Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I still maintain that only the 10 or so seconds of Checkmate/Jackie Chan or whatever is a real leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Anyway, if you think the Better Gone remix is easily fakeable with the multitracks you're very, terrible wrong. The mix on that song is super professinonal, not something anyone with Audacity and the multitracks could have done. And also, why the fuck would anyone remix that? Honestly, why would anyone record acoustic guitars, remix with movie quotes and hip-hop beats and leak it in the internet instead of assuming the authorship of something that would take a lot of time and effort? People have been faking GNR songs since before you were BORN. Yes, it is mind-boggling that people have enough free time and effort to string together either little clips or full fake songs, but the fact that GNR were so popular and had so little output left a lot of fans demanding MORE for the last two decades. And because fans are so voracious about hearing new stuff, it's led to dozens upon dozens of fake songs, clips, leaks, remixes or whatever. Maybe some people were trying to get Axl's attention, but I think most people just did it as a prank for a cheap laugh cause GNR fans are easy marks.These little forums go into an absolute tizzy every time there's a chance of something new, even a shitty 10 second clip. So people take the time to fabricate them and then just sit back and watch the shitstorm, simply for shits and giggles.Better Gone is no different. Brain never said he made it. It's just a shitty fan made remix. Nothing special...there are dozens of them out there. Blood in the Water is fake too. Would it be EASY to fake those Axl vocals? No, it would take effort, but people have done it. Why would someone go to such efforts? All the reasons I said...a mixture of boredom and a desire to start some controversy and discussion. I guess it worked too...cause we're discussing it. And it fooled a lot of you too, cause you really wanna believe it's real. It's not like Axl has given us any new music to discuss in the last 4 years.Oh and before you insist that it is DEFINITELY 100% for sure Axl's vocals...go listen to My Favorite Pillow by Ghost Town Road.....people swore on their mother's lives that was Axl too.....it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 He talks a lot about the recording process, this quick interview is great: Thanks for sharing this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceesmannl Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Iam hungry for checkmate:) sounds so fkn awesome! Maybe its not nice to say, but i wish the full version leaked:PI believe all other above songs are real, with maybe here and there bits and parts mixed with other stuff.So MSL have some unreleashed stuff yet? or is he faking?cheersPs:This one i didnt noticed before......wooow love it, sounds amazing:DI get more hungry! Edited September 1, 2012 by ceesmannl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 See? People are fucking stupid and believe anything. Cause they WANT to so badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceesmannl Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 See? People are fucking stupid and believe anything. Cause they WANT to so badly.Well its more, that i found it having nice sound and that i think and are almost 100 % sure that its axl voice.....so it isnt so strange to believe that. If its fake ...so be it. But you are a bit to sceptical ! Anyway as you seem to know it all, could you prove that they are fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 This reminds me of the people that insisted "new song #2" was NOT "Prostitute."They all look dumb now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Anyway, if you think the Better Gone remix is easily fakeable with the multitracks you're very, terrible wrong. The mix on that song is super professinonal, not something anyone with Audacity and the multitracks could have done. And also, why the fuck would anyone remix that? Honestly, why would anyone record acoustic guitars, remix with movie quotes and hip-hop beats and leak it in the internet instead of assuming the authorship of something that would take a lot of time and effort? Axl said some of the songs they were working on were very different and people wouldn't understand. Brain TOLD ME, on a published interview I did with him, back on 2010 that he was off the touring band, but was working on "some top secret shit" and then he said "Been doing some cool re-mixes for guns!!! That shit is sick!!! It's gonna rip peoples faces off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (as he described).I guess we disagree. Axl's vocals are pasted on, more so than anything else in Chinese's spotted production. They are super loud and dry just like the stem files from Rockband.This isn't ripping anyone's faces off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 See? People are fucking stupid and believe anything. Cause they WANT to so badly.Well its more, that i found it having nice sound and that i think and are almost 100 % sure that its axl voice.....so it isnt so strange to believe that. If its fake ...so be it. But you are a bit to sceptical ! Anyway as you seem to know it all, could you prove that they are fake?But man, considering the ratio of fake vs. 100% confirmed real leaks during the past decade, is it not you who should be proving the clip is real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 This reminds me of the people that insisted "new song #2" was NOT "Prostitute."They all look dumb now.Exactly. People even though Madagascar leak was fake. Indeed, there are tons of fakes, but every once in a while an actual real song leaks. This is the case on Better Gone.EstrangedTWAT wants so desperately to believe that there are no other songs from the Chinese Democracy session apart from the released at all, of any kind that he just won't give up.Better Gone IS real, Blood In The Water SOUNDS real as well. I KNOW Better Gone is a Brain remix, and I THINK Blood In The Water is a Brain remix as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl8302 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 This reminds me of the people that insisted "new song #2" was NOT "Prostitute."They all look dumb now.Exactly. People even though Madagascar leak was fake. Indeed, there are tons of fakes, but every once in a while an actual real song leaks. This is the case on Better Gone.EstrangedTWAT wants so desperately to believe that there are no other songs from the Chinese Democracy session apart from the released at all, of any kind that he just won't give up.Better Gone IS real, Blood In The Water SOUNDS real as well. I KNOW Better Gone is a Brain remix, and I THINK Blood In The Water is a Brain remix as well.Why are you "agreeing" with him? He thinks it's FAKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 This reminds me of the people that insisted "new song #2" was NOT "Prostitute."They all look dumb now.Exactly. People even though Madagascar leak was fake. Indeed, there are tons of fakes, but every once in a while an actual real song leaks. This is the case on Better Gone.EstrangedTWAT wants so desperately to believe that there are no other songs from the Chinese Democracy session apart from the released at all, of any kind that he just won't give up.Better Gone IS real, Blood In The Water SOUNDS real as well. I KNOW Better Gone is a Brain remix, and I THINK Blood In The Water is a Brain remix as well.Why are you "agreeing" with him? He thinks it's FAKE.John knows it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl8302 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 This reminds me of the people that insisted "new song #2" was NOT "Prostitute."They all look dumb now.Exactly. People even though Madagascar leak was fake. Indeed, there are tons of fakes, but every once in a while an actual real song leaks. This is the case on Better Gone.EstrangedTWAT wants so desperately to believe that there are no other songs from the Chinese Democracy session apart from the released at all, of any kind that he just won't give up.Better Gone IS real, Blood In The Water SOUNDS real as well. I KNOW Better Gone is a Brain remix, and I THINK Blood In The Water is a Brain remix as well.Why are you "agreeing" with him? He thinks it's FAKE.John knows it's real.Why does he say it's fake then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceesmannl Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 See? People are fucking stupid and believe anything. Cause they WANT to so badly.Well its more, that i found it having nice sound and that i think and are almost 100 % sure that its axl voice.....so it isnt so strange to believe that. If its fake ...so be it. But you are a bit to sceptical ! Anyway as you seem to know it all, could you prove that they are fake?But man, considering the ratio of fake vs. 100% confirmed real leaks during the past decade, is it not you who should be proving the clip is real?I think they are real and thats my opinion.... i cant prove, and offcourse i can be wrong, but if a non believer says that we are fucking stupid, then he should be the one to prove we are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I find it interesting -- from a sociological perspective -- that the bigger a fan of New GN'R you are, the more likely you are to believe this is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillageGorillaHead Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Might have been mentioned, but what if this version of 'Blood in the Water' is a remix of the actual version - similar to how 'Better Gone' is? Would explain the 'Prostitute' sounding backing track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuanVictor Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Might have been mentioned, but what if this version of 'Blood in the Water' is a remix of the actual version - similar to how 'Better Gone' is? Would explain the 'Prostitute' sounding backing track.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Might have been mentioned, but what if this version of 'Blood in the Water' is a remix of the actual version - similar to how 'Better Gone' is? Would explain the 'Prostitute' sounding backing track.Good point. Sí señor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The vocals in Blood in the water sounds real. But I think the music is taken from Prostitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The vocals in Blood in the water sounds real. But I think the music is taken from Prostitute.Bingo. That's what I stated years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 That's exactly what I said.Better Gone IS real, Blood In The Water SOUNDS real as well. I KNOW Better Gone is a Brain remix, and I THINK Blood In The Water is a Brain remix as well.It is 100% plausible, makes lot of sense and that's probably what it is, for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I KNOW Better Gone is a Brain remix, How do you KNOW?PROVE IT to the rest of us. Still waiting. Without proof, you don't KNOW shit. You might have a "feeling" or a "belief" or "faith" but that's not the same as having evidence.All you have is a theory. Give us proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) I can understand why manets wont post the emails, I know a little bit about Better Gone and comparing what I knew already about it and what manets told me, it's legit. I know i'm not really providing much insight here or proof, but for what it's worth the whole story behind it isn't really that intriguing surprising. Edited September 2, 2012 by Gunns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) I don't get the Better Gone discussion? It's basically just an edited version of Better with the exact same vocal track as on the CD version of Better. So I don't understand what the discussion is about? Anyone could've made it.. Enlighten me anyone? As for Blood in the water I think the video above says it all.. Not sure where the vocals came from, but the music itself is just samples from Prostitute. A remix, if you will. Edited September 2, 2012 by Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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