Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 It looked fine in some shots, such as your sig pic. But hopefully they will see the error of their ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Wouldn't kill him if he lets his hair grow a little bit.Russian KGB agents like James Putin have to have mandatory crew cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Wouldn't kill him if he lets his hair grow a little bit.Russian KGB agents like James Putin have to have mandatory crew cut.Oh get over it. He is the best Bond since Connery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Wouldn't kill him if he lets his hair grow a little bit.Russian KGB agents like James Putin have to have mandatory crew cut.Oh get over it. He is the best Bond since Connery.He is good Russian KGB agent assuming James Bond's identity. James Bourne Putin is great in his reboot/spin off series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If the series is a reboot, explain the Aston Martin DB5 with the same gadgets from Goldfinger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If the series is a reboot, explain the Aston Martin DB5 with the same gadgets from Goldfinger?James Putin murdered Bond on special assignment from KGB and stole his gadgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Okay then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I guess we finally have a very reasonable explanation of continuity in the Bond films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 That all the James Bonds not played by Connery are KGB imposters? MI6 is the most retarded intelligence agency ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 This is starting to sound like the codename theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) If the series is a reboot, explain the Aston Martin DB5 with the same gadgets from Goldfinger?If the series isn't a reboot, how did Bond get that Aston Martin DB5 from Goldfinger when he only got his 00 status in Casino Royale and Casino Royale rebooted the series? How did he get a relic from 50 years ago from a more veteran Bond, when he's supposed to be a relatively new and less experienced agent? Unless Bond time traveled to 1964 and got it then, how did a guy who only became a 00 in 2006 get a car from '64 from a mission from then?The whole point of Casino Royale was to reboot the series and establish a continuity separate from the first 20 films! Edited March 18, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yes, you are right that Casino Royale was about Bond's first mission, it was the only way to make the story work and unfortunately QoS was tying up the loose ends. But Skyfall was meant to wipe the slate clean. It establishes somewhat of a continuity with the rest of the series.I know it is difficult for someone who is new to the films to understand but that is how it works. Skyfall is not a direct sequel to QoS, but pretty much the whole series. Just like any other Bond film.Don't be like those fools who kept asking why Casino Royale took place in 2006 and not in the late 1950's and why Bond was not carrying a Beretta instead of Walther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Yes, you are right that Casino Royale was about Bond's first mission, it was the only way to make the story work and unfortunately QoS was tying up the loose ends. But Skyfall was meant to wipe the slate clean. It establishes somewhat of a continuity with the rest of the series.I know it is difficult for someone who is new to the films to understand but that is how it works. Skyfall is not a direct sequel to QoS, but pretty much the whole series. Just like any other Bond film.Don't be like those fools who kept asking why Casino Royale took place in 2006 and not in the late 1950's and why Bond was not carrying a Beretta instead of Walther.They could've made the story work without rebooting the series. And wipe the state clean? What the hell does that even mean? Is it a reboot of the reboot? Should CR and QOS just sort of be looked at as separate entries in the same universe, with Skyfall being the real, in continuity 21st Bond?I'm far from new to them. The series flowed along a line of continuity direct from Dr. No to A View to a Kill with some very common elements (Aston Martin, Walther, Tracy) all throughout the series despite the different actors. Dalton's first film continued that, with a mention of Bond's deceased wife. Brosnan's films continued that same line, with Bond being referred to as a Cold War dinosaur in Goldeneye and references to previous films in his own films.Craig's first film essentially hit reset on the series and that was the intent going in, to literally start a new continuity that wiped the slate clean and begin the series anew without the baggage of the original continuity and original films. QOS continued this new continuity. Suddenly, Skyfall has Bond having shit from an assignment 50 years ago despite him being a pretty new agent? You just went against the entire intent and purpose behind the first two Craig films.And really, it would've made for more interesting films if Casino Royale had taken place in the '50s, with the same premise of it being his first assignment as a 00. Could've had a darker and edgier Bond as they wanted, starting off his career as an agent in the '50s. The 50s and 60s was a time of fucking real life political assassinations all over the place and near nuclear war. Would've also retained the glamorous aspects of the series within this darker and edgier, grittier frame. It would've explained why Connery's Bond is comfortable with his job while still being cold and ruthless--because by the time of Dr. No, he's already in the middle of his career. It's business as usual to him. Edited March 18, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I think it's clear in Skyfall that much time has passed after Quantum. Casino Royale could have worked as an "old" Bond if they just took out the dialogue that referenced it being his first mission. They haven't stuck to a strict reboot formula. It was more or less just an attempt to get away from the Die Another Day type of film, plus EON's desire to finally do Casino Royale.Plus, it's impossible to find continuity in Bond post-Connery anyways. True continuity I mean. Sure, a line of dialogue here or there that references his wife or the Cold War but is there really anything else? Bond would be in his nineties by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Suspension of disbelief is key to actually enjoying any Bond films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Do you really think Casino Royale was the first reboot? The series rebooted at least a half a dozen times.Are you a producer working on the film? Because the "intents and purposes" of the Craig films is to deliver audiences great James Bond films as they have been recieving for the last 50 years.Yes, we know Tracy is mentioned a few times, she was also not mentioned in DAF, especially when Moneypenny asks for an engagement ring. Kind of cold if Bond hadn't lost a wife. Like I said, the series has limited connections.And there is no reason not to think Bond wouldn't have an Aston Martin DB5 in Skyfall. He is James Bond. Of course he has one. Don't get worked up over it, just be entertained.And thanks for admitting he is James Bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I think it's clear in Skyfall that much time has passed after Quantum. Casino Royale could have worked as an "old" Bond if they just took out the dialogue that referenced it being his first mission. They haven't stuck to a strict reboot formula. It was more or less just an attempt to get away from the Die Another Day type of film, plus EON's desire to finally do Casino Royale.Plus, it's impossible to find continuity in Bond post-Connery anyways. True continuity I mean. Sure, a line of dialogue here or there that references his wife or the Cold War but is there really anything else? Bond would be in his nineties by now.Maybe James Bond is a Time Lord who regenerates?Yes, you are right about Casino Royale about getting away from Die Another Day. The first mission was really to start fresh, it was not a reboot in a sense Batman Begins was. And yes EON wanted to do Casino Royale right so they did it as Bond's first mission. You don't spend decades waiting for the book to fall in your lap only to be just another mission.Skyfall was to get away from the mess Quantum of Solace. To show Bond fans that the filmmakers hasn't forgotten the classic elements. There was no reason not to have Q or Moneypenny in QoS. A reference to Q branch would have been nice. Now we finally have them, they can just keep making classic Bond films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 And thanks for admitting he is James Bond.In name only. The last real Bond was Brosnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 And thanks for admitting he is James Bond.In name only. The last real Bond was Brosnan.Well Brosnan disagrees with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Suspension of disbelief is key to actually enjoying any Bond films.This. Bond has always had an element of fantasy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) And thanks for admitting he is James Bond.In name only. The last real Bond was Brosnan.Well Brosnan disagrees with you.And?I simply don't like James Putin or what he stands for or the way the Craig films raped the series. I'll take Moore aping Blaxploitation and Kung Fu over what Craig has to offer: Dark, dreary, overly realistic, not fun, Chris Nolan wannabe crap by a guy who looks like he worked for the KGB. Edited March 18, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Suspension of disbelief is key to actually enjoying any Bond films.This. Bond has always had an element of fantasy too. Can't believe someone can complain about Skyfall, but not Moonraker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Suspension of disbelief is key to actually enjoying any Bond films.This. Bond has always had an element of fantasy too. Can't believe someone can complain about Skyfall, but not Moonraker...At the very least it was fun even if utterly over the top and it wasn't trying to be as dark and gritty as possible.Even Connery's darkest Bond still was escapist and glamorous. Edited March 18, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Moving on now.What are your favorite moments from each Bond actor?Lets start with Daniel Craig since it is a hot topic.I've been really enjoying that scene with Bond and Severine at the casino. She struts around, like she is a boss, tries to tell Bond to take the money and mind his own business, but Bond turns the tables on her, lets her know he knows she is being controlled by the bodyguards and that she is afraid. It would drive feminists insane but Bond becomes her only ticket out of the hopeless situation."If I bring you to him, could you kill him?""Yes""Will you kill him?""Someone usually dies"And she answers that with such delight. Just a great scene from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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