izzydoezit Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Extremely fatiguing for the eyes. Especially people that spend a lot of time in here. Please change that. It's unbelievably bad for reading. Is there a way I can change it??? Help please. Edited September 24, 2012 by izzydoezit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I actually think this is easier on the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I actually think this is easier on the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I actually think this is easier on the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I don't think there's a way to change it, but HV would know that for certain.I have to agree with everyone else - I think the white on dark grey theme is pretty relaxing on my eyes. Never even thought about it til you brought it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) i might be mistaken but isn't there a way to personalize the look of the forum? Edited September 25, 2012 by sweetness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzydoezit Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 However, most studies have shown that dark characters on a light background are superior to light characters on a dark background (when the refresh rate is fairly high). For example, Bauer and Cavonius (1980) found that participants were 26% more accurate in reading text when they read it with dark characters on a light background.Reference: Bauer, D., & Cavonius, C., R. (1980). Improving the legibility of visual display units through contrast reversal. In E. Grandjean, E. Vigliani (Eds.), Ergonomic Aspects of Visual Display Terminals (pp. 137-142). London: Taylor & FrancisHall and Hanna (2004) examined how colour combination affects readability and retention by experimenting on 186 test subjects. They found that both the readability scores (measured subjectively through a questionnaire) and the retention scores (measured through a quiz) were higher (i.e. better) when the text was displayed black on white as opposed to white on black.Buchner and Baumgartner (2007) performed a similar experiment on 80 test subjects, except they measured the subject's performance on a proofreading task on a TFT display (Hall & Hanna did not mention the type of display they used). Buchner and Baumgartner arrived at a similar conclusion, with users consistently achieving higher proofreading scores when a black-on-white colour scheme was used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 However, most studies have shown that dark characters on a light background are superior to light characters on a dark background (when the refresh rate is fairly high). For example, Bauer and Cavonius (1980) found that participants were 26% more accurate in reading text when they read it with dark characters on a light background.Reference: Bauer, D., & Cavonius, C., R. (1980). Improving the legibility of visual display units through contrast reversal. In E. Grandjean, E. Vigliani (Eds.), Ergonomic Aspects of Visual Display Terminals (pp. 137-142). London: Taylor & FrancisHall and Hanna (2004) examined how colour combination affects readability and retention by experimenting on 186 test subjects. They found that both the readability scores (measured subjectively through a questionnaire) and the retention scores (measured through a quiz) were higher (i.e. better) when the text was displayed black on white as opposed to white on black.Buchner and Baumgartner (2007) performed a similar experiment on 80 test subjects, except they measured the subject's performance on a proofreading task on a TFT display (Hall & Hanna did not mention the type of display they used). Buchner and Baumgartner arrived at a similar conclusion, with users consistently achieving higher proofreading scores when a black-on-white colour scheme was used.I don'g give a crap about your studies. I like it. And there have rarely been any complaints about it in about 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzydoezit Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 However, most studies have shown that dark characters on a light background are superior to light characters on a dark background (when the refresh rate is fairly high). For example, Bauer and Cavonius (1980) found that participants were 26% more accurate in reading text when they read it with dark characters on a light background.Reference: Bauer, D., & Cavonius, C., R. (1980). Improving the legibility of visual display units through contrast reversal. In E. Grandjean, E. Vigliani (Eds.), Ergonomic Aspects of Visual Display Terminals (pp. 137-142). London: Taylor & FrancisHall and Hanna (2004) examined how colour combination affects readability and retention by experimenting on 186 test subjects. They found that both the readability scores (measured subjectively through a questionnaire) and the retention scores (measured through a quiz) were higher (i.e. better) when the text was displayed black on white as opposed to white on black.Buchner and Baumgartner (2007) performed a similar experiment on 80 test subjects, except they measured the subject's performance on a proofreading task on a TFT display (Hall & Hanna did not mention the type of display they used). Buchner and Baumgartner arrived at a similar conclusion, with users consistently achieving higher proofreading scores when a black-on-white colour scheme was used.I don'g give a crap about your studies. I like it. And there have rarely been any complaints about it in about 10 years.who gives a fuck what you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I think they were talking about alternative skins for the forum, but there should be some big update to a new version of the forum first. If I recall correctly, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiannaRose Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 However, most studies have shown that dark characters on a light background are superior to light characters on a dark background (when the refresh rate is fairly high). For example, Bauer and Cavonius (1980) found that participants were 26% more accurate in reading text when they read it with dark characters on a light background.Reference: Bauer, D., & Cavonius, C., R. (1980). Improving the legibility of visual display units through contrast reversal. In E. Grandjean, E. Vigliani (Eds.), Ergonomic Aspects of Visual Display Terminals (pp. 137-142). London: Taylor & FrancisHall and Hanna (2004) examined how colour combination affects readability and retention by experimenting on 186 test subjects. They found that both the readability scores (measured subjectively through a questionnaire) and the retention scores (measured through a quiz) were higher (i.e. better) when the text was displayed black on white as opposed to white on black.Buchner and Baumgartner (2007) performed a similar experiment on 80 test subjects, except they measured the subject's performance on a proofreading task on a TFT display (Hall & Hanna did not mention the type of display they used). Buchner and Baumgartner arrived at a similar conclusion, with users consistently achieving higher proofreading scores when a black-on-white colour scheme was used.I don'g give a crap about your studies. I like it. And there have rarely been any complaints about it in about 10 years.Not cool, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailaway Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I actually think this is easier on the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think the white on dark grey theme is pretty relaxing on my eyes. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think the white on dark grey theme is pretty relaxing on my eyes. Same here.MYGNR is boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dariablue Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think they were talking about alternative skins for the forum, but there should be some big update to a new version of the forum first. If I recall correctly, that is.I thought they were too expensive to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The skin selector might be disabled at the moment (it's there for me, but maybe not for members), but we'll support switching to the default skin (light blue) next upgrade.Yeah, you're right that for the most part, a black background with white text isn't great for readability - but we're grey and white/yellow here and that's a subtle difference that actually makes a big impact.I don't think we've had many (if any) complaints about the site's readability over the years - you may have an astigmatism or something that makes it difficult for you to read. I think the whole idea of contrast and readability is very subjective and it's simply because everyone's eyes are different. The solution is to give people to option to switch to a lighter skin if they want, which we have in the past and will in the future - but the default skin is going to stay more or less the same. A dark skin is more in line with the site's audience, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiannaRose Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) The skin selector might be disabled at the moment (it's there for me, but maybe not for members), but we'll support switching to the default skin (light blue) next upgrade.Yeah, you're right that for the most part, a black background with white text isn't great for readability - but we're grey and white/yellow here and that's a subtle difference that actually makes a big impact.I don't think we've had many (if any) complaints about the site's readability over the years - you may have an astigmatism or something that makes it difficult for you to read. I think the whole idea of contrast and readability is very subjective and it's simply because everyone's eyes are different. The solution is to give people to option to switch to a lighter skin if they want, which we have in the past and will in the future - but the default skin is going to stay more or less the same. A dark skin is more in line with the site's audience, IMO.I just remembered that I helped Eric design a red, 'Chinese Democracy' themed skin for the forum back in 2004. I wonder what happened to it. Edited September 27, 2012 by IndiannaRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 The skin selector might be disabled at the moment (it's there for me, but maybe not for members), but we'll support switching to the default skin (light blue) next upgrade.Yeah, you're right that for the most part, a black background with white text isn't great for readability - but we're grey and white/yellow here and that's a subtle difference that actually makes a big impact.I don't think we've had many (if any) complaints about the site's readability over the years - you may have an astigmatism or something that makes it difficult for you to read. I think the whole idea of contrast and readability is very subjective and it's simply because everyone's eyes are different. The solution is to give people to option to switch to a lighter skin if they want, which we have in the past and will in the future - but the default skin is going to stay more or less the same. A dark skin is more in line with the site's audience, IMO.I just remembered that I helped Eric design a red, 'Chinese Democracy' themed skin for the forum back in 2004. I wonder what happened to it. It's still on the server somewhere. I can download it and send you a copy if you want it. Won't work with the current board software though obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiannaRose Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 The skin selector might be disabled at the moment (it's there for me, but maybe not for members), but we'll support switching to the default skin (light blue) next upgrade.Yeah, you're right that for the most part, a black background with white text isn't great for readability - but we're grey and white/yellow here and that's a subtle difference that actually makes a big impact.I don't think we've had many (if any) complaints about the site's readability over the years - you may have an astigmatism or something that makes it difficult for you to read. I think the whole idea of contrast and readability is very subjective and it's simply because everyone's eyes are different. The solution is to give people to option to switch to a lighter skin if they want, which we have in the past and will in the future - but the default skin is going to stay more or less the same. A dark skin is more in line with the site's audience, IMO.I just remembered that I helped Eric design a red, 'Chinese Democracy' themed skin for the forum back in 2004. I wonder what happened to it. It's still on the server somewhere. I can download it and send you a copy if you want it. Won't work with the current board software though obviously.For sure, that'd be sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic56 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 You spell AWFUL like this , NOT aweful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzydoezit Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 You spell AWFUL like this , NOT awefulthanks for the spelling lesson man English is not my first language so I'm trying my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 You spell AWFUL like this , NOT awefulthanks for the spelling lesson man English is not my first language so I'm trying my best.To be fair, your spelling 'error' is not bad at all. Awful (Awe Full), once upon a time, meant the opposite to what it means now. The word 'awesome' is what awful meant hundreds of years ago.For some reason, humans like to play with language, and very often the opposite of what a word means becomes it's meaning hundreds of years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 When I first started to checking out GNR forums I thought this one was the best not only because of the very entertaining content and characters but because it was the best visually to look at. It's a really comfortable format IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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