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Do You Think Axl is Still Hurting From Everything That Happened in the Past?

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alfierose FRONTMAN

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I had a serious falling out with a friend 15yrs ago and we never made up. Occasionally I think about it and occasionally it bothers me. I think it would bother me a lot more if people were still constantly bringing it up.

If I had an opportunity to meet this person now it would be very weird as we would feel like virtual strangers after this length of time. Not sure what it would achieve either as we certainly couldn't pick up where we left off. I'm sure they feel the same way too.

Nothing says I dont give a fuck like a moustache.

That's the most rock n' roll thing I've heard on this forum since I joined! rock3

I love this too!

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saber_ FRONTMAN

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Considering how he still rants about Slash nd how he cuts out friends and associates who he feels supports Slash I don't think he has let go of the past.........

When was the last time he "ranted" about Slash? The bed-wetting story doesn't count.

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To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.

Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.

Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.

That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".

This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.

In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.

The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.

There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.

Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.

So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.

I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III

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Snowmass SUPER GOD

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Slash/Duff's departure, Seymour, etc.?

Or is he not hurt anymore but just bitter and/or cant forgive everything that transpired?

If he is then cry me a river. Boo hoo. Grow up. He's the one that hates/wants zero tp do with Slash and he's the one that beat Steph.
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classicrawker LEGEND

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Considering how he still rants about Slash nd how he cuts out friends and associates who he feels supports Slash I don't think he has let go of the past.........

When was the last time he "ranted" about Slash? The bed-wetting story doesn't count.

There was an article written by someon t the time of the HoF show that he was a t aparty with Axl and tht Axl just went off about Slash for no apprarent reason. Kid Rock was on the Howard Stern show recently and had some nice things to say about Axl but has said that he las lost all contact with Axl since he did the song with Slash on the first solo album and that he is on Axl's shit list now.....Sounds to me that Axl is still obsessed with Slash........

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Val22 OH MY GOD

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I'm sure Axl doesn't dwell on the past, but whatever happened with Slash, Axl won't forget about because he doesn't want to forgive or talk to Slash.

I'm sure Axl is living his life the best way he can and since he and GNR are touring alot again this year, it seems to me like Axl is having a good time with his life and his musically career.

Good for him! :)

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Apollo LEGEND

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I'm sure Axl doesn't dwell on the past.

Hello there..............welcome to the forum and to the world of GnR!!!

From your comment, I'm assuming you have just recently discovered GnR and aren't familiar with Axl's history.

Did you discover GnR from CD?

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T.wa.T GOD

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They were joined at the hip for ten years, ya know it took something major for him to not want anything to do with him, or some of the people around Slash. In the end they were business partners not freinds, and one fucked the other, and the one who got fucked wont let it go. Its hard to blame him.

Do you think Axl is the only person who's had a falling out with friends? If he even thinks about it on a daily basis, he'd need lots of professional help. He doesn't seem to dwell on it and neither should you.

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saber_ FRONTMAN

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Axl still has plenty of sand in his vagina.

Then you two have something in common.

Axl defense fail.

Comprehension fail. I said he and Axl have something in common then. Thus I was implicitly accepting his premise. But I think we can agree he's still hurting about something in GnR's history. It explains everything.

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themadcaplaughs DEMI-GOD

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I'm sure all of the classic lineup still reels from how it went down. Despite attempting to appear aloof: I'm sure Slash and Duff both still have bad days thinking about how shitty things got and would reunite the classic lineup in a second. Adler, (as much as I love the dude) is a major fuck up and I'm sure feels ill will and hurt about GN'R 24/7. I feel even Izzy, who seems the most removed from the whole deterioration of the old band, often wonders how it went from being the world's most dangerous rock band to the state is was in when he left in 1991.

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