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55 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Brosnan was being fed shit for scripts.

He wasn't fed up with the role though - he was definitely bummed that he got the axe. He's admittedly not my favorite Bond, but I can't help feel bad for him.

 

Totally off on a different topic, finally working on putting together a coherent list of my Bond sightseeing. I've gone through a list, and these are all the cities I've been to that here featured in a Bond film:

- London, England

- Istanbul, Turkey

- Zagreb, Croatia

- Miami, FL

- Nassau, Bahamas

- Tokyo, Japan

- Dover, England

- Amsterdam, Netherlands

- Los Angeles, CA

- Las Vegas, NV

- New York, NY

- Berlin, Germany

- St. Petersburg, Russia

- Shanghai, China

- Mexico City, Mexico

- Rome, Italy

- Vatican City

 

Working on my list of sightseeing destinations now. I think my criteria will be if it's appeared onscreen in a Bond film and I've seen it with my own eyes, it counts - even if it's of little significance (i.e. the UN Building).

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Bond has been the definition of "one step forward, two steps back" during the DC era. 
 

Good: Hire DC, make CR (my favorite and imo best Bond)

Bad: Rush-release a shitty, forced sequel, then get tangled into some legal bullshit that delays the next movie for 4 years.

Good: Release Skyfall (one of the best, again imo), cash in on the Bond 50 celebration

Bad: Instead of sticking to the two year schedule they add another year (thus ruining any momentum), then somehow still don't get a decent script and make an (imo) poor movie with another forced sequel (or at least attempting to tie all the movies together, plus they'll have to resolve the Blofeld thing in the next movie most likely), which will now be weird if there's a new Bond...

 

Plus, now they apparently are ok with making it 4 years between every Bond movie. See MGM, this is why we can't have nice things!

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3 hours ago, Crazyman said:

Bond has been the definition of "one step forward, two steps back" during the DC era. 
 

Good: Hire DC, make CR (my favorite and imo best Bond)

Bad: Rush-release a shitty, forced sequel, then get tangled into some legal bullshit that delays the next movie for 4 years.

Good: Release Skyfall (one of the best, again imo), cash in on the Bond 50 celebration

Bad: Instead of sticking to the two year schedule they add another year (thus ruining any momentum), then somehow still don't get a decent script and make an (imo) poor movie with another forced sequel (or at least attempting to tie all the movies together, plus they'll have to resolve the Blofeld thing in the next movie most likely), which will now be weird if there's a new Bond...

 

Plus, now they apparently are ok with making it 4 years between every Bond movie. See MGM, this is why we can't have nice things!

I think, in summary, after a masterful beginning, the Craig era up was ballsed up by Quantum, following which they did one stand-alone, and were left scrambling to piece back the mistakes created by Quantum with the final film, (and only partially succeeding). Two Bond masterpieces (Casino Royal and Skyfall), one flawed film (Spectre), and one turd (Quantum of Solace): well it just falls short of Connery, who managed four first class films and a couple of stinkers, but it is a good enough innings and rehabilitated Bond, dusting him off for the 21st century.

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7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

The only Bond actor who I feel did not get pissed off with being Bond was Moore.

Moore is my favorite out of the bunch, mostly because of his suave manners and I like the humorous and cartoonish (Moonraker) aspects. I'm not the biggest fan of Craig but I enjoyed Spectre a lot, mainly because it felt like a throwback to the Moore era.

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Unfortunately Pinewood Studios doesn't do tours, but you never know what's going on there during the week. I think Star Wars is there right now. 

They should do an animated backstory about Bond's childhood up to being picked to being a double 0. 

 

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5 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

I think, in summary, after a masterful beginning, the Craig era up was ballsed up by Quantum, following which they did one stand-alone, and were left scrambling to piece back the mistakes created by Quantum with the final film, (and only partially succeeding). Two Bond masterpieces (Casino Royal and Skyfall), one flawed film (Spectre), and one turd (Quantum of Solace): well it just falls short of Connery, who managed four first class films and a couple of stinkers, but it is a good enough innings and rehabilitated Bond, dusting him off for the 21st century.

True but the actor himself has nothing to do with it. Craig has been the most consistent Bond, imo, with more than 2 movies to his name. Even in his stinkers he's put on great performances, just dragged down by other aspects of the film. 

Unfortunately the movies themselves are hit or miss in this era. Bringing back Craig should be near the top of the list of things to do for the next Bond, but either way Bond 25 will be a commercially successful film. Unless they get a decent script in place (and probably bring back Craig), it won't be a critical success. 

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25 minutes ago, Graeme said:

What, you mean he's gonnae come back? :lol:

Well in that case Sean Connery was the Chris Slade of James Bond :lol:

 

Okay, this is my (Possibly incomplete) Bond sightseeing list so far. This is only what I have from memory, and a few that I picked up off a list of Bond locations on Wikipedia:

- Bosphorus Strait, Istanbul, Turkey (From Russia With Love)

- Hagia Sophia, Istanbul, Turkey (From Russia With Love)

- Paradise Island, Nassau, Bahamas (Thunderball)

- Los Angeles International Airport, Los Angeles, CA (Diamonds Are Forever)

- Las Vegas Strip, Las Vegas, NV (Diamonds Are Forever)

- United Nations Headquarters, New York, NY (Live And Let Die)

- FDR Drive, New York, NY (Live And Let Die)

- Harlem, New York, NY (Live And Let Die)

- Checkpoint Charlie, Berlin, Germany (Octopussy) - This one I think was in Octopussy but I'm not 100% sure offhand. Anyone remember?

- Berlin Wall, Berlin, Germany (Octopussy)

- Palace Square, St. Petersburg, Russia (Goldeneye) - Wikipedia claims this was in Goldeneye, but I don't remember seeing it in the film.

- St. Issac's Cathedral, St. Petersburg, Russia (Goldeneye)

- Senate Building, St. Petersburg, Russia (Goldeneye)

- St. Petersburg Canals, St. Petersburg, Russia (Goldeneye)

- MI6 Headquarters, London, England (Various)

- River Thames, London, England (The World Is Not Enough)

- The O2, London, England (The World Is Not Enough)

- Maiden's Tower, Istanbul, Turkey (The World Is Not Enough)

- Buckingham Palace, London, England (Die Another Day)

- Atlantis, Nassau, Bahamas (Casino Royale)

- Miami International Airport, Miami, FL (Casino Royale)

- Grand Bazaar, Istanbul, Turkey (Skyfall)

- Trafalgar Square, London, England (Skyfall)

- The National Gallery, London, England (Skyfall)

- Pudong Skyline, Shanghai, China (Skyfall)

- Pudong International Airport, Shanghai, China (Skyfall)

- London Underground, London, England (Skyfall)

- Parliament Square, London, England (Skyfall)

- National Art Museum, Mexico City, Mexico (SPECTRE)

- The Zócalo, Mexico City, Mexico (SPECTRE)

- Financial District, Mexico City, Mexico (SPECTRE)

- Colosseum, Rome, Italy (SPECTRE)

- St. Peter's Square, Vatican City (SPECTRE)

- St. Peter's Basillica, Vatican City (SPECTRE)

- Westminster Bridge, London, England (SPECTRE)

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I'm reading an article on it now. It seems to regard Hiddleston as strong favourite. James Norton is a bit young. Idris Elba and Damian Lewis a little old - plus the black and ginger thing. It makes a funny remark about Lewis requiring sun protection in Caribbean climes: not very Bond.

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Wow, I just read about it so I thought to check whats going on here. I really din't expect him to quit being Bond. It was a lot of money. 

I would love to see Pierce Brosnan back as James Bond. 

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The thing I hate most about Craig being gone is that they've been building such a nice dynamic between him and his new regulars (M, Moneypenny, and Q) so it'll be a shame to lose that before we've had another film or two of those relationships. I realize Fiennes, Harris, and Whishaw will (likely) all be back but nevertheless it'll suck to continue that with a new actor so early into the dynamic, especially if the actor approaches the role completely different from Craig (which, to be fair, would be a good thing).

The 3-4 year thing could really affect the casting of even the most minor roles. Zero chance for character development.

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I highly recommend "Some Kind Of Hero" - it's a fantastic book which uses QUOTES from printed interviews and the authors own interviews to tell the story of the James Bond movies. It also covers the studio stuff. Lots of revelations. 

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7 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said:

So is it confirmed Craig is out?

Nothing official. MGM told the BBC that "no decision has been made" but otherwise we have nothing. My guess is Craig did indeed turn down the two film offer but they're keeping the door open for one more. The new distributor might want an established Bond for a proven first film before going with someone new.

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1 hour ago, James Bond said:

Nothing official. MGM told the BBC that "no decision has been made" but otherwise we have nothing. My guess is Craig did indeed turn down the two film offer but they're keeping the door open for one more. The new distributor might want an established Bond for a proven first film before going with someone new.

That's a great point actually, didn't think about that. Still, that hinges on Craig wanting to do another film. At any rate, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves thinking about the role before we know what's going on with distribution - that's the first hurdle for them to jump. 

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17 minutes ago, James Bond said:

I just hope that if they decide to continue with doing story arcs rather than standalone films that they do it right this time (with a new actor). Take the Vin Diesel approach and plan three films ahead of time.

Is planning ahead in a franchise with different production teams really practical though? I mean Star Wars is sort of attempting that, but there's still some of the same production team members working on the whole trilogy, whereas with Bond they can be 100% different from film to film, outside of the core EON team. 

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I think as long as they find a decent set of writers to do the planning then it could work out. Having a strong three-film story planned might also help them lure a director in who will stay for a few films. Outside of Mendes, the revolving door of directors has been a bit tiring. Find another Mendes/Campbell, get Purvis and Wade, and do it right this time!

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http://time.com/4346230/female-james-bond-gillian-anderson/

It seems that the majority of people who want Anderson to be Bond are mostly PC social justice warriors.

I think that this is just a bunch of bullshit. Bond is a white male. There is no need to change that... 

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33 minutes ago, Powerage5 said:

The day we get a female Bond is the day I stop seeing Bond films. It's not a sexism thing, it's just that it would change the entire character. I mean, you couldn't even keep the name James Bond, FFS. Fleming would be rolling in his grave if there was ever a female Bond.

 

Luckily, I think EON are smarter than that.

Right? I hate all these so-called progressive fads in movies lately. Considering they'd have to change the entire character, why not just create a new female super spy to spark a different franchise? No need to tinker with Bond.

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