Dazey Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 What on earth has happened to the quoting on here since the last update? It's really fucking horrible, seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_H Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I hate the whole WYSIWYG editor. I stay in the crap one now. That said, the quotes are still messed up sometimes, even when they're typed as they were before. Edited March 8, 2013 by Aaron_H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 What's wrong with the simple plain code like it used to be seriously? I mean if you want to edit a quote to just part of a long tree it's a right pain in the arse with all this stupid formatting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfse Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Are you angry Daisy? You seem very angry. We'll fix it for you. Don't worry. Powerage is on the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 What's wrong with the simple plain code like it used to be seriously? I mean if you want to edit a quote to just part of a long tree it's a right pain in the arse with all this stupid formatting.Look, not everyone's going to like everything. Some people have said that they like the new quote function, other's don't.Personally, I like that you're able to "split" quotes much easier to respond to just a single part of a post with the new system. With the old system, it involved messing around with the tags a lot. Now, you press enter twice at the end of a sentence from inside a quote, and you're able to split it in two. Try it out. As I mentioned in the other topic, If you ever have any glitches when quoting, hit the BBCode switch to get a stripped down editor where you can go back to the tags instead. It's the best I can offer, the reply box has been completely overhauled from 3.3.x and many glitches that plagued it are now gone. It's not possible to go back to it now and even if we could, I still wouldn't for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I'm occasionally getting a quoting issue where it creates an extra quote window after clicking Post, then what I type appears in a quote. Any ideas for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Broski's suggestion of hitting enter a few times to "escape" a quote box that you're stuck inside of, just worked. Not sure how many times I had to hit it- in between 2 and 5 times. I just started tapping enter to test his theory and next thing I knew I was outside the quote box. Yippy skippy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Broski's suggestion of hitting enter a few times to "escape" a quote box that you're stuck inside of, just worked. Not sure how many times I had to hit it- in between 2 and 5 times. I just started tapping enter to test his theory and next thing I knew I was outside the quote box. Yippy skippy. It's twice... this is by design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I must've missed the memo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_H Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 What's wrong with the simple plain code like it used to be seriously? I mean if you want to edit a quote to just part of a long tree it's a right pain in the arse with all this stupid formatting.Look, not everyone's going to like everything. Some people have said that they like the new quote function, other's don't.Personally, I like that you're able to "split" quotes much easier to respond to just a single part of a post with the new system. With the old system, it involved messing around with the tags a lot. Now, you press enter twice at the end of a sentence from inside a quote, and you're able to split it in two. Try it out. As I mentioned in the other topic, If you ever have any glitches when quoting, hit the BBCode switch to get a stripped down editor where you can go back to the tags instead. It's the best I can offer, the reply box has been completely overhauled from 3.3.x and many glitches that plagued it are now gone. It's not possible to go back to it now and even if we could, I still wouldn't for that reason. Even hitting the BBCode switch and manually editing the quotes tends to leave large spaces in nested quotes, it's a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 What's wrong with the simple plain code like it used to be seriously? I mean if you want to edit a quote to just part of a long tree it's a right pain in the arse with all this stupid formatting.Look, not everyone's going to like everything. Some people have said that they like the new quote function, other's don't.Personally, I like that you're able to "split" quotes much easier to respond to just a single part of a post with the new system. With the old system, it involved messing around with the tags a lot. Now, you press enter twice at the end of a sentence from inside a quote, and you're able to split it in two. Try it out. As I mentioned in the other topic, If you ever have any glitches when quoting, hit the BBCode switch to get a stripped down editor where you can go back to the tags instead. It's the best I can offer, the reply box has been completely overhauled from 3.3.x and many glitches that plagued it are now gone. It's not possible to go back to it now and even if we could, I still wouldn't for that reason. Even hitting the BBCode switch and manually editing the quotes tends to leave large spaces in nested quotes, it's a mess.It also removes the end quote tags and leaves text indented which is a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_H Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's clear to see that you hitting quote on mine and just adding a few lines adds more spaces. This effect becomes more pronounced as the quotes are quoted multiple times.I read somewhere that Invision didn't code the RTE editor themselves, they took someone else's code and just edited it. That probably explains why it's not as good as the old stuff.Honestly, I think Invision was better when Matt Mecham coded the whole thing himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's clear to see that you hitting quote on mine and just adding a few lines adds more spaces. This effect becomes more pronounced as the quotes are quoted multiple times.I read somewhere that Invision didn't code the RTE editor themselves, they took someone else's code and just edited it. That probably explains why it's not as good as the old stuff.Honestly, I think Invision was better when Matt Mecham coded the whole thing himself. It was taking them waaay too much dev time to develop it all in-house, so they had to make that choice... other areas of the suite were beginning to suffer from lack of attention. The problem with outsourcing the editor code actually lies in BBCode. BBCode isn't a standardised "language", there are slight differences in it from board-to-board so there's simply no editor in existence that handles it perfectly. They've apparently spent almost as much time customising the current 3rd party RTE editor to get it right and accomodate BBCode as they did when they developed it themselves.IPB 4.0 is supposed to get rid of BBCode entirely and vastly improve the editor... we'll see I guess. The changes to the way quotes are handled are a stepping stone towards that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_H Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Fair point hv, and that's a problem that all companies will face when they grow. Invision's reputation was built on the quality of Matt Mecham's original code but obviously it wouldn't be feasible for him to develop everything himself. It's an unfortunate shame, that's all.I do hope they get this thing nailed, I can see why they've done what they have, but it's important not to get complacent and assume the current solution isn't without its problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 The thing that was pissing me off the most was trying to highlight certain sections of a post because the poster title isn't regular text as it used to be. Makes chopping out certain section of a quote a real pain but I've realised that if you just click on the poster name now you can just press delete to get rid of it and then highlight and delete the text in their post as before. Still a rather arse about face way of having to do things but not as annoying as it was initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_H Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Seriously, the whitespace problem is a big issue in my opinion. I can't be the only person having problems with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Seriously, the whitespace problem is a big issue in my opinion. I can't be the only person having problems with this.I am too. Beyond migrating to another platform, I don't think there's anything we can do. Invision seem pretty reluctant to do anything more to the editor until 4.0... at least I got that impression last time I read their boards.Whenever it's released, we'll be testing 4 before making any decisions as to whether IPB will stay as our forum package in the future. I agree that the current editor is probably the worst for several versions now but we're still a long way from entertaining moving off onto something else for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_H Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I love IPB, I think it's definitely the best forum software out there, especially for a forum of this size. The quoting is the only thing that I have a problem with, everything else is completely fine for me. (The odd bit of server downtime mentioned in the other thread, but that's an issue with the host, not the software) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the new quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Nothing wrong with the new system imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman2000 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I like the new quoting Nothing wrong with the new system imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Seriously, the whitespace problem is a big issue in my opinion. I can't be the only person having problems with this.http://community.invisionpower.com/resources/bugs.html/_/ip-board/cant-delete-blank-line-in-quote-r41794Looks like it's fixed in 3.4.4.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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