Ragnar Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) He's talking riffs, not solos. CD doesn't have one riff that blows my mind. I'm surprised that crappy scraped riff was written by buckethead. But the Vox and Lyrics keep me interested. 5 O Clock doesn't have any Vox or Lyrics that keep me interested but the Guitar work does, at times.OK give you that there are some good riffs on Snakepit but the rest, vocals ? lyrics ? melodies ? arrangements ? what an abortion everyone whines that lyrics on CD suck but no one mentions that Slash`s post Guns albums lyircally are fucking laughable Edited December 27, 2012 by Son of a Guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I wouldn't go to Slash if I required good lyrics, just like, I wouldn't go to Axl if I required a sleazy blues riff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Id prob take 1 CD song over the snakepit album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 It's Five O'clock Somewhere > Chinese Democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 It's Five O'clock Somewhere > Chinese DemocracyOK whatever makes you happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I like the album a tad bit more than Chinese Democracy, but it has about just as many duds as it does gems. Yet, to me, I find that CD has more duds than gems.That being said, I think if everybody had worked on it, compromised, and expanded on the ideas, it would have been better received than Chinese Democracy. Though, I think Contraband stood the best chance had everybody from the GNR heyday participated and contributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think Contraband is the most solid album from any member of the original line-up. Slash's solo albums are subpar, ChinDem is subpar.. Contraband defines modern rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 It really amazes me that there are people here who think It's 5'O Clock Somewhere should have been a GNR album and that Axl was being an outright cunt for rejecting it.Exactly. It's unlistenable without Stephanie Seymour Hip-Hop Piano Ballads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 It really amazes me that there are people here who think It's 5'O Clock Somewhere should have been a GNR album and that Axl was being an outright cunt for rejecting it.Exactly. It's unlistenable without Stephanie Seymour Hip-Hop Piano Ballads.So you think songs like Be the Ball and Good to Be Alive would have been well received as GNR songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 It really amazes me that there are people here who think It's 5'O Clock Somewhere should have been a GNR album and that Axl was being an outright cunt for rejecting it.Exactly. It's unlistenable without Stephanie Seymour Hip-Hop Piano Ballads.So you think songs like Be the Ball and Good to Be Alive would have been well received as GNR songs?Do you think Chinese Democracy was well-receieved at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) It really amazes me that there are people here who think It's 5'O Clock Somewhere should have been a GNR album and that Axl was being an outright cunt for rejecting it.Exactly. It's unlistenable without Stephanie Seymour Hip-Hop Piano Ballads.So you think songs like Be the Ball and Good to Be Alive would have been well received as GNR songs?Do you think Chinese Democracy was well-receieved at all?The reviews weren't bad, but I'm not talking about Chinese Democracy. Edited December 28, 2012 by bacardimayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 He's talking riffs, not solos. CD doesn't have one riff that blows my mind. I'm surprised that crappy scraped riff was written by buckethead. But the Vox and Lyrics keep me interested. 5 O Clock doesn't have any Vox or Lyrics that keep me interested but the Guitar work does, at times.OK give you that there are some good riffs on Snakepit but the rest, vocals ? lyrics ? melodies ? arrangements ? what an abortion everyone whines that lyrics on CD suck but no one mentions that Slash`s post Guns albums lyircally are fucking laughableI said that the vox n' lyrics don't keep me interested. The only thing post GNR I can somewhat sing along to are VR songs. I loved set me free, fall to pieces, and a couple others. Axl still hasn't found a way to replace Slash and make the new band a seriousely guitar driven band. I hope one day that can change. God knows with Fortus they should have at least been able to do that much. Such wasted potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'm still not fully understanding why you can't like both Axl and Slash on this forum but w/e.I think anyone who does not see the potential for a GnR record in the Snakepit album is just biased toward Axl and not looking at it fairly.I think anyone who says that 5 O Clock blows CD out of the water is just as bad, but in the opposite direction.Since the break-up the two have been in a perpetual search to find a replacement for the other. The sad truth is, they are two of the most unique talents in Rock, and cannot be "replaced" They are both amazing alone, but together they became something so incredible, it is unlikely we will ever see it's equal in our lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 CD II will be a response to Contraband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 It really amazes me that there are people here who think It's 5'O Clock Somewhere should have been a GNR album and that Axl was being an outright cunt for rejecting it.Exactly. It's unlistenable without Stephanie Seymour Hip-Hop Piano Ballads.So you think songs like Be the Ball and Good to Be Alive would have been well received as GNR songs?Do you think Chinese Democracy was well-receieved at all?The reviews weren't bad, but I'm not talking about Chinese Democracy.Honestly? Most GN'R fans thought it was a bad joke.It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) It really amazes me that there are people here who think It's 5'O Clock Somewhere should have been a GNR album and that Axl was being an outright cunt for rejecting it.Exactly. It's unlistenable without Stephanie Seymour Hip-Hop Piano Ballads.So you think songs like Be the Ball and Good to Be Alive would have been well received as GNR songs?All I know is, musically, Be the Ball contains some of Slash's very greatest guitar work. It has a wonderful winding riff and a great wah solo.The lyrics however stink to high heaven. Replace the lyrics with Axl's - the voice - and you have yourself a first rate gnr rocker.Good to be Alive would have needed a lot more work. I like the opening riff mind. Edited December 28, 2012 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I hate everybody could have been like the new YCBM with a decent song written for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'm still not fully understanding why you can't like both Axl and Slash on this forum but w/e.I think anyone who does not see the potential for a GnR record in the Snakepit album is just biased toward Axl and not looking at it fairly.I think anyone who says that 5 O Clock blows CD out of the water is just as bad, but in the opposite direction.Since the break-up the two have been in a perpetual search to find a replacement for the other. The sad truth is, they are two of the most unique talents in Rock, and cannot be "replaced" They are both amazing alone, but together they became something so incredible, it is unlikely we will ever see it's equal in our lifetimes.I agree with this. Axl fans are rather, shooting them in the foot, by saying things like ''I50S sucks donkey ass'' or whatever insult thy can come up. At the same time, Democracy has some quality material. I mean even if you do not like the band and the guitars you can still see the songwriting potential and Axl's presence rather, shines through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) He's talking riffs, not solos. CD doesn't have one riff that blows my mind. I'm surprised that crappy scraped riff was written by buckethead. But the Vox and Lyrics keep me interested. 5 O Clock doesn't have any Vox or Lyrics that keep me interested but the Guitar work does, at times.OK give you that there are some good riffs on Snakepit but the rest, vocals ? lyrics ? melodies ? arrangements ? what an abortion everyone whines that lyrics on CD suck but no one mentions that Slash`s post Guns albums lyircally are fucking laughableI said that the vox n' lyrics don't keep me interested. The only thing post GNR I can somewhat sing along to are VR songs. I loved set me free, fall to pieces, and a couple others. Axl still hasn't found a way to replace Slash and make the new band a seriousely guitar driven band. I hope one day that can change. God knows with Fortus they should have at least been able to do that much. Such wasted potential.Contraband is the only Slash`s post Guns album I really like yeah you`re right Axl could n`t replace Slash ( well he had chance to replace him with Buckethead but we all know how it ended ) just like Slash could n`t replace Axl it`s a two way street you know they`ll never replace each other as For Fortus, guitarist like him must n`t be in the shadow of DJ Fagba Ron and Richard can handle guitars just fine drop Fagba, Pitman and Ferrer bring back Braiin. Axl, Ron, Richard, Tommy, Dizzy and Brain would be hell of a lineup with new music of course in every 2 or 3 years but it`s a wishful thinking I guess Edited December 28, 2012 by Son of a Guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB. Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I'm still not fully understanding why you can't like both Axl and Slash on this forum but w/e.Since the break-up the two have been in a perpetual search to find a replacement for the other. The sad truth is, they are two of the most unique talents in Rock, and cannot be "replaced" They are both amazing alone, but together they became something so incredible, it is unlikely we will ever see it's equal in our lifetimes.I agree with this.By the way, to me the best Slash post GNR album is Ain't life grand, however it changes with 5' O clock a regurlary. I like Rod's voice more, but some pretty solid songs on 5' O clock. It just isn't a GNR album. But as an album on it's own pretty good. I choose CD over the two, but I don't consider that a GNR album as well. To me, that's Axl's album. Edited December 28, 2012 by MBRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzydoezit Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Truth is that under the circumstances back in 1994 there couldn't be a new GNR album. They had their differences and those differences were not easy to be worked out when Axl wouldn't show up for rehearsal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think anyone who does not see the potential for a GnR record in the Snakepit album is just biased toward Axl and not looking at it fairlyDon't get me wrong. I don't think I5OCS is a bad album. I just don't think it sounds like GNR as much as some here think it does, and I don't think it would have performed well as a GNR album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 But it wouldn't be a case of i5ocs being plonked out as a gnr record. I5OCS has its problems, I think most people accept that; topping that list of problems would be both the lyrics and singing. Guess what would happen if it was a gnr record? Dover wouldn't be writing the lyrics and singing. Someone called W. Axl Rose would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) But it wouldn't be a case of i5ocs being plonked out as a gnr record. I5OCS has its problems, I think most people accept that; topping that list of problems would be both the lyrics and singing. Guess what would happen if it was a gnr record? Dover wouldn't be writing the lyrics and singing. Someone called W. Axl Rose would be.Still would n`t change much Axl was emotionally distraught at that time he was going through harsh period and could n`t write single line of words and melodies even Zakk Wylde talked about it they should have taken long break 5 or 6 years during that said time they should have worked out their issues Axl --- his paranoia, Slash and Duff ---- their alcohol and drug dependencies plus whatever the fuck solo projects they wanted to do somewhere around 2000 or 2001 they should have regrouped with or without Izzy and dazzled us with triple album in this scenario Guns would rule the Rock world again Edited December 28, 2012 by Son of a Guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 In 2001 Slash was writing music of the calibre of Just Like Anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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