Rafał Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) You can always make a 2nd CD with a sort of "You wanted the best, but these didn't make it" feel to it, and make the new vote a "which songs you want on the 2nd CD?" and make people able to vote on any 15 (or maybe limit it to 10) songs that didn't make it. AFD, CD, TSI, singles, whatever they want. And then take 15 (or 10) most voted for. But make people list them from the one they want the most to the one they want the least, and then get the 2nd CD tracklist from that.how about we use these songs from 16th to 30th + another 15 songs from previous album polls that just missed out and then we would get another TOP 15 The Best of the Rest? I'm unsure of the logic I'd follow on these fresh 15 songs though. If I'm to be democratic I'd follow the rankings but I'm not sure that it would make any sense adding more of TSI? seeing it's firmly at the bottom. Maybe since neither GNR Lies nor TSI? have a song in the TOP 15 The Best, I do not add anything more from those albums but add the same ratio of songs from albums that made the top 15 = 7 afd, 6 uyis 2 CD, of course that wouldn't work as AFD has only 12 songs. Any suggestionsI suggest: just let people post 15 (or 10) songs they would like in the "best of", that didn't make it to the top 15. Then you take a look on the songs people posted and take 15 (or 10) that were mentioned in the highest number of posts. Edited September 21, 2012 by Rafał Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 You can always make a 2nd CD with a sort of "You wanted the best, but these didn't make it" feel to it, and make the new vote a "which songs you want on the 2nd CD?" and make people able to vote on any 15 (or maybe limit it to 10) songs that didn't make it. AFD, CD, TSI, singles, whatever they want. And then take 15 (or 10) most voted for. But make people list them from the one they want the most to the one they want the least, and then get the 2nd CD tracklist from that.how about we use these songs from 16th to 30th + another 15 songs from previous album polls that just missed out and then we would get another TOP 15 The Best of the Rest? I'm unsure of the logic I'd follow on these fresh 15 songs though. If I'm to be democratic I'd follow the rankings but I'm not sure that it would make any sense adding more of TSI? seeing it's firmly at the bottom. Maybe since neither GNR Lies nor TSI? have a song in the TOP 15 The Best, I do not add anything more from those albums but add the same ratio of songs from albums that made the top 15 = 7 afd, 6 uyis 2 CD, of course that wouldn't work as AFD has only 12 songs. Any suggestionsI suggest: just let people post 15 (or 10) songs they would like in the "best of", that didn't make it to the top 15. Then you take a look on the songs people posted and take 15 (or 10) that were mentioned in the highest number of posts.I have two problems with that:01. more work for me 02. people would constantly have to check if the song they are listing is already in the original TOP 15I mean why not use the data I already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) standings after 24 votes:01. Estranged - 5,5402. Nightrain - 7,3303. Welcome to the Jungle - 8,4104. Civil War - 8,7505. Sweet Child o' Mine - 9,0406. Rocket Queen - 9,5407. November Rain - 9,8708. You Could Be Mine - 10,6209. Paradise City - 11,9110. Coma - 12,2911. Don't Cry - 12,4112. Better - 13,1213. It's So Easy - 13,1214. There Was a Time - 13,3715. Mr. Brownstone - 13,5416. Patience - 15,717. One in a Million - 16,718. Locomotive - 1719. Dead Horse - 17,5420. Don't Damn Me - 17,5821. You're Crazy (lies) - 17,9122. Shackler's Revenge - 18,0823. Yesterdays - 18,8325. Dust N' Bones - 1924. Prostitute - 19,0426. Down on the Farm - 24,2927. Ain't It Fun - 24,6628. Black Leather - 25,3329. Hair of the Dog - 26,6230. Human Being - 27,33Album stats for TOP 15:01. AFD - 100% - 7/702. UYI2 - 60% - 3/503. UYI1 - 50% - 3/604. CD - 50% - 2/405. LIES - 0% - 0/306. TSI? - 0% - 0/5I've made the decision as to "The Best of the Rest" poll. It will feature residual songs from this list (16 to 30) and another 15 songs according to the ranking each album's songs got on this list (the way things stand now, we'll get another 5 afd songs (basically all the rest), 3 uyi1, 3 uyi2, 1 lies, 0 spaghetti and 2 cd"the best of the rest" poll will start as soon as this one finishes. I will not bump this thread further so the only thing that can keep this thread alive (not fall off the first page of the main section) is further votes for The Best poll. we're at 24 votes total for now Edited September 22, 2012 by the rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 lol 2 CD songs in top 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 lol 2 CD songs in top 15 Yes, it is very hilarious that other people prefer other music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 lol 2 CD songs in top 15 Yes, it is very hilarious that other people prefer other music.That, or the poll has not been opened long enough to receive more votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 isn't it the same for everybody?besides the poll was open (this one still is) right up untill it fell from the first page of the main section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymity Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 01. November Rain02. Coma03. Estranged04. Civil War05. There Was a Time06. Patience07. Don't Cry08. Don't Damn Me09. Dead Horse10. Dust N' Bones11. Paradise City12. Nightrain13. Sweet Child o' Mine14. Yesterdays15. You Could Be Mine16. Welcome to the Jungle17. Ain't It Fun18. Rocket Queen19. Mr Brownstone20. You're Crazy (GNR Lies)21. It's So Easy22. Prostitute23. Better24. Shackler's Revenge25. Locomotive26. One in a Million27. Down on the Farm28. Hair of the Dog29. Black Leather30. Human BeingShame no Breakdown or TIL on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Fucking God how the fuck are you fukcers voting. like CD songs in top 15? I'm cringing. What the fuckl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batalla Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 1- There Was A Time2- Estranged3- November Rain4- Prostitute5- Nightrain6- Coma7- Civil War8- Don't Cry9- Dead Horse10- Paradise City11- Better12- Rocket Queen13- You Could Be Mine14- Welcome to the Jungle15- Yesterdays16- Locomotive17- Sweet Child O' Mine18- One in a Million19- Patience20- Shackler's Revenge21- Don't Damn Me22- You're Crazy (GNR Lies)23- Mr Brownstone24- It's So Easy25- Dust N' Bones26- Ain't it Fun27- Down on the Farm28- Human Being29- Black Leather30- Hair of the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The "new" list should include songs that weren't in your list? SOD and Catcher are way better than the bottom of the barrel from spaghetti incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) The "new" list should include songs that weren't in your list? SOD and Catcher are way better than the bottom of the barrel from spaghetti incident.not so much a "new" list but and additional list. We'll call the first one: The Best or Top 15 pt1; and the second one: The Best of the Rest or Top 15 pt2. Secondly it's not MY list because it's a a list with top ranked songs from each album and since I had no way of knowing how TSI songs would stack up against the rest I had to go with the same model of cut-off points for each album. Now that the first poll answers a few questions, the new 15 songs will still be selected according to the ranking on individual albums we did before but this time the selection will also depend ont THE BEST 30 ranking we are doing now. (I can tell you right now that no new TSI songs will be added)I can answer your question right now and say that Catcher might make it but SOD will definitely not because it is ranked only 9th on CD. Two that will definitely be added are Madagascar and Sorry from CD, while Catcher is borderlineAlso, if TSI occupies the last 5 positions even in the following poll that'll answer even more questions and possibly mean that all future polls will lack songs from TSI? altogether or maybe to include only songs that were written by GNR Edited September 23, 2012 by the rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) Can't believe what a shit list this is. No Breakdown, no Used To Love Her, no Oh My God or 14 Years or Catcher In The Rye?? Those songs are far better than half of the songs that ended up in the top 30. Oh well. Here's my ranking of the shitty list:1. Shacklers Revenge2. November Rain3. Locomotive4. Welcome To The Jungle5. Estranged6. Civil War7. Better8. Don't Cry9. Sweet Child O Mine10. Rocket Queen11. Coma12. Prostitute13. Nightrain14. Human Being15. You Could Be Mine16. There Was A Time17. Mr Brownstone18. Black Leather19. Don't Damn Me20. Yesterdays21. You're Crazy (Lies version)22. Dead Horse23. Patience24. Paradise City25. Hair Of The Dog26. Down On The Farm27. Ain't It Fun28. One In A Million29. It's So Easy30. Dust N Bones Edited September 23, 2012 by Towelie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) Can't believe what a shit list this is. No Breakdown, no Used To Love Her, no Oh My God or 14 Years or Catcher In The Rye?? Those songs are far better than half of the songs that ended up in the top 30. It's a list selected by your forum colleagues. Believe it or not, Breakdown was not ranked so good on UYI2. If you think a song should be on here, it doesn't mean that the majority agree with you. You and all those who think it's a shitty list had the opportunity to change the list by voting in the album pollseven so, the rankings on this list show that the actual choice is not far off the actual best. 7 afd songs in the top 15, 6 uyi and 2 cd songs. Used to love her was ranked below patience million and crazy and none of them are in the top 15 so I don't understand what's your point Edited September 23, 2012 by the rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) standings after 26 votes:01. Estranged - 5,302. Nightrain - 7,4203. Civil War - 8,504. Welcome to the Jungle - 8,9205. November Rain - 9,2606. Sweet Child o' Mine - 9,507. Rocket Queen - 9,9608. You Could Be Mine - 10,8809. Coma - 11,6510. Paradise City - 11,811. Don't Cry - 12,0312. There Was a Time - 12,5713. Better - 13,4214. It's So Easy - 13,8415. Mr. Brownstone - 14,1116. Patience - 15,4617. Dead Horse - 16,8818. One in a Million - 17,1119. Locomotive - 17,2620. Don't Damn Me - 17,3421. You're Crazy (lies) - 18,1522. Shackler's Revenge - 18,3823. Yesterdays - 18,524. Prostitute - 18,5725. Dust N' Bones - 18,8826. Ain't It Fun - 24,4227. Down on the Farm - 24,528. Black Leather - 25,6129. Hair of the Dog - 26,830. Human Being - 27,46Album stats for TOP 15:01. AFD - 100% - 7/702. UYI2 - 60% - 3/503. UYI1 - 50% - 3/604. CD - 50% - 2/405. LIES - 0% - 0/306. TSI? - 0% - 0/5 Edited September 23, 2012 by the rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinaleblood Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 01. Better02. It's So Easy03. You Could Be Mine04. Yesterdays05. Civil War06. Estranged07. Don't Cry08. One in a Million09. Nightrain10. Dust N' Bones11. Locomotive12. Welcome to the Jungle13. There Was a Time14. Shackler's Revenge15. Sweet Child o' Mine16. November Rain17. Ain't It Fun18. Down on the Farm19. Dead Horse20. Mr Brownstone21. Paradise City22. Prostitute23. Patience24. Rocket Queen25. Human Being26. Don't Damn Me27. Coma28. Black Leather29. You're Crazy (GNR Lies)30. Hair of the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB. Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) I am getting angry now. I want One in a Million and Dead Horse in the top 15!I Edited September 23, 2012 by MBRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 1. You Could Be Mine2. Locomotive3. Nightrain4. Paradise City5. It's So Easy6. Welcome To The Jungle7. Sweet Child O' Mine8. Don't Damn Me9. Civil War10. Coma11. You're Crazy (Lies)12. Estranged13. There Was A Time14. Yesterdays15. Don't Cry (Original)16. Down On The Farm17. Hair Of The Dog18. November Rain19. Better20. Patience21. One In A Million22. Dead Horse23. Dust N' Bones24. Rocket Queen25. Black Leather26. Ain't It Fun27. Mr Brownstone28. Human Being29. Shackler's Revenge 30 ProstituteShit, this is hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't believe what a shit list this is. No Breakdown, no Used To Love Her, no Oh My God or 14 Years or Catcher In The Rye?? Those songs are far better than half of the songs that ended up in the top 30. It's a list selected by your forum colleagues. Believe it or not, Breakdown was not ranked so good on UYI2. If you think a song should be on here, it doesn't mean that the majority agree with you. You and all those who think it's a shitty list had the opportunity to change the list by voting in the album pollseven so, the rankings on this list show that the actual choice is not far off the actual best. 7 afd songs in the top 15, 6 uyi and 2 cd songs. Used to love her was ranked below patience million and crazy and none of them are in the top 15 so I don't understand what's your pointThe whole thing is flawed. The worst songs on the UYI albums are better than the best songs from TSI and Lies. I'm sure almost everyone on this forum would agree that songs like Breakdown, Used To Love Her and Catcher In The Rye are more deserving of being in GNR's top 30 than Black Leather and Hair of The Dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't believe what a shit list this is. No Breakdown, no Used To Love Her, no Oh My God or 14 Years or Catcher In The Rye?? Those songs are far better than half of the songs that ended up in the top 30. It's a list selected by your forum colleagues. Believe it or not, Breakdown was not ranked so good on UYI2. If you think a song should be on here, it doesn't mean that the majority agree with you. You and all those who think it's a shitty list had the opportunity to change the list by voting in the album pollseven so, the rankings on this list show that the actual choice is not far off the actual best. 7 afd songs in the top 15, 6 uyi and 2 cd songs. Used to love her was ranked below patience million and crazy and none of them are in the top 15 so I don't understand what's your pointThe whole thing is flawed. The worst songs on the UYI albums are better than the best songs from TSI and Lies. I'm sure almost everyone on this forum would agree that songs like Breakdown, Used To Love Her and Catcher In The Rye are more deserving of being in GNR's top 30 than Black Leather and Hair of The Dog.That's why we have divided the TOP 15 so that potential flaws in the system can be filtered out. TOP 15 is what's important... why do you care about spaghetti songs from 26-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't believe what a shit list this is. No Breakdown, no Used To Love Her, no Oh My God or 14 Years or Catcher In The Rye?? Those songs are far better than half of the songs that ended up in the top 30. It's a list selected by your forum colleagues. Believe it or not, Breakdown was not ranked so good on UYI2. If you think a song should be on here, it doesn't mean that the majority agree with you. You and all those who think it's a shitty list had the opportunity to change the list by voting in the album pollseven so, the rankings on this list show that the actual choice is not far off the actual best. 7 afd songs in the top 15, 6 uyi and 2 cd songs. Used to love her was ranked below patience million and crazy and none of them are in the top 15 so I don't understand what's your pointThe whole thing is flawed. The worst songs on the UYI albums are better than the best songs from TSI and Lies. I'm sure almost everyone on this forum would agree that songs like Breakdown, Used To Love Her and Catcher In The Rye are more deserving of being in GNR's top 30 than Black Leather and Hair of The Dog.That's why we have divided the TOP 15 so that potential flaws in the system can be filtered out. TOP 15 is what's important... why do you care about spaghetti songs from 26-30So you're selecting the top 15 songs that didn't reach the final 30?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't believe what a shit list this is. No Breakdown, no Used To Love Her, no Oh My God or 14 Years or Catcher In The Rye?? Those songs are far better than half of the songs that ended up in the top 30. It's a list selected by your forum colleagues. Believe it or not, Breakdown was not ranked so good on UYI2. If you think a song should be on here, it doesn't mean that the majority agree with you. You and all those who think it's a shitty list had the opportunity to change the list by voting in the album pollseven so, the rankings on this list show that the actual choice is not far off the actual best. 7 afd songs in the top 15, 6 uyi and 2 cd songs. Used to love her was ranked below patience million and crazy and none of them are in the top 15 so I don't understand what's your pointThe whole thing is flawed. The worst songs on the UYI albums are better than the best songs from TSI and Lies. I'm sure almost everyone on this forum would agree that songs like Breakdown, Used To Love Her and Catcher In The Rye are more deserving of being in GNR's top 30 than Black Leather and Hair of The Dog.That's why we have divided the TOP 15 so that potential flaws in the system can be filtered out. TOP 15 is what's important... why do you care about spaghetti songs from 26-30So you're selecting the top 15 songs that didn't reach the final 30??I'm actually coming up with things as I go and when you look at the top 15 you can't really say that it's flawed because all of the albums in the last 30 (except AFD) have songs that are not in the TOP 15, meaning, any song you think is unfairly out of the top 30 wouldn't made it to the TOP 15 as other songs from those albums were ranked higher in the album pollsIn fact, you could say that 16-30 is flawed but 1-15 is certainly notAnd yes I think it's a good idea to have another top 15 pt.2 containing the best songs of the rest (16-30 from this poll + another 15 songs that closely missed out on this final top 30 with the exception that these new songs will be selected from those albums that showed to be more popular, i.e. no new TSI songs added)then after the top 15 pt.1 and top 15 pt.2 if there are any objections, we can clash those two lists to get the ultimate top 15 but I thing that this present Top 15 will pretty much remain the same so it might be futile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rush Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 standings after 29 votes:01. Estranged - 5,5502. Nightrain - 7,5103. Civil War - 8,3104. Welcome to the Jungle - 8,7505. November Rain - 9,5506. Sweet Child o' Mine - 9,5807. You Could Be Mine - 10,4108. Rocket Queen - 10,9309. Don't Cry - 11,8210. Coma - 12,111. Paradise City - 12,2712. There Was a Time - 12,7213. Better - 12,9614. It's So Easy - 13,6515. Mr. Brownstone - 14,8616. Locomotive - 16,0317. Patience - 16,1318. One in a Million - 17,3119. Dead Horse - 17,3120. Don't Damn Me - 17,3721. Yesterdays - 17,8922. Shackler's Revenge - 1823. You're Crazy (lies) - 18,3724. Prostitute - 18,8625. Dust N' Bones - 19,126. Down on the Farm - 24,0327. Ain't It Fun - 24,3128. Black Leather - 25,4129. Hair of the Dog - 26,5130. Human Being - 26,93Album stats for TOP 15:01. AFD - 100% - 7/702. UYI2 - 60% - 3/503. UYI1 - 50% - 3/604. CD - 50% - 2/405. LIES - 0% - 0/306. TSI? - 0% - 0/5Top 15 is stable for quite a while although Locomotive is slowly climbing and Mr Brownstone is slowly falling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rose_dawson7 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 01. There Was A Time02. Locomotive03. Don't Damn Me04. Ain't It Fun05. Coma06. Civil War07. Dust N' Bones08. You're Crazy (Lies)09. It's So Easy10. Better11. Rocket Queen12. Shackler's Revenge13. Patience14. Estranged15. Prostitute16. Down on the Farm17. Welcome To The Jungle18. November Rain19. Don't Cry20. You Could Be Mine21. Nightrain22. One In A Million23. Dead Horse24. Yesterdays25. Sweet Child O' Mine26. Paradise City27. Mr. Brownstone28. Human Being29. Hair of the Dog30. Black Leather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thanks for doing the poll.How does your point total work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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