was.

[Guest Len B'stard]

I like how first it was 7/7 then it was 5 who were diagnosed, then only 3 really had it...

Don't mean to bag on Chloe, just sayin'...

"Just sayin" is an irrelevant statement because you weren't "just sayin." You're meaning to bag on me. And the 7/7 was a bit of an exaggeration. You really think I'm sitting here saying my two year old brother has ADD? Gimme a fuckin' break. We all act the fuckin' same. I'm almost positive my other siblings will be crazy fucks like the rest of us. Now drop this goddamn subject. I just tried to introduce myself and SS attacked be by saying my parents were screw ups.

Shut the fuck up.

Edited July 7, 2012 by sugaraylen

[Guest Broskirose]

If you aren't arnold layne, don't personally attack Chloe.

[Georgy Zhukov]

Hi, I am from Connecticut.

[The Sandman]

He did go and insult someone's parents - I mean, that's pretty personal.

Fair play, ADD/ADHD is hideously over diagnosed, but to suggest your parents were at fault for your "problems", I can see why people may take offense.

[wasted]

Hi wasted. Again.

[MB.]

He did go and insult someone's parents - I mean, that's pretty personal.

Fair play, ADD/ADHD is hideously over diagnosed, but to suggest your parents were at fault for your "problems", I can see why people may take offense.

This.

It is possible Chloe speaks the truth, ever considered that? Why suggest her parents made mistakes, nobody knows that. I think it's rather a harsh thing to suggest and very offense. Especially since she seems to have very sweet parents.

And some of you should educate themselves about ADD/ADHD. Not nescessarly means a child is very disfunctional. It can be, a child has a hard time learning and sitting still, has difficulties to calm the brain down. But not necessarly a brat. With ADD it's not even always visible. The child is more in the background, daydreaming their time away.

I was diagnosed with ADD, never took medications and school was a totall hell for me. I was daydreaming all the time and all the sounds, colours, voices made me very agitated. If I had known back than, maybe I would have made better choices in life. In my case it's also visible on scans, my brain use other parts when taking in information. But I had an accident and had braininjury, which probably made it worse or was the reason. Let's say, I have all the ADD signs, but it's not sure if I really have it, or it's caused by the accident. Long story....But I can tell you, my parents were the sweetest and functioning parents in the world. And it's not an handicap or always a bad thing, it also can be positive. The hyperfocus can be used for great things. We just have to make the right choices to function. A deskjob is just not the best thing to choose, but other than that, we can contribute to society well.

I also believe it had a function in the past, since so many people has it. Maybe we were the hunters? Make sense, many researchers believe it had a function, but in nowadays society it's not very handy. But it's not the end of the world and not all of us are behaving bad or obnoxious ( well most of us are to honest, which can be rude, but not on purpose), it just takes some training and adjustments.

But agreed medications only when absolutaly necessary and certainly not for young kids, better no medications at all. Braintraining is a better solution. In my country the diagnose and medication are not given fast or easily. Training has the preference. But I understand medications can be a solution as well in some cases.

By the way, I am MBrose, The Netherlands,

Edited July 7, 2012 by MBRose

[RocketQueen1985]

Let me get the popcorn

Allow MJ

MBrose, I agree with all you said. I've been diagnosed with ADD too (after I graduated high school so it wasn't a diagnosis given to me so my parents could use it as an excuse) Just like you said, I was a quiet child, mostly kept myself in the background of things and I daydreamed constantly and I still am this way today. My mind drifts of easily, it's hard to keep my concentration over a longer period of time and focus on the task at hand.

Anyways, I'm RQ1985. I'm from Denmark, 26 years old, love Guns N' Roses, Hole/Courtney Love and Michael Jackson, love animals, fascinated by the mind of serial killers, I like to read and write. That's all I can think of now.

Edited July 7, 2012 by RocketQueen1985

[Tater Totts]

I like how first it was 7/7 then it was 5 who were diagnosed, then only 3 really had it...

Don't mean to bag on Chloe, just sayin'...

"Just sayin" is an irrelevant statement because you weren't "just sayin." You're meaning to bag on me. And the 7/7 was a bit of an exaggeration. You really think I'm sitting here saying my two year old brother has ADD? Gimme a fuckin' break. We all act the fuckin' same. I'm almost positive my other siblings will be crazy fucks like the rest of us.

Young kids look up to their older siblings as role models and follow suit, if they see their siblings causing trouble and being "crazy fucks" they are more likely to think it is okay and copy them. I am not saying for one moment that all of your siblings do or don't have ADD and ADHD but the chances of a younger sibling seeing you acting crazy and copying you are quite high.

Back on topic. Hi, I'm Jon, 22 and from England. I am currently studying for a degree in History and will be starting my final year in September.

Edited July 7, 2012 by Tottenham Hotspur

[The Linguini Occurrence]

Hi, I am from Connecticut.

Me too, and I spend a fair amount of time in Toronto.

I'm surprised how many of us are from Connecticut, I didn't think there would be so many

[Patience 4 Axl]

I don't know if I would go so far as to call it bad parenting, but it is irresponsible to have 7 children if you obviously can't devote enough time to each child and focus on their individual needs. Seems to me that assuming the younger ones may also have ADD/ADHD is extremely lazy parenting. What those kids are doing is watching their older siblings acting like crazy shits and not being disciplined, and they are learning that this is acceptable and appropriate behavior in the household.

Like others have said, especially in the US it seems, there's been an over diagnosis, and children are being labled and medicated at such young ages. It allows parents to throw up their hands and say "see, wasn't our fault, little Johnny has a condition, has nothing to do with how we're raising him". I've seen some amazing results when parents take the time to focus on their children's particular needs, bring them to specialists who can teach them tips on how to focus and calm themselves down, change their diets, practice a more holistic approach. But that requires a lot of time and commitment on the part of those parents. Giving their kids a pill doesn't. It's an easy fix , but no one ever said being a parent should be easy. If you can't do everything possible for your children, it's irresponsible to have them.