Bumblefoot: “We didn’t record in Vegas. I don’t know about future music or dvd releases. I don’t know if we’ll tour next year. It’s outta my hands."

[SoulMonster]

I think you have to be careful when you use terms like "the band." To what part of "the band" are you referring to?

The whole band.

I have no doubt that guys like DJ, Bumble, Frank and anyone else who didn't have much to do with Chinese Democracy was interested in recording.

And I have no doubt that Richard, Chris, Dizzy, Tommy and Axl wanted to record, too. But for some reason, probably something with Axl, it didn't happen.

But was Axl? Did Axl have any interest in recording with his fellow bandmates?

I doubt the other guys would plan and arrange recording if Axl wasn't interested in what they were doing, or motivated to join them.

If he did, then why was it so difficult to accommodate one day out of the 24 or 25 days he was there?

You are asking me why Axl has is notorious for not executing on plans? I am no psychologist .

If he didn't, does it really matter if the rest of the band did or was interested?

Of course it matters, because when Axl comes around to record then he needs to have eager band mates.

And this signal of commitment, is that to the band, to making money, to making music?

Uhm, recroding is usually to make music... Whether they ulteriar motive is to spread their art or to make money is irrelevant to me as long as I enjoy the music.

What commitment are you speaking of?

Going through the work of moving and setting up gear shows a commitment to recording. It is not "just words", it is actual work that goes into the process.

'Cause the only commitments I'm seeing from the band is to individual pay checks and to the fans who bought tickets.

Err, what other commitment do you expect to see? I mean, isn't it enough for musicians to commit to their music and their fans by wanting to create new music and wanting to give kick-ass shows? Do you want them to be committed to cure cancer, too? Btw, some of the band members go way beyond only committing to ticket buying fans. So sad you are so blind.

I personally don't see any commitment to moving the band forward.

So sad you don't believe the band moved gear into Dj's studio to record, then.

If they couldn't manage to get into a studio where all seven or eight of them were in one place at one time for three weeks, what chance do you think we'll see them getting together to record music in early 2013 when each returns back to the their own homes in different parts of the country (Axl in California, DJ in Vegas, Bumble in NY/NJ, Fortus in St. Louis, etc.).

The probability of GN'R recording at any specific time is, as always, very low.

[Guest Gunns]

ATTENTION: FOR BBA

THAT IS ALL

[Crash Diet]

It's not a big deal. BBF doesn't give a shit if they recorded or not.

Looks like to me: the only thing that matters to him & the others is the money, if they want more (recording & releasing new music etc.), they quit from a long long time ago

Edited December 5, 2012 by Crash Diet

[SoulMonster]

It's not a big deal. BBF doesn't give a shit if they recorded or not.

Looks like to me: the only thing that matters to him & the others is the money, if they want more (recording & releasing new music etc.), they quit from a long long time ago

Why don't you believe numerous quotes from the band members that they want to record and release more music in GN'R? What evidence do you have to support your hypothesis that they are only there for the money? It is not like being a GN'R member in any way prevents they from being creative artists, almost all of them create and release music outside of GN'R regularly.

[Yesterdaze]

his body language said nervous, he knows more than hes letting on JMTC

You could clearly see by BBF's body language that there is a very visible disconnect between him and the rest of the "band". In fact, if I heard him correctly, he referred to GNR as "them".

It sounds like things are bad ..... real bad.

What else would he refer to them as? It? I just called them "them". Oh no, make a new post about it. Hopefully they play Europe again next summer.

[mixk]

Axl recording with Izzy is far more exciting than Axl recording with Bumblefoot.

This

[SoulMonster]

Axl recording with Izzy is far more exciting than Axl recording with Bumblefoot.

This

Too bad it is both hypothetical

[Crash Diet]

It's not a big deal. BBF doesn't give a shit if they recorded or not.

Looks like to me: the only thing that matters to him & the others is the money, if they want more (recording & releasing new music etc.), they quit from a long long time ago

Why don't you believe numerous quotes from the band members that they want to record and release more music in GN'R? What evidence do you have to support your hypothesis that they are only there for the money? It is not like being a GN'R member in any way prevents they from being creative artists, almost all of them create and release music outside of GN'R regularly.

Because they are paid musicians and Axl is the leader. If AXL said, i would be start getting my hopes up.

It is not like being a GN'R member in any way prevents they from being creative artists, almost all of them create and release music outside of GN'R regularly.

and where am i stated the opposite?

I talked about GNR, not their solo projects

Edited December 5, 2012 by Crash Diet

[SoulMonster]

It's not a big deal. BBF doesn't give a shit if they recorded or not.

Looks like to me: the only thing that matters to him & the others is the money, if they want more (recording & releasing new music etc.), they quit from a long long time ago

Why don't you believe numerous quotes from the band members that they want to record and release more music in GN'R? What evidence do you have to support your hypothesis that they are only there for the money? It is not like being a GN'R member in any way prevents they from being creative artists, almost all of them create and release music outside of GN'R regularly.

Because they are paid musicians and Axl is the leader. If AXL said, i would be start getting my hopes up.

So because they get paid for being in GN'R then it follows that they are only in it for the money? That's the logic you are using?

[Facekicker]

Axl is just going to tour until his pension reserve is satisfactory and then he'll retire to his mansion for good to spend his days eating lamb dinners and admiring his hat collection.

[SoulMonster]

Axl is just going to tour until his pension reserve is satisfactory and then he'll retire to his mansion for good to spend his days eating lamb dinners and admiring his hat collection.

He is obviously not in it for the money. He gets enough from royalty on back catalogue to live comfortably without having to tour. If he really wanted more money he could just do a one year reunion tour.

He obviously is an artist. Albeit a dysfunctional one.

[WilliamBruceRoseJr]

It's so sad to listen Ron. His body language say it all. There are no plans for recording, no chemistry as a band. With those kind of silly interviews it shows the state of the band right now. Awful.

[Funkadelic]

But why? How can they live under these circumstanses? I've had a lot of shit jobs such as janitor and dish washer but I've always been better informed about the state of things in those businesses than these guys whom the company bases it's existence on!

[AXL_N_DIZZY]

36 and fan since '88. I sincerely wanted to believe otherwise- but the moment folks started to think/speculate/assume Axl would record in Vegas- was probably the precise moment it became 100% certain that he wouldn't. Guy never does the expected or easy thing- and probably never will- especially if he gets even the slightest whiff that folks are expexting him to do something. On the bright side- being that way- he'll probably show up at Bumble's hotel room in Indonesia at 2:30 am with two cups of coffee and be like- "Hey man. Wanna record?".

Anyway- keep the faith I say. I think another album (or at least EP) will appear in the next 24-36 months.

[Guest NewGNRnOldGNR]

Another inaccurate synopsis of a band interview. There was no time to record in the studio. If you consider the energy demands of tour life it would certainly inhibit on one’s sense of creativity.

Bumblefoot is never aware (either genuinely or on the instruction of GN’R) of anything but tours within the foreseeable future i.e. to the end of 2012. If a Euro tour next spring or summer is on the cards Guns N’ Roses won’t announce until it’s strategically viable.

Regarding a live DVD, would you rather as a fan secure a simple format DVD that isn’t 2010 or a 3D release capturing the hugely successful residency?

These recent reportings are all a ploy from BBA to secure the status of ‘Reporter’ within the structure of the forum. Don’t allow it to happen.

[trqster]

The future of new GnR has already happened - the repeat of other Vegas residencies and playing clubs in the US. Abroad they'll tour every other year, with their endlessly successful Greatest Hits tour.

[liers]

Looks like we're heading for a silent period like 2003-2006 where they keep saying there will be a new record, but noone knows when. So, if thats the case, 2013-2016 will be nothingness.

[F*ck Fear]

For years I thought Chinese Democracy would never have been released and it was. Anything after that? If it happens great and if not, so what? The one album I wanted to hear for years was finally released. I wouldn't expect another album.

[phaeryen]

Atleast he likes to put the ugly stuff out there now, that's for sure.

[Saltzy]

After watching this and reading this thread I think I am beginning to understand why my mic was never sent back to me.

Yikes.

How can my office of 500 function and have better internal communication than a band of 7 fucking people who travel around the world with each other?

[Ali]

After watching this and reading this thread I think I am beginning to understand why my mic was never sent back to me.

Yikes.

How can my office of 500 function and have better internal communication than a band of 7 fucking people who travel around the world with each other?

Do you seriously think there is any connection between your situation with The Joint's security and the band recording material?

I'm sorry you got screwed out of getting the mic, but, honestly, I don't see any connection given that you stated it was The Joint's security that took it back from you.

Ali

[Saltzy]

After watching this and reading this thread I think I am beginning to understand why my mic was never sent back to me.

Yikes.

How can my office of 500 function and have better internal communication than a band of 7 fucking people who travel around the world with each other?

Do you seriously think there is any connection between your situation with The Joint's security and the band recording material?

I'm sorry you got screwed out of getting the mic, but, honestly, I don't see any connection given that you stated it was The Joint's security that took it back from you.

Ali

I don't believe I ever said that. My overarching point is dysfunction. GnR, from basically Day One, has been all sorts of dysfunctional.

Back in the '90, it was kinda cool. We got albums. We got tours. We never knew what to expect, but when we got it, it usually kicked ass.

Now? This shit is just tired. Members of the band having no clue what their immediate future holds? Give me a fucking break already.

Outside of the macro level lessing of interest in RnR in society in general, which is obviously a major factor, there is a reason why the masses have had it with this band already, and this is just a singular example of that.

For the record BTW, the Hard Rock apparently has an 'extra Axl mic lying around', whatever the hell that means, and they are sending it to me. At least I hope they are. The band never sent me the one I caught before skipping town. For whatever reasons you would lke to attribute that to I guess. Whatever. I'm getting a mic, and that's MORE than fine by me at this point.

Edited December 6, 2012 by Saltzy

[EhEh]

I became a fan after the release of CD, so it's all about the new music for me. I really could not give a fuck about them endlessley touring greatest hits and covers from the 1980's.....so boring.

[Roush]

It is dissapointing that my favorite rock singer has little interest in sharing his music with his millions of fans.

How in the world does the lead guitar player not know the bands plans for the upcoming year?

One album in 15 years. Which was released over 4 years ago. How is it humanly possible that band members don't know when the next one is coming out? This should be a major topic within the band.

Maybe he doesn't know. Or maybe, as BBF has said in the past on multiple occasions, he will not be the one to publicly state and/or confirm GN'R's plans. He may be leaving that up to management to make official through the Twitter/Facebook/official site channels like they did with the Jimmy Kimmel interview and the Vegas Residency, etc. Or, even secondary sources of information, like promoters for shows, etc.

Ali

Stop trying to rationalize in the favor of delusion.

This isn't a band. It is an irritable cash grab funding Axl Rose's retirement. The band knows, we (most of us) know. That's why Fernando, and Team Brazil are so brazenly defensive when we question the integrity of the GN'R name. As if one of us opining the "Chinese Democracy World Tour Part V" may not be the best thing for Guns 'N' Roses -- we are terrible, sad human beings who do not deserve to reciprocate carbon dioxide. Because 'damn us', and our opinions. Poor Fernando. He just wants to recharge his trust fund.

To us -- it's a band. A very sincere, very powerful band that once existed.

To them -- it's a cash crop.

[wasted]

I think it's easy to be idealistic early on, of course the first record is the most important but a band have to evolve if it wants to have longevity. Maybe that isn't cool. Even The Stones had to compromise and play the game. Half the band wanted to go out like The Sex Pistols and the other wanted to have a career. Those guys are legends cos they got out at the top, they are like rock immortals. But the guy who wanted to complete his dream and carry on with what he worked for gets ranked over the coals. There is no right and wrong about it, it's just choices.