dalsh327 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I really wish people could shut the fuck up about the "Bond is a codename" theory. It's a stupid theory that has more holes than a block of swiss cheese, and the only people touting it are those that don't know the films inside and out, or haven't even seen all the films/read all the books.The code name is "age", even though Roger Moore was older than Sean Connery. Worth checking out - Playboy interview with Ian Fleming. No Bond Playmates (although that would be a good addition to the thread) "just the article". http://www.hmss.com/lagniappe/PlayboyInterview_IanFleming_1964.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Watching Skyfall. This is my favorite Bond performance. Especially when he was all pissed at M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 The subtitles in Quantum drove me nuts in general. I hated how even on the big screen they chose a font that resembled DVD player generated subtitles. Very distracting, especially during the car chase as you mentioned.Also, add me to the group that thinks the "codename theory" is lame. You're right P5, it's usually only casual fans and critics who try to argue in favor of it. Lee Tamahori too, but I like to pretend he never came anywhere near Bond.They should go back to the old gun barrel sequences when they used to actually stick a camera down the barrel of a gun. I think the last time it was done in the traditional way was Dalton's. Since Brosnan it has been digital. The Brosnan's were alright, but remember the CGI bullet on Die Another Day's gun-barrel? That was shocking. One of them (GE i think) used really electronic music which I didn't like.I think Lazenby was actually the last one to use the true pinhole camera image. From Roger on (until Pierce) it was a painted reproduction of that image. At least from TSWLM on. I can't remember what LALD/TMWTGG looked like at the moment. I actually didn't mind the CGI bullet in Die Another Day. Agreed on GoldenEye's gun barrel cue being awful. The Bond melody on a timpani? Way to go Eric Serra. You can barely even hear it's there. Fun fact though - for the opening orchestra hits when the dots start scrolling, Serra sampled the Goldfinger gun barrel cue and changed the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 "I feel naked without it." is my favorite Bond girl line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Rank each Bond film by actor, from their best to worst film, for example, my list:ConneryGoldfingerYou Only Live TwiceFrom Russia With LoveDiamonds Are ForeverDr. NoThunderballMoore:Live and Let DieThe Spy Who Loved MeFor Your Eyes OnlyMoonrakerThe Man With the Golden GunOctopussyA View to a KillDalton:License to KillThe Living DaylightsBrosnan:Goldeneye (his only good film)Die Another DayThe World is Not EnoughTomorrow Never DiesCraig:SkyfallCasino RoyaleQuantom of Solace Edited March 14, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Good idea. A bit easier than trying to rank all of them under one category.ConneryFrom Russia With Love ThunderballDr. NoGoldfingerYou Only Live TwiceDiamonds Are ForeverMooreOctopussyThe Spy Who Loved MeThe Man With The Golden GunMoonrakerLive and Let DieFor Your Eyes OnlyA View To A KillDaltonThe Living DaylightsLicence to KillBrosnanGoldenEyeThe World Is Not EnoughTomorrow Never DiesDie Another DayCraigSkyfallCasino RoyaleQuantum of SolaceI think it's fairly obvious what my Lazenby ranking is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Connery From Russia with Love Goldfinger Thunderball Dr. No Diamonds are Forever You Only Live Twice Never Say Never Again Moore The Spy Who Loved Me Octopussy Live And Let Die For Your Eyes Only Moonraker The Man with the Golden Gun A View to a Kill Dalton Licence to Kill The Living Daylights Both awesome films Brosnan GoldenEye Tomorow Never Dies The World is Not Enough Die Another Day Craig Skyfall Casino Royale Quantum of Solace On Her Majesy's Secret Service owns all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 ConneryFrom Russia With LoveThunderballGoldfingerDr. NoDiamonds Are ForeverYou Only Live TwiceLazenbyOn Her Majesty's Secret ServiceMooreThe Man With The Golden GunOctopussyThe Spy Who Loved MeLive And Let DieMoonrakerA View To A KillFor Your Eyes OnlyDaltonThe Living DaylightsLicence To KillBrosnanGoldeneyeTomorrow Never DiesThe World Is Not EnoughDie Another DayCraigSkyfallCasino RoyaleQuantum Of SolaceRank each Bond film by actor, from their best to worst film, for example, my list:ConneryGoldfingerYou Only Live TwiceFrom Russia With LoveDiamonds Are ForeverDr. NoThunderball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I would have expected Miser to put YOLO first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 It's just so...boring. Like, it doesn't suck but it doesn't have any of the feeling of the other Connery movies. And it's racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Nice cinematography and a great volcanic set. Even Ken Adam who designed and built the thing dismissed it as a waste. But it was just boring. I mean, rocket guns? The stuntmen did a fantastic job but it was a wasted effort. Edited March 14, 2013 by Georgy Zhukov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 From Russia With LoveDr. NoThunderballGoldfingerYou Only Live TwiceDiamonds Are ForeverFor Your Eyes OnlyLive and Let DieThe Spy Who Loved MeOctopussyThe Man With the Golden GunA View to a KillMoonrakerThe Living DaylightsLicense to KillGoldeneyeThe World is Not EnoughTomorrow Never DiesDie Another DayCasino RoyaleSkyfallQuantom of Solace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Nice cinematography and a great volcanic set. Even Ken Adam who designed and built the thing dismissed it as a waste.But it was just boring. I mean, rocket guns? The stuntmen did a fantastic job but it was a wasted effort.I find it a fun film. To me, what makes a Bond film good isn't whether it stays true to fucking stodgy Ian Fleming's novels say, it's whether it's an enjoyable, escapist film. All this "we must stick true to the novels" bullshit is just that--bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Thunderball was better. The Spy Who Loved Me was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah, it's got nothing to do with YOLT not being true to the novel. Where did any of us say Bond films had to? I just don't find it a fun film. I agree with P5 and Georgy - it's boring. On the other hand, Octopussy has nothing to do with Fleming but it's fun and one of my favorite Bond films. Who says you can't enjoy both kinds of Bond films? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah, it's got nothing to do with YOLT not being true to the novel. Where did any of us say Bond films had to? I just don't find it a fun film. I agree with P5 and Georgy - it's boring. On the other hand, Octopussy has nothing to do with Fleming but it's fun and one of my favorite Bond films. Who says you can't enjoy both kinds of Bond films?Just seems a lot of you guys are purists to Fleming, which explains your love of Craig's movies. Personally I've tried reading Fleming's novels--meh. Boring as shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 I wouldn't call us purists. They're just good movies. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy the "fun" ones equally. I love the Moore films.It's like when people at work or wherever who've never seen a Bond film ask me which one they should start with, I usually ask what kinds of movies they're into. If they like popcorn entertainment, then maybe it's better to put on a "fun" Bond like Moonraker or Tomorrow Never Dies. If they prefer realism, then obviously go for Dalton. Want classic and sophisticated? Connery. Want a hybrid of Connery and Dalton? Go for Craig. Want to wish you were dead? Put on Die Another Day or Never Say Never Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah, it's got nothing to do with YOLT not being true to the novel. Where did any of us say Bond films had to? I just don't find it a fun film. I agree with P5 and Georgy - it's boring. On the other hand, Octopussy has nothing to do with Fleming but it's fun and one of my favorite Bond films. Who says you can't enjoy both kinds of Bond films?Just seems a lot of you guys are purists to Fleming, which explains your love of Craig's movies. Personally I've tried reading Fleming's novels--meh. Boring as shit.We're hardly purists - we just enjoy the books and the films. If we were Fleming "purists", we'd hate most of the films besides OHMSS and Casino Royale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah, it's got nothing to do with YOLT not being true to the novel. Where did any of us say Bond films had to? I just don't find it a fun film. I agree with P5 and Georgy - it's boring. On the other hand, Octopussy has nothing to do with Fleming but it's fun and one of my favorite Bond films. Who says you can't enjoy both kinds of Bond films?Just seems a lot of you guys are purists to Fleming, which explains your love of Craig's movies. Personally I've tried reading Fleming's novels--meh. Boring as shit.Unashamed Fleming fan, when you follow the books (or at least the style of the books) you get From Russia With Love, OHMSS, Licence to Kill and Casino Royale... too far in the other direction and you get Moonraker. No contest for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) I've actually never read the books as I have stated several times in this thread. I did attempt to read Licence Renewed by James Garnder but I put it down. I didn't like YOLO because it was boring. Nothing to do with the book which I have never read. I wanted to like it but man it was boring. And I love Asian women but it was boring. Some nice shots and action scenes but I am sorry but it was boring. I like the Craig movies the same reason I like the other movies. I enjoy them. I mean don't complain about the direction of the series after Moonraker and Die Another Day. Trust me this series has seen the bottom. I actually am afraid Bond 24 will be another Skyfall. I love Skyfall, it is my favorite along side OHMSS but this series doesn't need another OHMSS no more than it needs Skyfall. Just give me Bond 24 Edited March 15, 2013 by Georgy Zhukov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) There's a book that compiled the comic strips, found out my library had a copy. The reviews said they're pretty faithful to Fleming's books. Edited March 15, 2013 by dalsh327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Off topic but I have not seen a single Resident Evil film but I am shocked that Milla Jovovich has starred in all five of them. I only see comittment like that in James Bond films. Actually only two actors ever did five films or more. Hopefully Craig will be the third. I heard the RE movies suck though but I wouldn't mind watching them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Yeah, it's got nothing to do with YOLT not being true to the novel. Where did any of us say Bond films had to? I just don't find it a fun film. I agree with P5 and Georgy - it's boring. On the other hand, Octopussy has nothing to do with Fleming but it's fun and one of my favorite Bond films. Who says you can't enjoy both kinds of Bond films?Just seems a lot of you guys are purists to Fleming, which explains your love of Craig's movies. Personally I've tried reading Fleming's novels--meh. Boring as shit.Well I prefer the books over the films. I like the films but I love the novels. That is just where I stand on the equation. Edited March 15, 2013 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 I've actually never read the books as I have stated several times in this thread. I did attempt to read Licence Renewed by James Garnder but I put it down.The John Gardner books are extremely dry. I never made it through all of them. I started with his GoldenEye novelization to familiarize myself with his style but it was boring. His Tomorrow Never Dies one was okay. The only book of his that wasn't a chore to read was Cold. Never read all of the Benson novels either but he was better. The Jeffrey Deaver novel from a couple years ago was pretty good. Nothing original or groundbreaking but an entertaining Bond novel. I'd recommend that one. Also, Colonel Sun which was the first Bond novel post-Fleming is also really good. The rest are forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Colonel Sun is the only post-Fleming Novel that seems to get a lot of love from fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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