Crash Diet Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The issue with that album has nothing to do with lyrics. It's the fact that it all sounded like 80s cock rock. Ok but totally dated by 1994.To be honest: so many bands play "80's cockrock" (btw, the terms is laughable, coz I5OCSW is a blues rock/hard rock album) in 2012 (included Axl coverband too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The issue with that album has nothing to do with lyrics. It's the fact that it all sounded like 80s cock rock. Ok but totally dated by 1994.5 o'clock sounded nothing like '80s cock rock. Did you even listen to it?Agreed. Most would interprete the term '80s cock rock' as being a genre which consists of shred guitar, polished production, power ballads and cock rock lyrics. It's Five O' Clock has little of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 calling 5oclock somewhere "cock rock" is simply wrong. it's a blues rock album. not my cup of tea, but a solid record, way more solid than CD and its hip hop piano ballads and shredding guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 How one can depict an album with songs like "Neither Can I" as akin to '80s 'cock rock' is beyond me. Perhaps, this is coming from one of those types who would describe Chinese Democracy as "experimental". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I liked the album. The cover's great too. Not every track is AAA but what album is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The issue with that album has nothing to do with lyrics. It's the fact that it all sounded like 80s cock rock. Ok but totally dated by 1994.WTF how is It's Five O' Clock cock rock? Its simply a hard/blues rock album.As for lyrics, if What Do You Want to Be, Take It Away, and Be the Ball weren't written by Slash about Axl then I am a pork dumpling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Duff agreed with Axl on Slashs material. It needed more work to be GNR. I think if you took snakepit and added Axls ballads then they could have pulled it off. But slash wouldnt do those songs. To me it seems like slash wanted to do afd without the hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 But that's the thing, Snakepit isn't like AFD at all. It's essentially blues rock made with big Marshalls. It doesn't have the degree of guitar interplay as on AFD or even UYI (there's plenty on there) and it barely ever boogies and swings. The guitars drive the music, not the rhythm section like in GN'R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceres Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Enough with the douchebag topics. So f'n annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stro Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 5OCS is so average. Axl on ApLove would be awesome, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Had it been released as a Guns N`Roses album it would have tanked hard they would be a laughing stoke and never would have recovered even Axl`s and Duff`s input would n`t have improved it it was just weak from start to finish Beggars And Hangers On and Neither Can I had potential but overall as a cohesive album it sucked shit out of cat`s anus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 There is good riffs and components on that album. I think it is naive to assume that Axl couldn't have taken an instrumental passage as good as, say, the slow bits of Lower, and turn it into an excellent song. Axl after all had no problems expanding upon prior instrumental music composed by Slash - Jungle, Locomotive, Coma - and turning them into something superior and, more expansive. Or are you saying that Slash suddenly ceased to write good riffs in 1994 like he had before? If so, come on! There are few riffs finer than the riff in Beggars and Hangers-On. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) But that's the thing, Snakepit isn't like AFD at all. It's essentially blues rock made with big Marshalls. It doesn't have the degree of guitar interplay as on AFD or even UYI (there's plenty on there) and it barely ever boogies and swings. The guitars drive the music, not the rhythm section like in GN'R.Exactly the boogie is the hits. But Slash wanted to do more of a Draw the line album. Fast and loose. Which is kind of what they did in VR as well. A harder faster punk sound. Edited December 23, 2012 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Axl Rose is easy to work with. Just look at all the people who have joined GNR to work with him. Such is the demand two whole line-ups had to be dispensed with to make way for the current crop. Amazing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Axl Rose is easy to work with. Just look at all the people who have joined GNR to workr with him. Such is the demand two whole line-ups had to be dispensed with to make way for the current crop. Amazing work. Whats the body count?3 lead guitarists3 rhythm guitaristsA bassist4 drummersThink if there were another two bassists, there could be three bands called Guns in conjunction with the current lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 And there would be a manager for each line-up too. Maybe this is the grand plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Tis a great Snakepit albumWould have been beyond a crappy GNR album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Beyond a crappy GNR album?Beyond Chinese Democracy then? Yeah I'd agree, it is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 And there would be a manager for each line-up too. Maybe this is the grand plan.But the original lineup could join up with Matt and Gilby and kill all the other lineups. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRose14 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 God Steven Adler is an overrated drummer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I wonder what CD would have sounded like as a GNR record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRose14 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I wonder what CD would have sounded like as a GNR record. Slash would have sucked covering Buckethead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I wonder what CD would have sounded like as a GNR record. Slash would have sucked covering BucketheadI said a GNR record. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I think if ypu take a couple of the songs on snakepit, a couple off ju ju hounds, TIL and Catcher, a couple Duff songs, couple of covers and a drum solo. They could have called it Career Suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I could still see a gnr record, whatever its make-up, selling up until about 1996/97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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