The James Bond Thread: RIP Robbie Coltrane

[Vincent Vega]

The only worthwhile Bond themes, IMO:

1) Goldfinger

2) You Only Live Twice

3) Kingston Calypso

4) Live and Let Die

5) Thunderball

lol

It's blasphemous not to have We Have All The Time In The World and A View To A Kill on there at the very least

View to a Kill is a generic '80 song.

Don't like We Have All The Time in the World.

None of Brosnan's movies had good themes.

Same with Craig and Dalton.

Moore and Connery are the only ones who had good themes.

[ZoSoRose]

I actually really dig all the craig themes

[James Bond]

The only worthwhile Bond themes, IMO:

1) Goldfinger

2) You Only Live Twice

3) Kingston Calypso

4) Live and Let Die

5) Thunderball

lol

It's blasphemous not to have We Have All The Time In The World and A View To A Kill on there at the very least

View to a Kill is a generic '80 song.

Don't like We Have All The Time in the World.

None of Brosnan's movies had good themes.

Same with Craig and Dalton.

Moore and Connery are the only ones who had good themes.

A View To A Kill has its place. It at least deserves credit for its success as a Bond song.

I would agree with Dalton except The Living Daylights is one of my favorites. I think it's a killer tune. License To Kill's theme sucks though. Brosnan I agree with except for The World Is Not Enough. That's a great song. Surrender gets a nod too, and I wish it would have remained the main theme for Tomorrow Never Dies instead of getting switched at the last minute.

Craig is 2 for 3 right now. Skyfall was the perfect song for the 50th anniversary. It sounds distinctly Bond but Adele's vocal adds a fresh quality to it. You Know My Name was perfect as an introduction for the harder edged Craig (thus a hard rock song), and it was amazing as the key theme in the score. Another Way To Die is a clunker though.

[Powerage5]

The only worthwhile Bond themes, IMO:

1) Goldfinger

2) You Only Live Twice

3) Kingston Calypso

4) Live and Let Die

5) Thunderball

lol

It's blasphemous not to have We Have All The Time In The World and A View To A Kill on there at the very least

View to a Kill is a generic '80 song.

Don't like We Have All The Time in the World.

None of Brosnan's movies had good themes.

Same with Craig and Dalton.

Moore and Connery are the only ones who had good themes.

A View To A Kill has its place. It at least deserves credit for its success as a Bond song.

I would agree with Dalton except The Living Daylights is one of my favorites. I think it's a killer tune. License To Kill's theme sucks though. Brosnan I agree with except for The World Is Not Enough. That's a great song. Surrender gets a nod too, and I wish it would have remained the main theme for Tomorrow Never Dies instead of getting switched at the last minute.

Craig is 2 for 3 right now. Skyfall was the perfect song for the 50th anniversary. It sounds distinctly Bond but Adele's vocal adds a fresh quality to it. You Know My Name was perfect as an introduction for the harder edged Craig (thus a hard rock song), and it was amazing as the key theme in the score. Another Way To Die is a clunker though.

Exactly why You Know My Name is my favorite Bond theme - it's normal for the theme to be worked into the score, but I loved how Casino Royale used it, almost in place of the Bond theme, it was really effective.

[Vincent Vega]

Craig is indeed the only Bond that means anything. All the others were pretenders.

[Powerage5]

Craig is indeed the only Bond that means anything. All the others were pretenders.

Dude, seriously, why the fuck can't you just let us enjoy Daniel Craig without you always bitching about him? You don't like him, that's fine, but there's no need to act like we're trying to suppress every other actor who's played Bond when we say that he's our favorite. We don't give you shit for Connery being your favorite, so don't give use shit for Craig being our favorite.

[James Bond]

Craig is indeed the only Bond that means anything. All the others were pretenders.

The Pretenders? Oh, you mean the two songs that were used in the soundtrack to The Living Daylights. Another one of my favorite Barry scores.

P5 hit the nail on the head too. Where have we even remotely implied we don't like anything before Craig? I'm a fan of all the Bonds.

[Vincent Vega]

I really don't think you are. Craig's Bond is like NewGNR; The only similarity is the brand name. It's a dark, gritty, psychological thriller with a blonde Russian KGB agent who happens to be named Bond. It's about legitimate as the 1967 Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again. Those movies featured a guy named James Bond too.

Edited March 20, 2013 by Vincent Vega

[James Bond]

I'm glad you know more about which Bonds I like than I do. Yeah, that Connery guy. Fucking shit.

[DieselDaisy]

I actually like all of the Brosnan themes except for DAD. Goldeneye was particuarly effective, especially with the title (naked girls smashing down statues of Lenin).

[Crazyman]

Craig's Bond is like NewGNR

Thank you for this. I'm going to laugh about this quote for a good amount of time.

[DieselDaisy]

If Craig is Bond's newgnr, he would have released one gradoise film that flopped and then just put out remakes of Goldfinger over-and-over again, copying Connery's mannerisms. The cast members would have revolved everyone film also.

[Crazyman]

If Craig is Bond's newgnr, he would have released one gradoise film that flopped and then just put out remakes of Goldfinger over-and-over again, copying Connery's mannerisms. The cast members would have revolved everyone film also.

I would argue they're completely differen't. One relies on playing all the old hits to remain relevant (at all), has released one album that pretty much flopped.

The other has created a new formula, has been more successful than ever before and is getting extremely rave reviews from critics.

But yeah, I suppose Craig's Bond is just like newgnr

[dalsh327]

Can we agree that is the best or at the very least second best James Bond theme song ever?

We sure can. Well, I don't place it that high on my list but hey, I won't argue with that. Definitely a beautiful song and it worked nicely in Barry's score. That score is actually one of Barry's best I think.

>Rewatched Skyfall today and my consensus still remains: bottom on the list of James Bond movies.

Did you really have to rewatch it for us to know that you still don't like it?

Gilby was in Nancy's backing band, so mark him down for doing 2 James Bond theme songs...

[Vincent Vega]

I would've accepted the Craig idea films more if they'd pursued and gotten John Hamm as James Bond. At least he doesn't look like Vladimir Putin's brother and actually can pull off being classy and cold withut seeming like a thug.

[Crazyman]

I've mentioned him a few times already in this thread. But still, holy shit, we agreed on something Bond related.

Except that I still would want Craig to be Bond. Only if they did an "Americanized" version of Bond would I want Hamm.

[Georgy Zhukov]

Craig is indeed the only Bond that means anything. All the others were pretenders.

Dude, seriously, why the fuck can't you just let us enjoy Daniel Craig without you always bitching about him? You don't like him, that's fine, but there's no need to act like we're trying to suppress every other actor who's played Bond when we say that he's our favorite. We don't give you shit for Connery being your favorite, so don't give use shit for Craig being our favorite.

Right on, P5.

None of us are saying we don't like Connery, we are just not fans of You Only Live Twice. Pretty much everyone who posts here are Connery fans. Just because we like Daniel Craig doesn't mean we hate all the other Bonds.

You can always not post here Miser. If you can't play nice you should leave.

[Vincent Vega]

I've mentioned him a few times already in this thread. But still, holy shit, we agreed on something Bond related.

Except that I still would want Craig to be Bond. Only if they did an "Americanized" version of Bond would I want Hamm.

We've had a Scottish Bond, an Irish Bond, a Welsh Bond, why not an American one? We're basically Britain's forsaken sons anyway. Jon Hamm would've been absolutely fucking perfect. He could've even TOPPED Connery if they'd done it right.

[Powerage5]

I really don't think you are. Craig's Bond is like NewGNR; The only similarity is the brand name. It's a dark, gritty, psychological thriller with a blonde Russian KGB agent who happens to be named Bond. It's about legitimate as the 1967 Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again. Those movies featured a guy named James Bond too.

Did you really just imply that neither Georgy, JB, or myself are fans of all eras? No, if we were Craig fanboys then Quantum Of Solace would be our third favorite Bond films, and for all of us it ranks in our bottom third. Not to mention Georgy's favorite film is OHMSS.

But no, you're absolutely right - Diamonds Are Forever is a vastly superior film to OHMSS, Casino Royale, or The Living Daylights. Thanks for showing us the error of our ways.

I actually like all of the Brosnan themes except for DAD. Goldeneye was particuarly effective, especially with the title (naked girls smashing down statues of Lenin).

Goldeneye ranks in my top 5 title sequences. Very cool, very powerful. Just wish it had less obvious CGI, and was done more like the older title sequences. Perfect example of how Goldeneye can seem so dated.

[Georgy Zhukov]

They have tried for an American Bond. Twice.

First was John Gavin who was going to be in DAF, but they got Connery back. Next was James Brolin for Octopussy but they got Roger Moore to come back since Connery was doing the unofficial NSNA.

Clint Eastwood and Burt Renyolds were two actors that were approached and turned down.

You forget we've had an Australian Bond too. OHMSS has a special place in our hearts.

Aww P5, you remembered!

Edited March 20, 2013 by Georgy Zhukov

[Powerage5]

They have tried for an American Bond. Twice.

First was John Gavin who was going to be in DAF, but they got Connery back. Next was James Brolin for Octopussy but they got Roger Moore to come back since Connery was doing the unofficial NSNA.

Clint Eastwood and Burt Renyolds were two actors that were approached and turned down.

You forget we've had an Australian Bond too. OHMSS has a special place in our hearts.

Indiana Jones is practically a gritty, Americanized Bond. Harrison Ford would've been perfect if Bond ever went yankee.

[Georgy Zhukov]

Not going to lie, the GoldenEye title sequence gave me a woodie when I first saw it.

[Vincent Vega]

I really don't think you are. Craig's Bond is like NewGNR; The only similarity is the brand name. It's a dark, gritty, psychological thriller with a blonde Russian KGB agent who happens to be named Bond. It's about legitimate as the 1967 Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again. Those movies featured a guy named James Bond too.

Did you really just imply that neither Georgy, JB, or myself are fans of all eras? No, if we were Craig fanboys then Quantum Of Solace would be our third favorite Bond films, and for all of us it ranks in our bottom third. Not to mention Georgy's favorite film is OHMSS.

But no, you're absolutely right - Diamonds Are Forever is a vastly superior film to OHMSS, Casino Royale, or The Living Daylights. Thanks for showing us the error of our ways.

>I actually like all of the Brosnan themes except for DAD. Goldeneye was particuarly effective, especially with the title (naked girls smashing down statues of Lenin).

Goldeneye ranks in my top 5 title sequences. Very cool, very powerful. Just wish it had less obvious CGI, and was done more like the older title sequences. Perfect example of how Goldeneye can seem so dated.

I just don't accept radical change very well. Craig represents a permanent break from the old ways, and people think he's the best, trumping even the originals. And I don't like overly dark or gritty stuff.

They have tried for an American Bond. Twice.

First was John Gavin who was going to be in DAF, but they got Connery back. Next was James Brolin for Octopussy but they got Roger Moore to come back since Connery was doing the unofficial NSNA.

Clint Eastwood and Burt Renyolds were two actors that were approached and turned down.

You forget we've had an Australian Bond too. OHMSS has a special place in our hearts.

Indiana Jones is practically a gritty, Americanized Bond. Harrison Ford would've been perfect if Bond ever went yankee.

Harrison Ford lacks that certain debonair charm. He's more a Cowboy, more rough and tumble. He can't really pull off sophisticated well.

[Georgy Zhukov]

They broke from the old ways when they cast Roger Moore. Fleming would have had an aneurism if he ever watched a Roger Moore film. I think the only reason he accepted Connery is because the films got people to buy the books.

[Vincent Vega]

They broke from the old ways when they cast Roger Moore. Fleming would have had an aneurism if he ever watched a Roger Moore film. I think the only reason he accepted Connery is because the films got people to buy the books.

He seemed to like Connery enough to actually re-write the character to base him around Connery, giving him a Scottish background and a sense of humor. He didn't have to do that.