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I don't really know my favorite, it was Ice Cube in the early days. Think he was the most talented. After he left Eazy E. probably.

I love NWA by the way!

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Ice Cube, he could rap, he was hardcore, he was socially concious, intelligent, he was NWA really.

These folks should leave the big boy topics to you and I Mr. Leonard.

They had more, but that one album you are talking about, was absolutaly awesome!

The AFD among rap albums.

I know. I know that album like the back my hand dear. Amazing album.
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NWA and the Posse was the best, i love the version of Dopeman on that, that song was just fantastic, proper heavy fuckin' beat, like the old Juice Crew era ones, just thumpin! Ice Cube had that thing that Biggie had where, he didn't exactly have Biggies flow (at all actually :lol:) but he just made really pretty simple rhymes that just sounded fantastic. And Christ alive, the boy Cube can administer a diss like no other, i mean is there any question about No Vaseline and King of the Hill? He basically deaded NWA with No Vaseline, i mean where do you go after "y'can't be the n igga for life crew/with a white jew tellin' you what to do" who the fuck has the nerve to say something like that on record? :lol:

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It's difficult to top Straight outta Compton, not only an awesome album, but it really pushed the boundries. As much as people spoke about GNR, so was there about that album and NWA. People were shocked, which ofcourse made that album even better. Ofcourse I loved it immidiately ;). Maybe better rap groups, but better albums, than that one?

Ice Cube is just incredible. He proved with his following solo record, who was most important in NWA.

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There was a lot of people doing it before them to be fair, Schooly D being a notable example but yeah, they made it big if you like :)

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I really like the socially concious aspect and NWA were sort of the beginning of the end of that, despite being the ones to most clearly like...establish that as their thing? I love how John Lennon used to have this thing like, i'm a news reporter, i wanna write about whats going on in the world and what i think about it or like, reflect the world if you like and rap was like for a while there, the idea being to illuminate, warts and all, whats going on in that particular corner of the world. Don't get me wrong i'm not saying it should be about like, i dunno, just totally political or whatever, i want it to be hardcore first and foremost but...suffice to say gangsta rap was at it's most potent in the hands of the likes of Tupac because he had the instinctive intelligence to tie it all together and really put the message of it across in a way where it wasn't cloudy y'know, the intent behind what was being expressed was crystal clear.

But yeah, that first NWA album was just fantastic. Probably not the best advertisement for the artistic qualities of hip hop but it was a serious fuckin' statement and thanks to Dre, fuckin' slammin' to the ear too, just brutally fuckin' honest, truly exciting music of a kind that i haven't felt since...well, i guess Tupac, listening to Tupac when Tupac was alive and talking about what was happening in that day and time was just something else, it being current and contemporary and talking about a reality that exists in the world today and watching the whole thing unfold, even from a detached read out of magazines way was just so exciting, even if i wasn't old enough to really properly understand every aspect of what it was about, same with NWA.

Reflecting a reality, harming no one, telling the truth, being brutually straightforward and honest with it and riling the establishment to the point of like, getting letters from the FBI, for just being straight up and down, thats when you know you're onto something, thats when you're into like, Sex Pistolsey levels of relevance, to really effect through reflecting, your world, your society...and get EVERYBODYS attention...wow.

And all through music..

I love the thing that Tupac said where it's like, OK, so it's OK that this happens in our society, it's OK that these things occur and people are murdered and robbed and our community is voiceless, it's all OK for as long as it's kept brushed under the carpet but if those same young black males talk about it and record it and sell it, suddenly, thats a crime.

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NWA and the Posse was the best, i love the version of Dopeman on that, that song was just fantastic, proper heavy fuckin' beat, like the old Juice Crew era ones, just thumpin! Ice Cube had that thing that Biggie had where, he didn't exactly have Biggies flow (at all actually :lol:) but he just made really pretty simple rhymes that just sounded fantastic. And Christ alive, the boy Cube can administer a diss like no other, i mean is there any question about No Vaseline and King of the Hill? He basically deaded NWA with No Vaseline, i mean where do you go after "y'can't be the n igga for life crew/with a white jew tellin' you what to do" who the fuck has the nerve to say something like that on record? :lol:

Fuck Bigs flow.,i totally prefer that while West Coast percussive style raping more anyway.

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Fair dues man, i can see what you mean if it's like, a personal preference thing but fuck me man, that flow was something else, i've just never heard anybody rap quite like in except maybe Big Daddy Kane and at time Jay Z, it's one thing to rap OVER a beat and a given rhythm but to go with it? Just makes it sound delicious and more than anything it's just about breaking up and ennunciating your rhymes, some rappers sound so rambling and jibber-jabbery and almost like, nervous with their flow in terms of the energy of it but that fuckin' louche slick smooth Kane/Biggie Smalls type flow is just beautiful. Rappers have gotten so hung up with rhymes and for a while there speed of rhyming and they kind of like...took hip hop away from that essential ingridient, it's kinda like a de-musicalising of it (de-musicalising? you know what i mean). Or perhaps it's just a natural talent like Roy Jones or Muhammad Ali that some people are just up there that high.

But yeah, love West Coast rap too, there's some really unappreciated aspects of it too, E-40 i think is brilliant and very original, 4Tay, Spice 1, Alcoholiks, Coolio, DJ Quik, MC Eiht...and shit, Too $hort, is there any fucking question about that guy?

And y'know, the stereotype is that they can't rhyme and OK, they ain't on the level of your East Coast rappers often but what, Crooked I can't rhyme, Kurupt can't rhyme, Coolio can't rhyme? There's a lot of bullshit to that particular opinion.

Won't hear a word again BIG though, the man was just lethal. 24 years old, shit.

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100 Miles And Running is an awesome song, but n.ggaz4life wasn't anything special. Eazy was awesome when he had NWA behind him but I think the 187um ep sorta proved he couldn't do it without 'em. That ep was half filler and the other half was kinda 'meh'. (I like 'Real Muthaphukkin Gs' and 'Still a N.gga').

Eazy and Ren were my favorites. Ren sounds awesome on 'Hello'. Cube was the best, but I liked his voice the least...

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100 Miles And Running is an awesome song, but n.ggaz4life wasn't anything special. Eazy was awesome when he had NWA behind him but I think the 187um ep sorta proved he couldn't do it without 'em. That ep was half filler and the other half was kinda 'meh'. (I like 'Real Muthaphukkin Gs' and 'Still a N.gga').

Eazy and Ren were my favorites. Ren sounds awesome on 'Hello'. Cube was the best, but I liked his voice the least...

You should check out the Snoop song Set it Off, it's got Cube, Ren, Lady of Rage and Snoop on it, i think you'd like it if you like Ren's vocals on Hello :)

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100 Miles And Running is an awesome song, but n.ggaz4life wasn't anything special. Eazy was awesome when he had NWA behind him but I think the 187um ep sorta proved he couldn't do it without 'em. That ep was half filler and the other half was kinda 'meh'. (I like 'Real Muthaphukkin Gs' and 'Still a N.gga').

Eazy and Ren were my favorites. Ren sounds awesome on 'Hello'. Cube was the best, but I liked his voice the least...

You should check out the Snoop song Set it Off, it's got Cube, Ren, Lady of Rage and Snoop on it, i think you'd like it if you like Ren's vocals on Hello :)

Thanks, I'll check out that song when I get home :)

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Oh man I love BIG got both the albums (anything after is a cash grab) but I just love that sort of rapping on stuff like Straight Outta Compton you can just like get a fucking kit out and bash along to the words and its just gives it this mad catchiness.

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