HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 all joking about vegas aside, does the residency represent a new high water mark for post HOF / new GNR? i think so. it was well publicized and well attended. no riots, cancellations or stupid pointless shit. no line-up changes either before or after. management didn't quit and need to be replaced. axl got on tv and did some interviews. the rest of the 'band' got out there and did some publicity too. reviews were positive across the board.most importantly, i think axl is in a better place professionally after the residency than he was before it. and i don't think that can be said of some of his previous treks, which i think damaged his reputation as an bookable act (rio, 2k2, etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I just don't c them doing anything worth talking about for a while. Gig threads. That's it. They're getting tiring. I don't c the stint in Vegas aa anything special. Nrrd leaks or an album. Qith axls voice going the way it has been I really think the excitement of a reunion would b less than incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The last thing Axl needs is to become a solid boring reliable nostalgia circuit act. That is the fastest route to irrelevancy. Unfortunately that is what it looks like he has settled for now that it is blatantly obvious that there is no hope of any further material for the foreseeable future. The only thing that kept Axl somewhat relevant was the air of mystery surrounding CD and the multiple public fuck-ups along the way that kept people talking about him, even if 90% of that talk was ridicule. He hasn't even got that going for him now. He's become a boring old codger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) but i feel like with cd and all the talk of a new gnr, he was fatally over-reaching. it was destined to tank. destined to further sink axl into depression.but this is a level i think he's comfortable on. this is a level on which he can totally deliver the goods. he may not be relevant or popular compared to his prime, but isn't that expecting a little much? being a nostalgia act is nothing to scoff at. that's an awesome accomplishment.personally, i'd be quite happy with a couple of months of vegas shows, then a few big international festivals a year. maybe a summer megatour with poison, crue or def leppard. Edited December 4, 2012 by HisRoyalSweetness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 What was so special about Vegas? playing the same mix of old songs and covers as the past 10 years...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 meeting expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 all joking about vegas aside, does the residency represent a new high water mark for post HOF / new GNR?i think so. it was well publicized and well attended. no riots, cancellations or stupid pointless shit.most importantly, i think axl is in a better place professionally after the residency than he was before it.I think you can't really draw any conclusions based on attendance. It was at a Vegas casino, safe to say many of the tickets were comped and walkup sales were strong because a lot of the attendees happened to already be there. Riots and cancellations? Those days are long gone, the band has matured with age.Axl was already in a good place during the summer tour to Europe and Israel, he had a lot of fun and was in good spirits with the fans. I kinda think you're reading too much into the residency. It was great and I wish I could have been there, but it wasn't groundbreaking and really doesn't represent any kind of a turning point. Just a bunch of really good shows, no different than the past few tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The Vegas residency represented an ego massage for Mr Rose and a ca$h grab. Next stop, India.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 groundbreaking is not what i'm looking for from a 50 year old rock star from the 80's. if it is, then i'd suggest you're only setting yourself up for further disappointments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 It was a nice run of shows with a built in audience as the turnover rate of people there is constant and entertainment is the bread and butter for Vegas to draw gambling but it was the same shit different day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) Good: Solid shows, a couple new covers, brought in two popular CD songs, Axl sang well at the end, band played well.Bad: No new songs, Axl's voice was weak the first few shows, attendance wasn't great, now playing weddings and the same special shows as motley crue def leppard, why add two new covers to the set when you supposedly have a ton of new music in the library.Like classic said. Same sh*t, different day. At the end of the day, this was just an extension of the ongoing tour. Nothing new and exciting, but for the most part, the boys still put on a good show.The worlds most dangerous band has turned into the worlds safest band. Edited December 4, 2012 by Groghan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 i think people are way more aware that axl's out with a new band. and the buzz is good. not laughably terrible, like vma's, rio or the other few instances when axl has registered a blip on the radar of today's pop culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 groundbreaking is not what i'm looking for from a 50 year old rock star from the 80's. if it is, then i'd suggest you're only setting yourself up for further disappointments.So then what makes you think it represented a new high water mark? What happened in Vegas that you were looking for from a 50 year old rock star? The residency has been summed up and recapped in several threads, I don't recall any other people saying it represented the best period of GNR since the mid-90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 groundbreaking is not what i'm looking for from a 50 year old rock star from the 80's. if it is, then i'd suggest you're only setting yourself up for further disappointments.So then what makes you think it represented a new high water mark? What happened in Vegas that you were looking for from a 50 year old rock star? The residency has been summed up and recapped in several threads, I don't recall any other people saying it represented the best period of GNR since the mid-90's.professionalism. or at least more of it. playing ball with the media, doing promotions and getting good reviews. if feel like your unreasonably high expectations for axl have been an unfair albatross around his neck. the only people expecting axl rose to reinvent the wheel this late in his career are you few weirdos on the internet. everyone else is just happy to see the wheel rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 If you're happy with wat has been going on lately u really aren't a huge fan. I crave Nrw music so bad…… ill c rm when they come to me but nrvqer again will o travel to nyc or Vegas to c ax if there isn't new material or a reunion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 professionalism. or at least more of it. playing ball with the media, doing promotions and getting good reviews.if feel like your unreasonably high expectations for axl have been an unfair albatross around his neck.the only people expecting axl rose to reinvent the wheel this late in his career are you few weirdos on the internet. everyone else is just happy to see the wheel rolling.Dude, you've got the wrong guy here. I have no high expectations of the band, or any expectations for that matter. I've always had a "It is what it is" attitude with them. If you think one brief puff piece on Kimmel and the fact there were no riots or cancellations is proof that they are now demonstrating professionalism, then I'm happy that you're happy. I just think that you're setting the bar a tad bit low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 professionalism. or at least more of it. playing ball with the media, doing promotions and getting good reviews.if feel like your unreasonably high expectations for axl have been an unfair albatross around his neck.the only people expecting axl rose to reinvent the wheel this late in his career are you few weirdos on the internet. everyone else is just happy to see the wheel rolling.Dude, you've got the wrong guy here. I have no high expectations of the band, or any expectations for that matter. I've always had a "It is what it is" attitude with them. If you think one brief puff piece on Kimmel and the fact there were no riots or cancellations is proof that they are now demonstrating professionalism, then I'm happy that you're happy. I just think that you're setting the bar a tad bit low. 'setting the bar low' is a glass-half-empty way of looking at it. i choose to see it as 'setting the bar as high as can reasonably expected at this point.' but a win is still a win. and i think vegas was a big win. i don't think you can point to many big wins in the history of new gnr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Peopke are just nore comfortable with GNR as a nostalgia act. Its how weve been programmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 i don't think you can point to many big wins in the history of new gnr.Rock In Rio 32002 Video Music AwardsRelease of Chinese DemocracyDuff & Izzy performing with GNR for the first time in decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 right. like i said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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