Ali Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that the 2009-2010 Tour did such a number on his throat that he took steps to try and retire the rasp all together? It has been used so sparingly since then that perhaps just maybe this could be the case? Like he wanted to go out and prove the critics wrong soo bad that he just over did it and realized he just couldn't do it anymore.I think he is making a conscious decision to not close his throat and/or strain his chest voice in such a way that he induces a raspy sound because of the potential for decreased vocal endurance over the course of a show and a tour.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that the 2009-2010 Tour did such a number on his throat that he took steps to try and retire the rasp all together? It has been used so sparingly since then that perhaps just maybe this could be the case? Like he wanted to go out and prove the critics wrong soo bad that he just over did it and realized he just couldn't do it anymore.I think he is making a conscious decision to not close his throat and/or strain his chest voice in such a way that he induces a raspy sound because of the potential for decreased vocal endurance over the course of a show and a tour.AliMe too.. I also am beginning to think that his clean voice has changed so much as he's aged that's why the songs we listened to on the albums become almost unrecognizable. Especially the higher pitched voice. Don't cry for example... theres a video on youtube from 1985 where he sings it cleanly and it still sounds like Axl... however in 2011 doing the same exact technique it just doesn't sound the same. I give Axl credit. Where as other singers change the key of their songs to compensate, he stays in the same key as when he recorded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Still no video of Don't Let It Bring You Down?! COME ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Any vids of Better Gone yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForGnR Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Oh my.. What happened to Axl Rose? My childhood hero! My favorite rockstar of all time! I see someone resembling him hiding behind sunglasses and a hat giving off some thin and weak squeals when he's supposed to sing. I'm sad from watching this 'performance'. If he's sick, I hope that's part of the reason, or mostly the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Everyone applauded when Young took over lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveysham Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 For all the smartass sceptics, strep throat only takes three days to recover from, you can recover in 16 hours if you have antibiotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonMexico82 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 That was sad to hear. When Neil comes in you can tell there is a massive volume difference alone. Axl has no power AT ALL. Maybe if he genuinely has a problem beyond strep Neil can recommend someone that can help him fix his voice. If it stays like this he'll never get through Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that the 2009-2010 Tour did such a number on his throat that he took steps to try and retire the rasp all together? It has been used so sparingly since then that perhaps just maybe this could be the case? Like he wanted to go out and prove the critics wrong soo bad that he just over did it and realized he just couldn't do it anymore.I think he is making a conscious decision to not close his throat and/or strain his chest voice in such a way that he induces a raspy sound because of the potential for decreased vocal endurance over the course of a show and a tour.AliMe too.. I also am beginning to think that his clean voice has changed so much as he's aged that's why the songs we listened to on the albums become almost unrecognizable. Especially the higher pitched voice. Don't cry for example... theres a video on youtube from 1985 where he sings it cleanly and it still sounds like Axl... however in 2011 doing the same exact technique it just doesn't sound the same. I give Axl credit. Where as other singers change the key of their songs to compensate, he stays in the same key as when he recorded it.It's not really that his clean voice has changed. It's that he doesn't strain his chest voice or his blended chest/head voice to hit certain notes. I think he slips more into his head voice to hit certain notes in his overall range because it is less taxing overall on his vocal cords.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Man Axl is a legend, he should just step down for a while and just see his accomplishments; rest his voice and get in shape and get the ball rolling.then maybe axl should announce on jimmy kimmel he's postponing the vegas residency until his voice is 1000 percent ready to goI actually wish Axl would do that but I know he wont and he will keep ruining his voice and keep playing with band mates that are beneath him. Sad really...well. on the flip side. axl has to consider all the tickets already sold and money paid. there's a lot of money on the line for vegas residency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 After listening to that, I truly believe Axl has strep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 After listening to that, I truly believe Axl has strep.After defending him for so long I honestly am starting to believe that he just sits around taking all this for granted and doesn't even keep himself in shape. Then when his fans are disappointed, he uses strep throat as an excuse.I mean if he was in shape chances are he wouldn't even get strep throat. But I may be overreacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR123GNR456 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 After listening to that, I truly believe Axl has strep.After defending him for so long I honestly am starting to believe that he just sits around taking all this for granted and doesn't even keep himself in shape. Then when his fans are disappointed, he uses strep throat as an excuse.I mean if he was in shape chances are he wouldn't even get strep throat. But I may be overreacting.You've finally seen the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Like I said though - I'm going to give him until halfway through Vegas, to the end, to see how he is. If he sounds the same as he did at Bridge School, I'll believe that his voice is actually shot.I think others should do the same rather than telling him to hang up the towel now. A ton of people did the same thing after Rio, then in a couple of weeks he was back in good form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haters Gonna Hate Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 After listening to that, I truly believe Axl has strep.After defending him for so long I honestly am starting to believe that he just sits around taking all this for granted and doesn't even keep himself in shape. Then when his fans are disappointed, he uses strep throat as an excuse.I mean if he was in shape chances are he wouldn't even get strep throat. But I may be overreacting.You've finally seen the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 After listening to that, I truly believe Axl has strep.so axl had strep for both shows. well. sometimes it takes more than rest and some antibiotics to treat strep. looks like axl might have an acute case of strep. if axl has a case like this...vegas residency should be postponed. because if axl pushes it in vegas like he tried to do at these benefit shows with strep...his vocal chords will get worse and his voice and throat will deteriorate. which leads to infection and worse. you don't want to sing in front of an audience with strep. it puts your voice and throat at serious risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow Neil blew Axl away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haters Gonna Hate Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow Neil blew Axl away.I think I could of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonMexico82 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And he is 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianGNR Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Some ass said that axl has no power... Listen to 4:20.Also, he had a lot of rasp in the end of SCOM than in any of 2012 show.edit: axl has changed the way of singing UTLH also. Great! Edited October 22, 2012 by ChrisMaciel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuanVictor Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Used To Love Her with 2006 voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Some ass said that axl has no power... Listen to 4:20.Also, he had a lot of rasp in the end of SCOM than in any of 2012 show.edit: axl has changed the way of singing UTLH also. Great!Gotta agree although SCOM was still pretty pitiful... But the end of Patience just proves that Axl can still pull a high-pitched raspy voice when we wants too - though it seems more forced and less natural than when he did it back in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Money Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think Axl was foolish not to change his set list to something a little more manageable. Those songs are difficult for damaged vocal chords/ throat problems. He's got a great natural voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un42nutzly Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Gotta say, hearing Axl and Neil harmonizing is simply amazing. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXzilla Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Some ass said that axl has no power... Listen to 4:20.Also, he had a lot of rasp in the end of SCOM than in any of 2012 show.edit: axl has changed the way of singing UTLH also. Great!Gotta agree although SCOM was still pretty pitiful... But the end of Patience just proves that Axl can still pull a high-pitched raspy voice when we wants too - though it seems more forced and less natural than when he did it back in 2010.wow, that patience sounded awesome...but like many have said the entire set was pretty bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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