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 Sources say the Beverly Hills-based company is accruing around $1 million in interest a month on the money it borrowed to make No Time to Die, which it won't be able to recoup until the movie opens in theaters.

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On 11/13/2020 at 1:16 AM, YouCouldBeMine_2029 said:

Who Is Your Favorite Badass Bond Villain?

For me it has to be Max Zorin. That is a Charachter that would Still very much Resonate today.

The Very Last 10 Seconds of Max Zorin is Classic Christopher Walken Hahaha

Franz Sánchez from Licence to Kill was a really interesting character. A vicious, horrible bastard, but also someone with a weird moral code who could be urbane and charismatic. Robert Davi did a great job playing him.

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I'm rewatching some of my favorite bond movies. damn, these were well crafted flicks.

I don't bother with any movie post goldeneye though, it's just not my cup of tea. Movies became too fast and chaotic after that, I prefer slower movies.

I read an interesting thing about "a view to a kill" years ago. that moore only has 7 minutes screentime in that movie. Is that true? from watching it I can't remember that being the case. 

 

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1 hour ago, action said:

I'm rewatching some of my favorite bond movies. damn, these were well crafted flicks.

I don't bother with any movie post goldeneye though, it's just not my cup of tea. Movies became too fast and chaotic after that, I prefer slower movies.

I read an interesting thing about "a view to a kill" years ago. that moore only has 7 minutes screentime in that movie. Is that true? from watching it I can't remember that being the case. 

 

I think it must be a well trodden joke about how Moore's stunt double should receive top billing.

Watch Casino Royale. It is basically what Goldeneye was for the mid '90s, sleek, sexy, recapturing the essence of the franchise. The last act is also the closest we came to Fleming since OHMSS.

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1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

Watch Casino Royale. It is basically what Goldeneye was for the mid '90s, sleek, sexy, recapturing the essence of the franchise. The last act is also the closest we came to Fleming since OHMSS.

I keep having people encouraging me to watch casino royale.

I would need to break a principle, solid as marble, of not watching movies made after 2001 (the year the world officially went mad).

 

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1 minute ago, action said:

I keep having people encouraging me to watch casino royale.

I would need to break a principle, solid as marble, of not watching movies made after 2001 (the year the world officially went mad).

 

If you are avoiding the gormless actioner films, you would be advised to follow your own advice and ditch the post Goldeneye films, however Casino Royale is the exception - especially its last act.

Skyfall is good also but very actioney. 

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13 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

If you are avoiding the gormless actioner films, you would be advised to follow your own advice and ditch the post Goldeneye films, however Casino Royale is the exception - especially its last act.

Skyfall is good also but very actioney. 

I heard that these movies are sequels or something?

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2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Quantum of Solace is a sequel to Casino Royale. Skyfall is a stand alone. Spectre is sort of a sequel to all three (it is complicated and an utter mess if truth be told).

a bond movie needs no more than a prologue, a beginning, a middle and an ending.

a memorable title song, sexy girls, a memorable villain, curious transportation means, gadgets, some cultural trivia bits (usually involving booze) and a bit of gentleman banter (such as the bar scene in dr no, where they're making fun of that bird with the camera).

sequels, reboots, .... ugh what a load of bollox.

 

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Just now, action said:

a bond movie needs no more than a prologue, a beginning, a middle and an ending.

a memorable title song, sexy girls, a memorable villain, curious transportation means, gadgets, some cultural trivia bits (usually involving booze) and a bit of gentleman banter (such as the bar scene in dr no, where they're making fun of that bird with the camera).

sequels, reboots, .... ugh what a load of bollox.

 

I agree that the bond franchise shouldn’t be over-complicated the way it has been with recent films.

in other news: I have a feeling MGM is gonna succumb to Apple’s deal and sell the movie to them for $400mil, like Apple proposed.

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in a sense, the goldeneye videogame was the ultimate bond experience. it not only contained scenery from goldeneye (in a remarkable accurate way too), but also the moonraker level, the temple from the spy who loved me,...

there were characters like mayday, oddjob, the music was perfect, the atmosphere, the file you needed to read before each mission.... it is as far as I'm concerned the best bond product ever made, even better than the movies

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even goldeneye (the movie) already had that awkward "self-aware" moment where valentin was making those jokes like he was adressing the audience watching, in a desperate attempt to involve the audience in the joke which is so common in modern cinema, that I almost quit right there and then.

I mean these scenes that seem blatantly tailor made to induce laughter in a cinema hall. they're everywhere these days, but there was a time where movies didn't take the viewer for a fool.

it was not a funny moment (unlike say moore's effortless comedy), it was forced and a jump the shark moment.

and how can I forget the "woke" moment where M took poor bond for a sexist, a dinosaur. seems 1995 was the birth of woke too, so maybe I shouldn't watch movies made after 1995. I certainly don't recall any great movies after that!

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28 minutes ago, action said:

even goldeneye (the movie) already had that awkward "self-aware" moment where valentin was making those jokes like he was adressing the audience watching, in a desperate attempt to involve the audience in the joke which is so common in modern cinema, that I almost quit right there and then.

I mean these scenes that seem blatantly tailor made to induce laughter in a cinema hall. they're everywhere these days, but there was a time where movies didn't take the viewer for a fool.

it was not a funny moment (unlike say moore's effortless comedy), it was forced and a jump the shark moment.

and how can I forget the "woke" moment where M took poor bond for a sexist, a dinosaur. seems 1995 was the birth of woke too, so maybe I shouldn't watch movies made after 1995. I certainly don't recall any great movies after that!

Yes, a trace of woke, Bond being a ''sexist dinosaur'', but it is also about Bond/MI6's role in a new world devoid of the Soviet Union, which is a real historic event that the series couldn't ignore. 

Stick to Octopussy,

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/9395e5fa-5918-4b3a-8c02-5c534ac954da

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15 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Yes, a trace of woke, Bond being a ''sexist dinosaur'', but it is also about Bond/MI6's role in a new world devoid of the Soviet Union, which is a real historic event that the series couldn't ignore. 

Stick to Octopussy,

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/9395e5fa-5918-4b3a-8c02-5c534ac954da

absolutely!

but I find it hard to imagine a scene like that happening in the real world, in the real MI6. on such a high level, there is no room for futile woke moments. it is all about professionalism, and the smallest mistake can have huge consequences. I'm sure, "bringing woke mentality in MI6" wasn't really a priority in 1995, and I'm not even sure it seeped in there yet as we speak. that world is like the very last to adapt to silly changes in mentality of the common folk.

but, it's a movie playing in a cinema, playing for an audience which they increasingly take for fools, and that's the reason we got that.

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2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Yes, a trace of woke, Bond being a ''sexist dinosaur'', but it is also about Bond/MI6's role in a new world devoid of the Soviet Union, which is a real historic event that the series couldn't ignore. 

Stick to Octopussy,

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/9395e5fa-5918-4b3a-8c02-5c534ac954da

Living Daylights is my favourite Bond film. Would love to have seen Dalton stay in the role and make a couple more films. 

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4 hours ago, action said:

I keep having people encouraging me to watch casino royale.

I would need to break a principle, solid as marble, of not watching movies made after 2001 (the year the world officially went mad).

 

What a strange and narrow minded view, but to each their own. You're missing out on the excellence of Casino Royale (objectively up there with the best of OHMSS, Connery, and Dalton) and Skyfall (the biggest crowd pleaser of a Bond since the heyday - lots of fun).

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3 hours ago, action said:

absolutely!

but I find it hard to imagine a scene like that happening in the real world, in the real MI6. on such a high level, there is no room for futile woke moments. it is all about professionalism, and the smallest mistake can have huge consequences. I'm sure, "bringing woke mentality in MI6" wasn't really a priority in 1995, and I'm not even sure it seeped in there yet as we speak. that world is like the very last to adapt to silly changes in mentality of the common folk.

but, it's a movie playing in a cinema, playing for an audience which they increasingly take for fools, and that's the reason we got that.

Bond, even in his grittier guise, has always been a very comic booky version of the British Secret Service. The Harry Palmer films or Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy offer a more realistic version.

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4 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Bond, even in his grittier guise, has always been a very comic booky version of the British Secret Service. The Harry Palmer films or Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy offer a more realistic version.

I was always fine with the comic aspects (until it became too audience oriented starting with goldeneye).

but when the movies became vehicles for silly woke propaganda (and product placement, remember the perrier scene?) I think I didn't bother anymore. From there on it progressively went worse with an overt focus on shooting (the brosnan movies) and making things too complicated for the sake of it (the craig movies).

perhaps the craig movies are good movies, but seeing how these are dragged over sequels I think they went too far. I have a hard time finishing a bond movie in one sittings, as it is (usually taking a small break halfway through), let alone finishing two movies. It is also mentioned here, how it all seems a bit confusing and that's the last that I need to experience for entertainment.

But I don't feel I'm missing out: there's still a good dozen of movies that are perfect and which provide me with all the bond I need.

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