Lucky girl Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/celebridades/auto-tune-a-%E2%80%98voz%E2%80%99-da-geracao-2000First sorry for my grammar english mistake. I hope you guys understand me.I read an article by Brazilian´s magazine call "Autotune the voice of 2000's generation". Even you can't read you can see the compilation of videos that show differences between studio and live performance. Videos by Miley Cyrus, Gaga, Rihana, Bieber, Ke$saI love Axl but i´d like to know (just curios) if he did Auto tune ? Edited September 16, 2012 by Lucky girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) No, he didn't maybe some vocal effects (echo and shit like this) but definitely not autotune Edited September 16, 2012 by Crash Diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 In a live setting I don't think he has. However he has used backing tracks at least when they started doing new CD songs in 09/10 like with Shacklers. I also am pretty sure that at least for some shows he uses a slight echo on his voice - he certainty did when I saw him at the LA Forum show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 In a live setting I don't think he has. However he has used backing tracks at least when they started doing new CD songs in 09/10 like with Shacklers. I also am pretty sure that at least for some shows he uses a slight echo on his voice - he certainty did when I saw him at the LA Forum showCorrect. Many of the Chinese songs had backing tracks during 2009/2010. Most have been dropped now as far as I can tell in bootlegs. At the very least, they're much lower in the mix.It's worth pointing out that there is a huge difference between backing tracks and lip syncing before people get going on that debate again. The backing tracks were to cover the layers of vocal harmonies that Axl did with himself on the album. His principle vocal track would be sung live, whereas the backing vocals would be on tape. They have more than enough singers in the band to cover them, but I guess Axl wanted to make it close to the album. Who knows.Echo/delays are used commonly on certain parts. The big scream in Jungle for example. Makes it sound huge. Other than, I don't recall Axl using any live vocal effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Axl would have to answer to The Bitch if he used Autotune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky girl Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Sincerely I suspect when I hear some WTTJ performance...especially when begin...Some performance apparently are so perfect.I don't care if Axl has been doing a little on shows . Because he has over 25 years of career. Naturally couldn't reach some note as beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 In this Day and Age it's actually pretty standard to have at least a bit of pitch correction on vocals, if only to keep it close. A few years back American Idol got in a fake little controversy for autotuning contestants, the pitch correction was too high when a contestant was doing an obnoxious vibrato and you could hear the notes individually as opposed to gradually changing. They apologized, but never really stopped.As for Axl himself, I'm not sure. I remember someone posting a live video asking about this, and it was pretty convincing. He might, wouldn't be surprised if he did, but from the amount of off key fuck ups he has I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl8302 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 In this Day and Age it's actually pretty standard to have at least a bit of pitch correction on vocals, if only to keep it close. A few years back American Idol got in a fake little controversy for autotuning contestants, the pitch correction was too high when a contestant was doing an obnoxious vibrato and you could hear the notes individually as opposed to gradually changing. They apologized, but never really stopped.As for Axl himself, I'm not sure. I remember someone posting a live video asking about this, and it was pretty convincing. He might, wouldn't be surprised if he did, but from the amount of off key fuck ups he has I doubt it.You're not sure.... You think he might... You wouldn't be surprised if he did.... But you doubt it.Thanks for clearing that up for us pal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 In a live setting I don't think he has. However he has used backing tracks at least when they started doing new CD songs in 09/10 like with Shacklers. I also am pretty sure that at least for some shows he uses a slight echo on his voice - he certainty did when I saw him at the LA Forum showCorrect. Many of the Chinese songs had backing tracks during 2009/2010. Most have been dropped now as far as I can tell in bootlegs. At the very least, they're much lower in the mix.It's worth pointing out that there is a huge difference between backing tracks and lip syncing before people get going on that debate again. The backing tracks were to cover the layers of vocal harmonies that Axl did with himself on the album. His principle vocal track would be sung live, whereas the backing vocals would be on tape. They have more than enough singers in the band to cover them, but I guess Axl wanted to make it close to the album. Who knows.Echo/delays are used commonly on certain parts. The big scream in Jungle for example. Makes it sound huge. Other than, I don't recall Axl using any live vocal effects.Yup, great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wait a minute, the jungle scream isn't completely natural??He used to do 30 second intro scream in 06 now he does 10 seconds and now ur saying its delayed so its more epic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wait a minute, the jungle scream isn't completely natural??He used to do 30 second intro scream in 06 now he does 10 seconds and now ur saying its delayed so its more epic?It's natural but it's processed using reverb or delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick83 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Nah guys. Axl is singing natural and raw. If he was even going to attempt to doctor it up, it would be very substantial and noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJones90 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 definitely notnot only would he never do that, but his voice has differed so much. It would always sound the same if he did, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr420 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Theres nothing wrong with a little autotune live. Doesnt matter if he does or doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Mercury's Ghost Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 He uses an echo-type effect on his vocals, but I think most singers do. Scott Weiland used the same effect during his Velvet Revolver performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Theres nothing wrong with a little autotune live. Doesnt matter if he does or doesnt.This.If anything I'd support him doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I always thought he was using something to enhance his range in 01-02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Did he break his AutoTune mic after 2010 or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One.In.A.Million Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 To be honest I don't care what Axl uses, he has sounded awesome all the shows I've seen live. I personally. Don't think he uses anything line that live, but I may be wrong. But I don't care, Axl rules and I will continue to see him live all over the world.!!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Did he break his AutoTune mic after 2010 or something? Maybe the mic company that endorsed him got fed up with sending him a new one 3-4 times a week because he'd just throw it into the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadedNightraiN Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Did he break his AutoTune mic after 2010 or something? Maybe the mic company that endorsed him got fed up with sending him a new one 3-4 times a week because he'd just throw it into the audience.Yeah they hate selling dozens of them to Axl every time he tours... They would hate the profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Wait a minute, the jungle scream isn't completely natural??He used to do 30 second intro scream in 06 now he does 10 seconds and now ur saying its delayed so its more epic?Not quite. It's a very slight delay. You'll notice when he pulls the microphone away from his mouth the scream will "ring out" for about a second more. Overall it makes the scream sound bigger because the slight delay basically adds a second scream (in a sense) on top of the original in real time. It's not uncommon for singers to use it. It's more for show than anything. Jungle, again, is the best example. Both the intro scream and the later "You're gonna die!" scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayGatz Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Nah guys. Axl is singing natural and raw. If he was even going to attempt to doctor it up, it would be very substantial and noticeable.In other words..it would actually sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 FFS why are people trying to justify the use of autotune? It's for kareoke singers on kids tv shows like x factor and pop idol. Of course there's regular of delay and reverb/chorus (as is used on pretty much all live vocals in rock bands) but I've never heard anything which sounded autotuned. If Axl was genuinely struggling on certain tunes then all they'd need to do is transpose them down a step or 2 to accomodate it. Admittedly I haven't seen Guns since 2006 but going by the live footage I've seen his voice sounds pretty natural when hitting notes. If he was having to use autotune live then it would be a bit sad. I know they're totally different styles of singers but when you look at someone like Bruce Dickinson (who's a good few years older) that can still hit all the notes he used to (and actually some now that he couldn't do live in the 80s!) and is very consistent it would make using electronic aids to hit notes seem a bit pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 FFS why are people trying to justify the use of autotune? It's for kareoke singers on kids tv shows like x factor and pop idol. Of course there's regular of delay and reverb/chorus (as is used on pretty much all live vocals in rock bands) but I've never heard anything which sounded autotuned. If Axl was genuinely struggling on certain tunes then all they'd need to do is transpose them down a step or 2 to accomodate it. Admittedly I haven't seen Guns since 2006 but going by the live footage I've seen his voice sounds pretty natural when hitting notes. If he was having to use autotune live then it would be a bit sad. I know they're totally different styles of singers but when you look at someone like Bruce Dickinson (who's a good few years older) that can still hit all the notes he used to (and actually some now that he couldn't do live in the 80s!) and is very consistent it would make using electronic aids to hit notes seem a bit pathetic.thisi doubt axl uses auto tuner if he used it in 2012 it was fucking broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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