saber_ Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Do you think Axl owes money to the record company? Thoughtful and insightful answers welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman2000 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Nah I think it's paid off now. The long tour should have paid it all off by now and also album sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm pretty sure Guns N' Roses is an unsigned band at the moment. No one needs a record label to release an album anymore. That's why Axl's excuses are all bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) He doesn't. All the Guns N' Roses music production between 1997 and 2007 costed 14 million dollars, which is exactly the same value that Best Buy paied to release 14 of those songs, which would be 1/2 or perhaps even 1/3 of all the music produced on that time. The number that I have seen the most regarding finished songs is 36. That makes a production cost of 388,888 dollars for song. Best Buy paied a million dollars for 14 of them, so Axl had a profit of 611,111 with each of the songs released, making that 8,555,555 dollars of profit with Chinese Democracy NOT COUNTING the selling numbers.Or not. I'm just using the numbers we have. Obviously there are hundreds of other issues that we don't know. Edited January 25, 2013 by ManetsBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Did he get the 14 million interest free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 What do you mean? As far as I know Best Buy paied 14 million dollars to Axl so Chinese Democracy would be sold only at Best Buy. That's it, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Do you think Axl owes money to the record company? Thoughtful and insightful answers welcomed.No. I don't.Do I think Robin Finck's guitar solo on a demo of 'Light My Fire' is quite possibly the meanest fucking solo to surface under the Gnr banner since Slash's 'Sweet Child'? Yes. Yes, I do. In the very near future, I'll be curious to see if others agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR123GNR456 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Oh God, here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Do you think Axl owes money to the record company? Thoughtful and insightful answers welcomed.No. I don't.Do I think Robin Finck's guitar solo on a demo of 'Light My Fire' is quite possibly the meanest fucking solo to surface under the Gnr banner since Slash's 'Sweet Child'? Yes. Yes, I do.In the very near future, I'll be curious to see if others agree.I wish there was an msl version of the bat signal Edited January 25, 2013 by Gunns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 BBA, what do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 BBA, what do you want?Can you be more specific with your question? There are alot of things that I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Why would you even make a comment like this if not to make us wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Manets -First and foremost, I made the comment because I believe it to be true.Secondly, I made the comment because I am sick and fucking tired of reading thread after thread where members are erroneously speculating that:a) Axl is fat and washed upb) The current lineup of the band is a tribute act and nothing morec) Axl doesn't have any other completed songsd) Anything that Axl would release at this point would suck anywaye) There will never be another GNR album, etcThose are the reasons I said what I said. I could comment for the next seven pages and have people call me a liar, but I'll just leave well enough alone for now. Sooner than later you will be able to give your own opinion on what I initially stated. Is it a Doors cover or is it a brand new track?? Hmm ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Ok, I think it's cool from you to share this, but let's not get into that stuff again. I mean, there's no point. What difference does it make for us to know detail of the songs, even if real details? No difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Manets -I can respect that. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Good. But just for you to know, I believe your words. I'm just not interested. Regarding new music, I wanna hear them. If I can't, I wanna know the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 surely the 14 mil form Best Buy covered it? They might be touring to pay for studio time, if the label isn't willing to pay for anything. I could see the label saying give us what you have we'll put it out as CD II, don't bother doing anything new or reworking anything. Axl says no I'll make some money and pay for more studio time. Although someone has to pay the band too. Maybe if they stop touring they wouldn't get much. So on we go. Welcome to the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think the 14million covered CD and the remaining 25-30 songs. Alot of people think it was spent just on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yes, it covered all those songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Do you think Axl owes money to the record company? Thoughtful and insightful answers welcomed.Why would he owe them when they've done something against the band's wishes like a greatest hits? They made hundreds of millions. Even if they shelved Chinese Democracy, they still made their money back from what was spent on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think the 14million covered CD and the remaining 25-30 songs. Alot of people think it was spent just on CD.This could be what really makes it a success. Having material in the bag which they can now release for profit.No overheads like that guy with spinning plates, he's got like a stick and plate, the rest is gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It could be tied up in litigation between the record company, the band, and Best Buy. But if so, we'd have heard about it, right?It's so hard to figure out exactly what the state of relations is between the band and the record company. Because neither side is saying a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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