saber_ Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Please share your thoughts on the timbre of Bryan Mantia's drumkit. I think he tuned his kit to sound similar to Adler's, and combined with his technical ability, he made those tubs sound like gold. Do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound.Really? I must respectfully disagree. I loved his sound at Rio 01 and the 2002 VMAs. His kit is almost addictive sounding to me. He brought the snap, crackle, pop and then some. I especially love the tuning of his snare drum. It had some very real authority and sting. That's just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Best drummer GN'R ever had by far imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The soundboard recordings from 2002 emphasize his greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Yes. Very very much so yes.I don't know how many Serj Tankian fans are on here but on his first solo album, Elect The Dead, most of the drum tracks are from Brains sample library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound.This. Always thought his sound was a little too beefy for GN'R, for lack of a better word. To me, a GN'R drummer's overall sound should be as thin as possible without sound hollow. Adler was a good example of this, and Frank comes closest to that. Same situation as Brain applies to why I don't like Matt in GN'R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound.This. Always thought his sound was a little too beefy for GN'R, for lack of a better word. To me, a GN'R drummer's overall sound should be as thin as possible without sound hollow. Adler was a good example of this, and Frank comes closest to that.Same situation as Brain applies to why I don't like Matt in GN'R.Well something needs to sound beefy when Axl's voice isn't. Joking aside, I don't know how you can say the drums should sound thin in GnR. On AFD, which is perhaps their defining record, Adler's kit was waaaay up in the mix, markedly so. His drums were very prominent and I don't think they sounded thin at all. Quite the contrary: in my opinion, I thought his snare drum and cowbell were loud and muscular on AFD. Just my perception.Although I do agree on one thing, I don't like Matt in GnR either. Edited February 22, 2013 by brainsaber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound.This. Always thought his sound was a little too beefy for GN'R, for lack of a better word. To me, a GN'R drummer's overall sound should be as thin as possible without sound hollow. Adler was a good example of this, and Frank comes closest to that.Same situation as Brain applies to why I don't like Matt in GN'R.Matt's drum sound on the Illusions albums and tour was horrible. He sounds much better nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Just watched the vma performance in the other thread. He sounded great. I miss that band. And axl most def sounded better at the vmas than he has all 2011 - 2012. Edited February 22, 2013 by drtydane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound.This. Always thought his sound was a little too beefy for GN'R, for lack of a better word. To me, a GN'R drummer's overall sound should be as thin as possible without sound hollow. Adler was a good example of this, and Frank comes closest to that.Same situation as Brain applies to why I don't like Matt in GN'R.Matt's drum sound on the Illusions albums and tour was horrible. He sounds much better nowadays.All of this. Brain's drumming on CD is possibly my favourite drumming, but I really didn't like his live sound, esp. on the AFD/UYI tracks (YCBM comes to mind).Dislike most of Matt's GNR drumming (some exceptions, YCBM is amazing, Estranged, PC at the Freddie Mercury gig, Nightrain at the last Argentina '93 gig), but really like his stuff in VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I love Brains live work. Best drummer in GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Absolutely, Brain is a beast on drums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 No. He sounded great on record but I wasn't fond of his live sound.Yeap and that's because the parts were written by Josh Freese who is a great great drummer. Brain Sucks! But i will say it again : That's what happens when you hire a drummer from a new metal era band...He brings that rock mix with hip hop kind of beats that really annoys the shit out of me and he has no rhythm. You can have a song like Estranged and he's like fast paced and looking like he's playing welcome to the jungle...not my style of drummer at all. Matt Sorum was the best drummer GNR ever had, however Adler fitted a bit more. Josh Freese is also awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Since when is Primus Nu Metal band ? kids these days often run their mouths about things they know nothing about Edited February 22, 2013 by Dark Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Since when Primuis a s Nu Metal band ? kids these days often run their mouths about things they know nothing aboutIt is! That's the kind of band you would compare to Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Hed Pe, Methods of Mayhem, Saliva and that kind of crap music...is that even music anyways?! Edited February 22, 2013 by AndreCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Since when Primuis a s Nu Metal band ? kids these days often run their mouths about things they know nothing aboutIt is! That's the kind of band you would compare to Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Hed Pe, Methods of Mayhem, Saliva and that kind of crap music...is that even music anyways?!You don't know shit as usual.. Primus new metal?? Well, if you can compare Primus to SOAD, you can compare it with KC and the Sunshine Band too!Brain drumming was very rich, lots of styles and sounds. Live was a beast, he put so much power to the AFD songs.. he was the steroids of 02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Since when Primuis a s Nu Metal band ? kids these days often run their mouths about things they know nothing aboutIt is! That's the kind of band you would compare to Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Hed Pe, Methods of Mayhem, Saliva and that kind of crap music...is that even music anyways?!You don't know shit as usual.. Primus new metal?? Well, if you can compare Primus to SOAD, you can compare it with KC and the Sunshine Band too!Brain drumming was very rich, lots of styles and sounds. Live was a beast, he put so much power to the AFD songs.. he was the steroids of 02.That's the problem! You can't distinguish negative from positive, Wrong from Right. You're the kind of guy who would do great on HTGTH.Lots of styles and sounds is not what a rock n'roll band like GNR needs.... again... he would do great in Primus, and those new metalish crappy bands, because really they have no quality at all.... I for once listen to Limp Bizkit. They sound great but i know that music quality isn't there...that doesn't mean i don't like to hear it sometimes.Brain would do great on Korn, Limp Bizkit, Primus, Hed PE, Methods of Mayhem, Rammstein, Rage Against the Machine... Those kind of bands. Not all of them are new metal bands, but most of them are. Brain's style doesn't fit GNR.He would be like playing Patience, with the drumming as fast as Nightrain... how is that any good? it's extremely crappy! It shows he had no feel for the songs at all, and didn't understand where the songs were coming from either...he just butchered them live.He makes too much beats between bass lines, and to me that isn't good drumming. it's exaggeration! And he doesn't maintain a pattern throughout a full song (same song), his drumming sounds like a cock salad altogether...i don't like it. It sounds like every time he plays a song, he doesn't remember how to play so he just starts making up shit and give it a different drumming every time he plays it. (Obviously he doesn't do that, but that's how his drumming sounds).Don't even compare that guy to Legendary drummer Matt Sorum or Josh Freese, or Neil Peart, or even Tommy Lee which in my view is kind of average comparing to the others i mentioned, but still 100000 times better than Brian...Brian and Frank are the worst drummers GNR had Edited February 22, 2013 by AndreCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Since when Primuis a s Nu Metal band ? kids these days often run their mouths about things they know nothing aboutIt is! That's the kind of band you would compare to Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Hed Pe, Methods of Mayhem, Saliva and that kind of crap music...is that even music anyways?!You don't know shit as usual.. Primus new metal?? Well, if you can compare Primus to SOAD, you can compare it with KC and the Sunshine Band too!Brain drumming was very rich, lots of styles and sounds. Live was a beast, he put so much power to the AFD songs.. he was the steroids of 02.That's the problem! You can't distinguish negative from positive, Wrong from Right. You're the kind of guy who would do great on HTGTH.Lots of styles and sounds is not what a rock n'roll band like GNR needs.... again... he would do great in Primus, and those new metalish crappy bands, because really they have no quality at all.... I for once listen to Limp Bizkit. They sound great but i know that music quality isn't there...that doesn't mean i don't like to hear it sometimes.Brain would do great on Korn, Limp Bizkit, Primus, Hed PE, Methods of Mayhem, Rammstein, Rage Against the Machine... Those kind of bands. Not all of them are new metal bands, but most of them are. Brain's style doesn't fit GNR.He would be like playing Patience, with the drumming as fast as Nightrain... how is that any good? it's extremely crappy! It shows he had no feel for the songs at all, and didn't understand where the songs were coming from either...he just butchered them live.He makes too much beats between bass lines, and to me that isn't good drumming. it's exaggeration! And he doesn't maintain a pattern throughout a full song (same song), his drumming sounds like a cock salad altogether...i don't like it.Don't even compare that guy to Legendary drummer Matt Sorum or Josh Freese, or Neil Peart, or even Tommy Lee which in my view is kind of average comparing to the others i mentioned, but still 100000 times better than Brian...Brian and Frank are the worst drummers GNR hadOh boy.. Ok, you don't like Brain for whatever the reason.But quit with the writing without knowing. You can put all the emphasis in the world in your writing. That will never change the fact that you are dumb.Here is Brain playing new metal with Primus: What's exactly new metal to you? Edited February 22, 2013 by Russel Nash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Yes and that fucking sucks! Actually Primus sucks. I can't find one song from them worth a listen to be honest, but i guess that depends on your taste.You're the one who's dumb, proof of that is that you listen to crappy bands such as Primus...It's not that i don't like Brain. I don't know the guy, but his drumming definitely sucks. And to me even Frank sounds better than him. At least he has more feel on the songs. Look it's Brain butchering November Rain...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxI3BFSOns8That's how you play it btw...btw his Praxis albums with Buckethead are quite painful to hear to. It's not just Primus...I can't believe how anyone can listen to that. No quality at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I don't like what he brought to GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Since when Primuis a s Nu Metal band ? kids these days often run their mouths about things they know nothing aboutIt is! That's the kind of band you would compare to Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Hed Pe, Methods of Mayhem, Saliva and that kind of crap music...is that even music anyways?!Yes and sky is green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I love how this people that are so obsessive about Axl and the new band, can't distinguish wrong from right...Even if Robin for example only knew how to play one riff, he would be the greatest guitar player in the World for them, because in their mind Chinese Democracy is the greatest album of all time, and then the future album will be the greatest album of all the time, and the next one if there's a third will be the greatest as well, even if there's only like 1 or 2 songs that are good in it. You guys belong in HTGTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Yes and that fucking sucks! Actually Primus sucks. I can't find one song from them worth a listen to be honest, but i guess that depends on your taste.You're the one who's dumb, proof of that is that you listen to crappy bands such as Primus...It's not that i don't like Brain. I don't know the guy, but his drumming definitely sucks. And to me even Frank sounds better than him. At least he has more feel on the songs. Look it's Brain butchering November Rain...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxI3BFSOns8That's how you play it btw...btw his Praxis albums with Buckethead are quite painful to hear to. It's not just Primus...I can't believe how anyone can listen to that. No quality at alldumb, deaf, and nice hat!, did you stole it from Pocoyo?And yes, Primus Sucks. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Primus%20sucksI love how this people that are so obsessive about Axl and the new band, can't distinguish wrong from right...Even if Robin for example only knew how to play one riff, he would be the greatest guitar player in the World for them, because in their mind Chinese Democracy is the greatest album of all time, and then the future album will be the greatest album of all the time, and the next one if there's a third will be the greatest as well, even if there's only like 1 or 2 songs that are good in it. You guys belong in HTGTH!It doesn't matter what other ppl think. The only fact here is you don't know anything. You don't see the difference between a bass and a guitar and yet you want to talk about drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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