saber_ Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 This is a subject which often gets mentioned in discussions around here. There seems to be some debate (or rather, a lack of consensus) among dedicated fans as to just how familiar casual fans (and/or the general rock n 'roll public) are with nΣw Guns. While it is certainly true that many casual fans don't know who is in the band currently, I would argue that many casual fans do indeed know that Axl is the last original member in the band. Do you agree? Given the 2002 VMAs, Velvet Revolver's notoriety/success, Slash's prominence in the media, various articles in the press, the release of Chinese Democracy, and all the years that have passed, among other things, I think casual fans are quite aware Slash/Duff/Matt/etc are not in the band anymore. In your estimation, what percentage of people know that Axl is the sole remaining original member? What is your rationale for your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 90%the remaining 10% mostly are stupid latin american fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 This is a subject which often gets mentioned in discussions around here. There seems to be some debate (or rather, a lack of consensus) among dedicated fans as to just how familiar casual fans (and/or the general rock n 'roll public) are with nΣw Guns. While it is certainly true that many casual fans don't know who is in the band currently, I would argue that many casual fans do indeed know that Axl is the last original member in the band. Do you agree? Given the 2002 VMAs, Velvet Revolver's notoriety/success, Slash's prominence in the media, various articles in the press, the release of Chinese Democracy, and all the years that have passed, among other things, I think casual fans are quite aware Slash/Duff/Matt/etc are not in the band anymore. In your estimation, what percentage of people know that Axl is the sole remaining original member? What is your rationale for your opinion?I'd say over 90% of casual fans, although every once in a while Dizzy will be lumped together with Axl like this: "Rose and keyboardist Dizzy Reed are the only remaining members of the seminal Guns N' Roses lineup that also included guitarists Slash and Izzy Stradlin, bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Steven Adler." Dizzy and Adler were bandmates for only about 6 months, so technically the writer is not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman2000 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 90%the remaining 10% mostly are stupid latin american fanswhat he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) None of the fans. Everybody goes to see Slash. Unsurprisingly, nobody can tell that DJ isn't Slash. Edited January 1, 2013 by Damn_Smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You guys are smoking crack.I'd estimate that at best maybe 25% of the general public are aware that Slash isn't in the band. To everyone outside these boards, GNR=AXL and Slash. Period.If they hear that Guns N Roses are coming to town, a good 75% of the people would expect to see the band they remember from MTV in the 90s.Speaking for America, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 the remaining 10% mostly are stupid latin american fansActually those guys always seem to know the names of every band member unlike most fans from other countries so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 90%the remaining 10% mostly are stupid latin american fansReally? L.A.M.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 My 90% answer is in regard to casual fans, asked by the OP as follows:"While it is certainly true that many casual fans don't know who is in the band currently, I would argue that many casual fans do indeed know that Axl is the last original member in the band. Do you agree?"But I see how the question is phrased several different ways by the OP, thus explaining why people may have completely different answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Probably about 50% of non-diehard fans.I would estimate that 90% don't even care. GNR's time is up and has been for a while. It's all for nostalgia at this point and even Axl seems to think so with his consistent reliance on older material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRose14 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 All people ever cared about was Axl and Slash being in guns n roses. Notice that other than these here message boards no one on earth ever bitches about duff and izzy not being in the band...People at shows yell ''wheres slash'' not wheres duff or izzy lmao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You mean in 3rd world countries? The only places where folks are cool with Axl pretending t's nineteen ninety fucking two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 30%. Most just think Slash isn't there. Especially in the US. Those that know who Slash and Axl were/are, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRose14 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You mean in 3rd world countries? The only places where folks are cool with Axl pretending t's nineteen ninety fucking two? Enough with being an Axl fan already!!! Fuck him he doesn't even have the fucking balls to release what dj slashba believes is magical material... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I've met some people who were like, "It's not the original band though, is it? It's, what, just the guitar player or something right?" and I've just laughed, because I read people on here who take things so seriously and then hear some random person have a comment like that I'd say more people are aware that Slash isn't around than are aware that Axl's the only original, but as has been stated, GNR to most people is Axl + Slash, so it doesn't really make a difference eh? Although it's kinda funny that nobody really regards Dizzy as new or old, he's just sorta unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Most people are aware that Axl is the only member as it has been something of a punch line in mainstream media for so long. Now, how many people could name any other member of any "nu-GNR" lineup besides Axl (or MAYBE Buckethead) I'd wager about 5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 75%...5% probably don't care/have never heard of them much.10% probably stopped following them when they stopped releasing music in the early 90's.10% probably think there is another original member besides Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Not sure, but I think the people who aren't really fans of GNR think they're not around anymore.Last year, I was wearing a new GNR shirt that I got at the Dallas show and some guy with his wife said Guns N Roses, are they still around?One of my daughters friends, asked when we were going to Vegas to see GNR, if we were seeing the Axl GNR or the Slash GNR? lol My daughter said there is no Slash GNR, just Axl's GNR.I think if you were just a fan who followed them back when MTV played their videos, most people have no idea that Axl is still around with a new lineup for GNR.I guess fans like us are pretty much the ones who know what's going on with Axl and GNR now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) I don't know where some of you are getting this 90% from, it's way less than that, and I'd guess the fans in Latin American are more aware than those elsewhere.For the UK I'd say 21% tops, and that's generous. People stopped following GNR years ago. A while back, Aerosmith were guests on the Jonathan Ross show, (it's like a UK Leno/Letterman), they were talking about Slash's artwork for their new album, and the host referred to him as "Slash from GNR". That sums it up. Slash is forever linked to GNR, the vast majority of people think he is still in the band, and that was probably the first time they'd heard mention of GNR in over a decade.Outside of the rock media, people just don't know what happened to them. They simply faded away. Plus there's a tendency to over-estimate the reach and relevancy of the rock media, which is a dying format.And just because Slash was successful with VR, that doesn't mean all those fans, or the general public, think he's out of GNR. There are lots of reasons why, but this is mostly because GNR's reach in their heyday was so huge, and current GNR is so invisible to the mainstream, it doesn't matter how successful Slash is with his other projects, more people will always think he's in GNR than be aware of his other bands.Also nuGNR were inactive for a long time, they don't have much of a presence within the mainstream media, most people are not aware they are currently touring or are active in any way. So if an average person sees Slash, (who has a higher mainstream profile than Axl and nuGNR), in a new band, that doesn't mean they think GNR is still going without him, rather they think GNR has stopped. They'd still expect to see him in GNR if a tour came to their town. Edited January 1, 2013 by Babooshka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I used to think it was really widely known, but that's actually not the case. I've encountered people who know Axl and have never heard Slash's name before. I thought if anything it'd be the other way around. Anyway, I'd say 65%. I think for the most part it's known, but then there's the percentage of people living under a rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlterL Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 90%the remaining 10% mostly are stupid latin american fansHey you racist ass hole, why would we the latin american fans be stupid? show some respect and think a litlle bit before writting in your computer, motherfucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) 90%the remaining 10% mostly are stupid latin american fansHey you racist ass hole, why would we the latin american fans be stupid? show some respect and think a litlle bit before writting in your computer, motherfucker!I think he meant "Latin American fans that are stupid." As in the stupid fans that are Latin American, not that all Latin American fans are stupid. Poor wording, though. Edited January 2, 2013 by Kill Devil Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 think he meant "Latin American fans that are stupid." As in the stupid fans that are Latin American, not that all Latin American fans are stupid. Poor wording, though.Oh don't do PR for crash diet. It was stereotyping, plain and simple. There was no wording issue. He knew exactly what he was typing. And he deserved to be checked. On topic:How much of an impact do you think the internet has had on the public's awareness? One could argue that some of the older casual fans, from the 80's, may not utilize the internet as younger people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr420 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 At this point 98 percent of tbe fans know and probably 20 percent care... mostly here in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Most people outside the forums know now, in 2002 no way, now oh yes they are well aware. Fuck even my neighbor in her 60's know's and she don't know shit about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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