Do you think a band will ever shake the world again?

[wasted]

Like GNR, Nirvana, Oasis even the The Strokes did?

I'm not saying there isn't good music, but what about a group of drugged addicted bad asses that sell 30 million records?

Or is it all played out and Shrillex is the future.

Edited November 19, 2012 by wasted

[Jakey Styley]

Not one bit.

[sweetness]

I think it's possible, but with the internet and music being so niche nowadays I think it's highly unlikely

[Carne_asaDA]

Like GNR, Nirvana, Oasis even the The Strokes did?

I'm not saying there isn't good music, but what about a group of drugged addicted bad asses that sell 30 million records?

Or is it all played out and Shrillex is the future.

The Strokes?? Really??

To answer your question. No. Only because music isn't important to masses of kids today as it was for those born in the early 80's and older.

Edited November 19, 2012 by Carne_asaDA

[Zint]

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[wasted]

there's was a buzz around the Strokes but yeah they didn't really go postal. they didnt make a spectacle of themselves. It's kind of the point where I started to think it would never happen, they decided to just keep it low key.

At the moment the way it's set up only established bands have a chance. the market just isnt there anymore to support it.

[Rovim]

I think another Radiohead scaled 'shake' is possible. It depends on the music industry. If they can find a way to be relevant again, or come up with a brand new way to actually sell music again.

Of course it's always the people that need to want it, and to relate to it. I think it will happen, but maybe not soon.

[Chewbacca]

Yeah, we could use another musical movement, I mean, grunge was the last big thing and that was 20 years ago. Time to move on, I guess... and no, I don't think there won't any new eath shaking band. Forever is too long.

[dalsh327]

Are people waiting on a next big thing to happen? People used to play just to entertain themselves and friends. Girls still get attracted to a guy on stage, there's still ways to make money playing an instrument, it's just when you get the right group of people together who are hell bent on the same goal that the magic happens, whether it's GNR, Beatles,Queen, or the Pistols, Clash, Radiohead or Nirvana. There's enough stories told on how they did it at the time, and what mistakes they made along the way. If anything, the access to how to do it's all out there, but finding the magic and chemistry it it's prob. the hardest part.

But what you don't have are bands taking popular songs and making it their own distinct sound. And that's the common thread of great bands.

[wasted]

are all the hard rocking badasses playing Call of Duty?

Where's the band that is basically a copy of GNR but just way more extreme and fucked up and real. Like GNR were to Aerosmith.

[Randy Lahey]

That sort of band would probably be ridiculed by TMZ and booked for Celebrity Rehab after their first album.

[wasted]

people can only handle straight ahead rock now if it's a comedy band like The Darkness or Steel Panther.

I guess rock n roll excess is played out. It's so banal now like every celeb is in rehab.

[wfse]

Muse

[wasted]

Muse

they seem more like more a cerebral experience like Radiohead. they arent a band of the people.

[Bumble's Bridge Pickup]

One Direction

[Redhead74]

I think we have to wait for music to come full circle again. It goes through patterns and the the Internet has made so many niche artists take attention away from the big players. Innovation also takes time and is a response to everything else that's going on so it's only a matter of time before someone comes along that really shakes things up and excites people again. But when that happens who knows how it will impact on the music industry as a whole?

[wasted]

Not much seems to break into the mainstream now. I'm sure there's bands out there but the media has a strangle hold. To actually become known there's so much work to do I don't how they would have time to make music. It's like 90% image 10% music. The more generic a band the better they do for a while then replaced by the next one. maybe I'm being too negative again.

[Redhead74]

No, maybe it's the younger generation of music listeners? I mean, they are the main force that can propel a pop or rock artist to success. And really, when it all boils down, the record companies and radio stations will only do the bare minimum to keep them happy. I think you have a point about the 90% image, 10% music ratio. Many other creative industries work with the same ratio.

[Guest Len B'stard]

Not if it's fuckin' rock n roll it won't. Times have changed, the worlds moved on and basically, people over tween age ain't of the...inclination to be having this kind of mass-falling-in-love with some kinda fuckin' band or music artist, i just don't think the worlds geared that way no more.

And quite frankly, looking at 18 yr olds and 16 yr olds and where there heads at, i'm damn near 30 years old, i doubt i'd even like what kids these days'll like. I mean the projections are hardly positive are they, whats big these days, Katy Perry, Justin Beiber, Rihanna, who wants to listen to that anyway?

I'm too old to give a fuck about the next big thing or even probably particularly be entertained by something like that i mean, i got a fuckin' life to lead and album, with me, is gonna listened to and if it's good listened to a fair bit but i ain't fuckin' exactly gonna go fuckin' stickin' posters on my wall or any of that shit.

Somethings happening to me in general where, i dunno if my interest in music is dying or it's symptomatic of me getting fuckin' old or something but...i honestly couldn't give a fuck anymore? Like Crossfire Hurricane came out, a few years ago i'd've been all over it, watching it a thousand times and doing anything i can possibly do to go see the fuckin' Stones but...i honestly couldn't give a fuck? I watched like 45 minutes of it and it just occured to me, what the fuck am i watching this for, i KNOW this story, i read it and watched it and seen it 50 bajillion fuckin' times and it just...the whole enterprise just seemed so ridiculous to me? Lots of kids screaming, a couple of above average intelligence lads saying very simple things on camera that the documentary-maker is clearly trying to suggest is some form of haphazard profundity...the older i get the more ridiculous it all starts to seem, the more puerile and cynical and generally quite boring it's all started to seem, i ended up turning it off, which is amazing for me, i never do that, especially not to The Stones.

Also, i think, we're at a point in history where everybody knows where it's gonna go, no ones gonna change your fuckin' life, there's not gonna be any fucking revolution, no ones heralding in a brave new world, we had about 3 generations of rock n rollers and they all go the same fuckin' way, they end up, if they're lucky, at best, like The Stones, filling their pockets for a last hurrah 50 years down the trough before they're off into the wide blue yonder, cackling and counting their pennys while you bunk home on the train with a headful of images of old men that you recognise a bit, feeling slightly depressed

It's like One Direction has come out now and i bet for loads of little girls, and God bless em y'know, ain't havin' a dig but for loads of little girls thats probably like the most amazing thing ever but like...i'm sorry but i've seen The Spice Girls, i've seen BSB, i've seen Take That, i've seen Boyzone, i know EXACTLY where One Direction are headed, receding hairlines and judging fuckin' X Factor, thats where they're headed.

But the fundamental issue here is that, basically, mythology and music are on an even footing to make these like, giants of our culture and without the mythology music isn't enough for that HUGE overboard fame explosion thing, you need the image, the mythology and quite frankly, no one believes that shit anymore, been round that block already a few times now, it's kind of obvious.

And how can you build mystique these days, everyones on fuckin' facebook or twatter, we're fuckin' like, privvy to how many teaspoons of sugar they have in their tea and whether they use Andrex or yesterdays papers, our mystique-fuelled interest in these people has made it so, with the advent of technology, we're watching these cunts like hawks so like, yeah, mystique? Not no more there ain't.

No one is that mystical anymore, no one is that 'scary' anymore, y'know, there might've been a time where Mick and the boys looked like little Satanic pariahs coming to fuck your daughter and drop fag ash on your carpet and forget to say please when asking for seconds but no one finds that particularly scary anymore, shit, more mums probably fancy that image than daughters these days

Also, no one gives a flyng fuck about art Sorry but it's true! Your average person, your working class fella on the street, couldn't give a flying fuck about fuckin' concept albums and interpreting songs etc etc, they want a flat screen and a fit bird...and thats it.

Mass fuckin' youth culture, who needs it anyway? I've come to the conclusion that "the yoof", em masse, are almost as big a bunch of cunts as I am. I don't think i'd really care if another band shook up the world and i think enough people are of that opinion to ensure that it won't happen again, least not for a long while.

Edited November 19, 2012 by sugaraylen

[Chinaski]

Maybe the next massive world-shattering act will coincide with the next development in the music industry. At the moment it's hard to find a balance. How do they have that impact now?

Maybe the industry will sort itself out a bit and it'll conveniently aline with a great act coming along.Like when they work out how to send music straight into our brains or something the first great band to come along will be put into everyone's brain and will be inescapable.

[Redhead74]

Shit Lenny, so what you're really saying is that given the fact that i was around for original lineup GNR, I'm SO old to have actually experienced for real a band that took over the world, (OK, may not be The Stones, but they did take over the world for a time) the likes of which we will never see happen again. I don't know whether I'm ecstatic or bitterly depressed?

[Guest Len B'stard]

See the issue arises when people labour under the presumption that the history of music has always followed the formula laid out post Elvis which simply isn't true. Music wasn't always this huge organised lucrative thing, it became so and has only been so for 50 or so years and now it's petering off. Looking at it in a broader sense, perhaps that was just a period in history and music is gonna go back to the position that it used to occupy in culture, where it wasn't this huge money-spinning thing?

Edited November 19, 2012 by sugaraylen

[Redhead74]

I don't know, I'd like to hope it could. It would be great if ANYTHING could exist in this world without having to be a money spinner. It seems like the corporate machine has infiltrated every single thing we do on this planet. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I find it hard to see how any of it could go back to a previous type of existence. Sport used to be the same thing. Now it's all slowly getting ruined by salaries and sponsorship deals and contracts. All the fun gets taken out of it along the way.

[DieselDaisy]

Grunge was the last big rock movement. Britpop was too derivitive and didn't catch on with the Americans. Nu-metal was fairly big - and fairly original in about 1995 when Korn first appeared- but sort of turned into a rap-rock thing (Limp Bicuits and paparoach) and promptly vanished; it is now universally hated. Besides, it was mostly ripping of RATM. After that I do not know really know. These bands like The Killer, newer rock bands, are mostly doing a beatles stroke mod revival to my ears. Is this considered a distinct 'movement'?

[izzygirl]

Muse

Yep, and Justin Bieber too but it's not the same.