ZoSoRose Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah, Supremacy woulda been cool. A bit too late for that one though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah but they could do it like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Ben Whishaw said at the press conference that he knew who the title song performer would be but that he wouldn't discuss it further. Generally speaking, the title song is one of the last things in production so that says to me that we might be looking at another Adele song. I could be wrong, but if it's been settled on already I reckon that it's part of trying to carry over as much from Skyfall as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Yikes. The script leaked.Bond 25 production code name: Fuck You, North Korea. Edit: Oh, and I guess the movie is already over budget after filming for like a week Mid $300 mil. Just to make the movie...not even including the marketing! Edited December 13, 2014 by Crazyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Not going anywhere near leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Either am I. Usually I can't help myself, but this time it's easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Now I am worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 They have script problems a la QOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Apparently the leak is one of Logan's early drafts that they were very unhappy with. I guess it might be for the best that they called in Purvis and Wade. I won't read it in any event. I've been a good boy when the last few Bond scripts have leaked. Minor spoilers sure but definitely not a full script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Maybe Logan made the script a downer. Maybe some changes were made to the villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 That's what I'm guessing but then I haven't read the script so I can't say for sure. Purvis and Wade seem to do just fine when they aren't totally on their own (Die Another Day) so I have faith we'll be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Well Die Another Day's problem is that there was no one there to stop it from going over the top. It was like they wanted it to be over the top. I don't know what they were on when they thought of it. Crack by the looks of it.QoS, looked like they tried to go with the art film approach and someone stepped in and went "Uh, you guys, this is a fucking James Bond film, lets drop the Fellini shit and get some car chases going!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I'll keep my faith that it'll be amazing until the moment the credits roll. I refuse to believe they'll let a Craig film, let alone one where they bring SPECTRE back face problems like I'm hearing from people who've read the spoilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Daniel Craig will remain the best part if anything goes horribly wrong, just like in OoS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Remember too with Quantum it was a mix of Forster's "un-Bond" directorial decisions as well as the writer's strike, so they went in without a true final draft. In this case, we'll definitely have a finished script as well as a proven Bond director so that'll make it all that much better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The lessons of QoS need to be learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 What are thet saying? How can this be bad??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 As I said to Powerage in private,it seems Bond movies -- no matter who the actor is--only seem to be able to keep up to 3 movies back to back in quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I think the "leak' only scratches the surface of the final product. Given the now confirmed ingredients the final third act described doesn't match up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) The idea of The villain being Bond's foster brotheris so utterly cliched and contrived though, like, fan fiction level of suckage. It's a plot twist that's been done ten billion times. Edited December 13, 2014 by Dr. Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Its also nonsense given who that villain is supposed to be not to mention unnecessary given what that villain does to Bond. You don't need those two things together, one is enough to create an emotional link. I think these script discussions must be pretty early in the production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The idea of The villain being Bond's foster brotheris so utterly cliched and contrived though, like, fan fiction level of suckage. It's a plot twist that's been done ten billion times.Why the fuck didn't they use Blofeld? Why the hell isn't Blofeld, the leader of SPECTRE, planning some megalomaniac shit to control stuff instead of releasing a document? I don't get it. Why would Waltz's character be Bond's foster Brother? Skyfall ended in a way that made me think "man, the next movie is gonna be so retro" and when they announced it was named "SPECTRE" I was like "this is gonna be perfect." Why change it all like that for nothing? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I am hoping the script is bollocks, or an extremely early draft of bollocks, and moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Dr. Who PM'ed me asking about this, and I thought it was worth answering in public since I don't have any real spoilers anyways:What sort of issues have you heard rumored will plague the new Bond film? Am curious.It seems like Bond films, no matter who the actor is, only have a three film cycle until the producers start to lose the plot. I'm only going by actors with more than two films here:Dr. No - Goldfinger - GoldenThunderball - Pretty goodYou Only Live Twice - AlrightDiamonds Are Forever - HorribleLive and Let Die - To The Spy Who Loved Me - GoldenFor Your Eyes Only - GreatOctopussy - AlrightA View to a Kill - HorribleGoldeneye - The World is Not Enough - Pretty good runDie Another Day - HorribleCasino Royale - Skyfall - Great, albeit QoS was ok. I've been reading about this on the James Bond subreddit, the only other place I discuss James Bond besides this thread. Over there nearly everyone seems to have read the spoilers, and are just about unanimously unhappy with the leaks. One person asked for spoiler-free descriptions of what is wrong with the script so far, and here's the answers:Here are my thoughts. Personally I am rather concerned because, if these leaks are real, then this film is very ambitious in what it must establish in the span of about 2.5 hours. It can be done but it would be extremely difficult.The non-spoiler version: it's a formulaic film for the first 1.5 hours and isn't hard to predict. Goes along the lines of the Moore films.The final third of the film involves a series of twists with the involvement of multiple major characters which doesn't seem believable in the slightest. It's a rushed ending with little to no reasoning behind the events occurring. It all comes out of nowhere with the expectation that we wouldn't ask questions.The executives are "so-so" about the first 2/3's of it, but they all agreed the final part of the script was highly unsatisfactory. Think of QoS, but more visibly worse on the first watch.The one small-ish specific spoiler I've read (Again, people are unhappy with it):Apparently, in the leaked draft of the script, Blofeld's reveal is saved until somewhere close to the end of the film.For me personally, I could've seen this coming a mile away, especially if SPECTRE is to be involved in more than one film this time around. I really can't say I have a problem with it either, if this is going to be a multiple film saga again, then it really doesn't make sense to throw all your cards on the table at the beginning. Even if it's only a two-parter this time around, I think it will work perfectly fine to reveal Blofeld at the climax of SPECTRE, and have him as the main villain in Bond 25.On to Dr. Who's other point about every actor's run sort of burning out after their third film...that's completely subjective. Time and time again we've proven in here that everyone's opinions on the films (mostly) differ greatly. Octopussy, for example, is my favorite Moore film, while most people find it laughably bad (Hey, I can still admit how terrible Bond in a clown suit is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 It would make sense that Bond 25 would have its most famous villain vs Bond. This movie should be the set up and did anyone spot a certain female villains name in that leak...I don't know...all the details point to this having all the elements necessary to be a remake of OHMSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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