Village Gorilla Head Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) We all know how controversial, complicated and surreal being a GN'R fan can be.But do the politics of this band affect you when listening to the music, or does it all go out the window.If you're a ''huge Slash fan'' - is listening to post 2000 music and concerts tainted by your so-called ''allegiance'' to Slash?Likewise is hearing a Slash solo from a GN'R album affected because of Axl being your favourite, and the two not getting on? Edited March 20, 2013 by Village Gorilla Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm able to enjoy both and in the end all i do is appreciate good music... if Axl does a song i think it's kinda crappy, i won't let my passion for GNR blind me to the point i will start thinkin it's a great song. If Slash makes a crappy song, the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellastar2355 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 What they do is their business, I just want to hear good music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm able to enjoy both and in the end all i do is appreciate good music... if Axl does a song i think it's kinda crappy, i won't let my passion for GNR blind me to the point i will start thinkin it's a great song. If Slash makes a crappy song, the same thing.This.Huge Axl & Slash fan, but not blind/deaf either... Just very happy that both are still rocking (and alive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The only reason why I am here is because of the music. The politics and interworkings of the band from 1985 to now is certaintly very intresting but it is second to the actual music produced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 It doesn't effect me at all, and it shouldn't effect anybody else.I thought CD was the best rock album of the last decade. I liked Slash's first solo album a lot, but thought VR was terribly boring. I like Duff, but Loaded puts me to sleep.My only real dissapointment with GnR is that my favorite rock singer has put out one album of new music in the last twenty years. The politics, who hates who, Slash-vs-Axl, Axl keeping the name, all the lawsuits Axl jumps into, the ridiculousness of having Beta manage the band..........all that stuff is just drivel to chat about while wasting time during a break from work. NONE of it has anything to do with how good the music is. Only complete clowns let that stuff effect their opinion of the music. Only a complete clown would not like music by Axl or Slash simply because of the fued the two rockers have with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I try to follow the winning team. If you're cool, I'll be your fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 no, the music impairs my enjoyment of this 'band.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I most defintely support Slash and co. when it comes to the political side of things. Don't see how any rational person could support Axl in that regard. But at the end of the day I want good music and one is my favourite singer and the other, my favourite guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't even like Slash but he has my respect for letting GNR go and having a pretty good carreer for a blues guitar player. He has fun, has a family, many friends, everybody likes Slash, from BEP fans to Maiden fans...Axl fucked up his carreer post break-up. Too much drama, almost no music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I find the politics of this band to be hilarious and they don't affect my enjoyment of the music one iota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't even like Slash but he has my respect for letting GNR go and having a pretty good carreer for a blues guitar player. He has fun, has a family, many friends, everybody likes Slash, from BEP fans to Maiden fans...Axl fucked up his carreer post break-up. Too much drama, almost no music.You could say that Axl is in a really good place now: He's touring the world, fucking chicks, making money, seems happy...I don't think he fucked up his career. It's not like it used to be, but it's still profitable, and he didn't compromise on a lot imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The Alan Niven interview spurred me to re-listen to UYI and go on a tracklisting bender. It's basically Nov Rain and Estranged with Dust N Bones and 14 Years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I loved Slash's solo releases, and I loved CD. I would go see either band live. I would probably see Guns N' Roses if the two were in town on the same night, but that has nothing ot do with any of the politics of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) I don't care about the name. It's the lack of music Axl has put out since acquiring the name that bothers me.Well you were quite disgruntled when the mods moved your Alan Niven thread to the original Guns section. You've told me yourself- you disapprove of how this section is titled "Guns n Roses discussion." But I guess I can see the distinction with you- I believe you. You're just upset about the labeling of sections here, I get it. Not the band name itself still being used. Yeah. I don't think New GNR can carry a whole section anymore. This board would get a lot more traffic if they made it so News and Discussion was a place where we could discuss all eras of the band. Segregation seems to just fuel the hatred between the Axlites and Slashites, and I won't be told anymore... Edited March 21, 2013 by Randy Lahey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I would probably see Guns N' Roses if the two were in town on the same night, but that has nothing ot do with any of the politics of the band.2010 this would definitely be the case for me. These days... It'd be a tough decision. Down to 2 factors: 1) Axl's voice is more inconsistent the past couple of years and 2) I've only seen Slash twice, seen Axl 11 times I enjoy more of the songs in an Axl setlist, but I still like most of Slash's stuff when I see him live (there's a couple of songs I couldn't tell you the name of when I'm at the gig, but I guess he has a larger catalogue of songs, too). I'd pick Chinese over any Slash solo stuff, but I still like his stuff (esp the first solo album, though I liked a few tracks from Apocalyptic Love).My dream gig would have Axl playing with Slash, Finck, Buckethead, Adler, Sorum, Brain, etc., all playing on the songs they co-wrote/originally played on. That said, I think Bumblefoot and Fortus do a great job, looking forward to hearing Bumble play his Catcher solo one more time.I just want new music from everyone who's played under the GNR name. I like Myles Kennedy but I just think Slash's guitar needs Axl's voice more than Axl's voice needs Slash's guitar. I love hearing Axl go up against amazing solos from Buckethead like on TWAT, though I do like some of the guest singers Slash brought on board for the self-titled album (Ian Astbury, Ozzy, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 No, not in the slightest. At the end of the day I don't care for the "politics" at all, yeah I have my opinions, I just don't take the whole shitstorm as seriously as some other users. They're just a couple of aging rock stars ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I hid a bunch of posts that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunzen Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 They might have some influence on my opinion if I actually knew them. But seeing as how all we do is get secondhand information based on nothing concrete it would seem silly to judge someone we dont know about something we dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 For me it enhances the experience. Listen to Dead Horse Dust N Bones and you get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) That's a good question.. to honest, really honest, my enjoyment of the current line up is zero. I don't like this band, i don't look forward to future music from them. The only thing I do look forward to is anything they might put out feat. Buckethead.. and anything Slash puts out. That's where i'm at.. As for Axl, rants and incidents is all that remains to keep any form of interest. You can keep your towels and sceneted candles.. lol! Edited March 21, 2013 by star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The politics to be honest, interests me, and Im curious as to how it ends(Slash vs Axl). But I dont let it affect my love for both their music. I support Axl and Slash. Though I respect Slash more for being able to do more with what he have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfa75 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The politics are or were reflected in the music. Many of the topics discussed today that ever happened with regards to GNR has been in the lyrics of the songs, so the politics influence my perception of the lyrics and the music as well in the sense that I may note about what was going on with a certain musician or the dynamic in the band when X song was written and or recorded.The whole history of GNR are in Axl's lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 No.THe politics of it all provide fodder for us to chat about on the forum.But as for the music....or who I listen to.......of course not.For once, Gunzen is actually right about something. None of us really know what went on between the guys in the classic band. And none of us know what is going on now behind the scenes. All we know is what little information is leaked out, or biased versions of what happened by those involved. The Axl nutswingers will think Axl is always right and that Slash is evil and the entire world is out to get Axl. Slash lovers will magnify all of Axl's negative behaviors. While the actual truth is somewhere in the middle of those two extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Well, I"ve listened to Slash's music outside GNR and don't like it. VR was okay, but otherwise the whole Snake Pit and now with Miles Kennedy, I don't like it. Tried to listen to Duff's stuff, didn't like it either. I know Izzy records, but I don't think any of his stuff gets released, never heard anything. The new Steven Adler band, doesn't sound good to me either. I think when Slash, Duff, Axl, Steven and Izzy were GNR, they made music that was fuckin awesome and will always remain so and gather many more fans with each passing day, but as far as other stuff they've done, I didn't like it. I do however like many songs off CD, because I love Axl's voice and love how talented he is. It seems to me the other members have gone in a whole different direction than GNR music, so probably the breakup was inevitable because of music differences. When Kiss made their four different albums back in the 70's, I only liked Paul Stanley's because it was the one that sounded like Kiss. I think that's how Axl's music is, it still feels and sounds like GNR to me probably because it's Axl singing. Alot of bands that have broken up, have gone in different directions. I mean one important band would be the Beatles. I think out of all of them, Paul's music sounded most like the Beatles, the other three, John was very sensitive and outspoken about political issues, Ringo was fun and George was very spiritual, so by breaking up, it allowed them to do music they really loved. I don't see what's wrong with that. Fans supported them and that's how GNR fans should be, but it seems some will continue to want the original members back and that's just not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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