Dan H. Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I feel like the D&N section is full of people entirely out of touch with reality.They either praise CD as the best thing since the Beatles, or act like its a horrible awful disgusting trash album.I strongly believe these people on both sides have very slim exposure to music, and are probably the same idiots who think that any music without guitars and synthisized violens is terrible.Chinese Democracy is an average album. Which should come as a disappointment, considering with proper promotion it could have been a bit bigger of a release (it would never have been huge, though)It was a solid release, that didn't live up to its hype, was not a masterpiece, and was also nowhere near being 'horrible'.It fact it was pretty cool to listen to it in 2008 and early 2009. I haven't really touched it since then... But it really was 'that' kind of album. You pick it up and blast it until you get bored and sick of it.I invite those who disagree to listen to some REAL masterpieces and some REAL failure albums, and expand their knowledge and tastes in music before making wild claims about an album who's popularity in 2012 is localized to three fan forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 i think it sucks. oh well, i must be an idiot who has a narrow understanding of music and art. maybe one day i will become smarter and be able to fully appreciate how this album doesn't suck, but is instead only mediocre. great topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Yeah. You probably do have a weaker understanding of music.Either that or you're like, 50 and think that the Stones and Aerosmith are still cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 nailed me. i'm a total philistine. that's why i can't appreciate guns n' roses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 I don't appreciate Guns N' Roses.I just accept that critically and commercially Chinese Democracy wasn't awful.I haven't listened to GNR in three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 eh, everyone has different tastes. sorry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansin Humanity Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) I like CD. I like Slash and Velvet Revolver. Come at me.edit: this is a universal come at me, not at one person. Edited December 7, 2012 by Mansin Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 i don't like VR and am completely sick of CD. i know axl can still put out good music, what he simply can't do anymore is to sing live with any quality, so he should stop touring so much and focus on studio work, where his voice will always be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 II feel like the D&N section is full of people entirely out of touch with reality.They either praise CD as the best thing since the Beatles, or act like its a horrible awful disgusting trash album.I strongly believe these people on both sides have very slim exposure to music, and are probably the same idiots who think that any music without guitars and synthisized violens is terrible.Chinese Democracy is an average album. Which should come as a disappointment, considering with proper promotion it could have been a bit bigger of a release (it would never have been huge, though)It was a solid release, that didn't live up to its hype, was not a masterpiece, and was also nowhere near being 'horrible'.It fact it was pretty cool to listen to it in 2008 and early 2009. I haven't really touched it since then... But it really was 'that' kind of album. You pick it up and blast it until you get bored and sick of it.I invite those who disagree to listen to some REAL masterpieces and some REAL failure albums, and expand their knowledge and tastes in music before making wild claims about an album who's popularity in 2012 is localized to three fan forums.I somewhat agree. In my opinion Democracy is a mixed bag: some absolutely brilliant songs (TWAT, Better, SOD, Madagascar), some medicore tracks (IRS, Sorry) and one or two absolute turds (the title track, scraped). In sum total, it is a decent album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Why did you open another thread to discuss the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Yeah, and when people say CD is a complex album, surely they are trolling?It's an enjoyable listen, some low points, some high points, as whole it's very average, it's not worth all the drama it gets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 You probably do have a weaker understanding of music.And you have an incredibly weak grasp on the connection between music and subjectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 You probably do have a weaker understanding of music.And you have an incredibly weak grasp on the connection between music and subjectivity.This isn't a thread about subjectivity. You can love CD as much as you want.Doesn't make it a masterpiece, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I feel like the D&N section is full of people entirely out of touch with reality.They either praise CD as the best thing since the Beatles, or act like its a horrible awful disgusting trash album.I strongly believe these people on both sides have very slim exposure to music, and are probably the same idiots who think that any music without guitars and synthisized violens is terrible.Chinese Democracy is an average album. Which should come as a disappointment, considering with proper promotion it could have been a bit bigger of a release (it would never have been huge, though)It was a solid release, that didn't live up to its hype, was not a masterpiece, and was also nowhere near being 'horrible'.It fact it was pretty cool to listen to it in 2008 and early 2009. I haven't really touched it since then... But it really was 'that' kind of album. You pick it up and blast it until you get bored and sick of it.I invite those who disagree to listen to some REAL masterpieces and some REAL failure albums, and expand their knowledge and tastes in music before making wild claims about an album who's popularity in 2012 is localized to three fan forums.You were making a good point until you post your opinions as facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 This isn't a thread about subjectivity. You can love CD as much as you want.Doesn't make it a masterpiece, man.Well consider the analogy 'One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter'. This is also applicable to music. Who qualifies to deem music a 'masterpiece'? The reality is, anybody. If it makes love to your ears and mind, call it a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzygirl Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 At this point, I'm far from the road; so far that I can't even see the road anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The Stones and Aerosmith are still cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is a bit rich for a NuGNR fan to criticise Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones for being uncool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) It is a bit rich for a NuGNR fan to criticise Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones for being uncool.I'm not a GNR fan at all.GNR is irrelevant. Just as much as the Stones and Aerosmith. Edited December 7, 2012 by LiveFromNormal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) i still listen to it somewhat frequently, it think it is a very good album, is it a masterpiece? that is up to the listener to decide, not some idiot on a blog or working at some shitty magazine to tell people.as for the stones and aerosmith they are very relevant. Edited December 7, 2012 by bran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 i still listen to it somewhat frequently, it think it is a very good album, is it a masterpiece? that is up to the listener to decide, not some idiot on a blog or working at some shitty magazine to tell people.as for the stones and aerosmith they are very relevant.This ain't the 60s and 70s brah. The Stones and Aerosmith haven't had a hit single in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The op is a moron. Music is 100% opinion. Nothing is fact. You can think whatever you like about anything. some people say Chinese democracy is a masterpiece, so the op belittles there music knowledge or infers they must be old and out of "it." This is what is hilarious about the forum and real life, people talk about music like it's a fact. Sorry, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The op is a moron. Music is 100% opinion. Nothing is fact. You can think whatever you like about anything. some people say Chinese democracy is a masterpiece, so the op belittles there music knowledge or infers they must be old and out of "it." This is what is hilarious about the forum and real life, people talk about music like it's a fact. Sorry, it's not.great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is a bit rich for a NuGNR fan to criticise Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones for being uncool.I'm not a GNR fan at all.GNR is irrelevant. Just as much as the Stones and Aerosmith.Talk to me in 25, 40 or 50 years (the time gnr, aerosmith and the stones have been around) and let's see how many of today's relevant (your opinion) are still being talked about. The fact that everyone (people who don't live under a rock) at least know who those band's are still today Says it all. Take 99% of "music" acts today and in 5 years people's responses will be "I remember him/her. Lol." Just because you are a flavor of the month doesn't mean shit. Let's put love me do and anything from today up against each other, and in 5 years we'll see what is talked about and respected more. And that's not to take away from anyone who likes new artists, music has just changed. With the advent of the internet, Flavor of the months are more common than ever. Attention spans are shorter thAn ever. Music artists of today arguably have to work harder than ever to stay relevant to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 And who takes this OP seriously for god`s sake oh wait he`s listening to music relevant to his age and culture thus he knows everything what he says is a gospel truth and others` opinions don`t matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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