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Solitaire may be the hottest Bond girl ever.

WIth you on that one. Easily top 5. A lot of people (women) think being a Bond girl means you have to be hot and curvy or fit. If that were the case, Teri Hatcher and Halle Berry would have been fine. It takes class and an actress who knows sex appeal. Jane Seymour got that down

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I think I mentioned it elsewhere in the thread, but what makes Solitaire one of the hottest Bond girls is the fact that she is still hot. Jane Seymour has aged ridiculously well. I don't care that she's like 62 now. I still would. :lol:

If they wanted to cure - stop - the aging process, merely bottle what Seymour has and sell it. Well I suppose she does age in fact but, merely ages into sexiness. It is a real u-turn on the whole ageism thing.

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Live and Let Die is the real shocking one. I was always under the impression that Roger didn't really take off at the box office until TSWLM until I actually looked at the numbers years later. I think part of it was Roger being very well known at that point from both The Saint and The Persuaders. It was good timing for him to land the role, and the film was favorably reviewed.

Diamonds I think just has to do with Connery's return. A predominantly American setting probably helped the domestic box office too.

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I think the end credits for Live and Let Die gives a good explanation. A lot of product placement (lots of promotion) and cooperation with various agencies, local governments, and law enforcement which probably generated a lot of buzz.

Like you said James Bond, it was the tight time. Maybe the public was interested in seeing how Moore would pull it off.

Also being set in America helps.

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Even though I don't love Brosnan by any means, you can't deny how passionate he is about Bond after seeing EON. Also nice to see he looks back on some of the shit he had to do and has the same opinion of it as us.

On another topic, I found an article on RS that ranks all 23 EON films plus NSNA best to worst, thought it was an interesting (i.e. shitty) list:

1. Goldfinger

2. From Russia With Love

3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

4. Casino Royale

5. Skyfall

6. Dr. No

7. You Only Live Twice

8. The Spy Who Loved Me

9. Thunderball

10. Die Another Day

11. Live And Let Die

12. For Your Eyes Only

13. Never Say Never Again

14. The Man With The Golden Gun

15. Moonraker

16. Octopussy

17. A View To A Kill

18. Diamonds Are Forever

19. Goldeneye

20. The World Is Not Enough

21. Tomorrow Never Dies

22. The Living Daylights

23. Licence To Kill

24. Quantum Of Solace

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/lists/james-bonds-best-and-worst-peter-travers-ranks-all-24-movies-20121109

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I'd switch YOLO and Dr. No with Licence to Kill and The Living Daylights. I'd put Die Another Day at the end of the list. Holy shit that film made me embarrassed to be a Bond fan. Quantum of Solace nor any of those films deserved to be below DAD. I would rather have Dr. No, GoldenEye or Octopussy at ten.

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I love that bit in EON when Brosnan laughs about the CGI surfing scene in Die Another Day. :lol:

He's passionate about the character but he has a sense of humor too.

What a weird list. The top 5 is pretty fair, but Die Another Day in the top 10 and both Dalton films near the bottom with Quantum dead last? Crazy. Typical critic list though - lets rank the most hyped Bond films first and throw the ones that "nobody liked" at the bottom.

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There's a reason many think The Spy Who Loved Me is Moore's best film. It was funny at the right moments and you forget how silly the plot seems because it is so well paced. The final act is one of the best in the series, Bond isn't some superhero who single handedly destroys the villain's lair, kills the bad guy and gets the girl, he has a small army of sailors to help and he clevery devises a plan to blast a way into the control room by using a detonator from a nuclear warhead. Always loved that scene and credit that to brilliant writing. It makes the film a bit more intelligent than some of its predessors. Wasn't just a mindless shoot 'em up. Think about the scene in Die Hard where McClane uses the C-4 to stop the fellas with the rocket launcher, or Bond using the TNT to blow up propane tanks to take down a helicopter.

All and all it is a fun film. Moonraker and Octopussy took it a little far, For Your Eyes Only and surprisingly A View to a Kill took things a little too seriously but Roger Moore doesn't fit with seriousness. That is for the next guy.

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I've read lots of rumors about Dalton's supposed third film over the years, but I'm 99% sure what ever it was going to be would have just been an earlier form of GoldenEye. In other words, whatever was being worked on naturally turned into GoldenEye over time. I've read they were set on using The Property of a Lady as the title but I've never heard anything official about it.

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They have kept tight security on their scripts. Not sure how the rumor about M's death got out but it seems obvious since Judi Dench is not getting any younger. Bond 24 they are going to seal all the leaks.

But I think around the time Dalton left they started writing GoldenEye. Make the film about making Bond relevant.

Is there any explanation why did Bond switch from a PPK that he used since Dr. No (briefly using the P5 in Octopussy and NSNA) to a P99 from TMW to CR and back to a PPK in QoS and Skyfall? I always assumed Walther just wanted to promote their new firearm but the P99 seems a little bulky to be hidden but it sure looks nice with a supressor.

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I think the P99 was introduced in the Brosnan films to be a bit more modern but still stay true to the film Bond's preference for the brand. I'm guessing that the switch back was to keep a classic Bond element there amidst the reboot and changing around of the formula. Walther still manufactures the gun so I see no reason why Bond shouldn't continue using it. I think Skyfall was the first time he ever used the slightly smaller PPK/S.

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