How is New GN'R superior to Old GN'R?

[EvH]

I think Duff was the only original member who was technically better. Feeling is another point, though : I think the original line up, esp. Izzy and Slash were great instinctive players. Izzy's guitar fills were always awesome.

Edited May 26, 2013 by EvH

[Bruno P.]

Here you can hear perfectly what I love about new Guns - the intro is fkn amazing. While the old band came up with the great song, the instrumental, to me, is much better now and gave the song a new life.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Bruno Poeys

[Guest NGOG]

I don't think anybody tries to seriously claim that modern day GNR is superior to its past, and both are entirely different animals anyway. I would struggle to name any bands that stand up to the level of epicness which old GNR lived up to. I enjoy both eras without claiming allegiance to either.

[shotgunblues1978]

Come on now.... When you watch rio or bridge school or lsten to this I love, you honestly think its better than nothing at all? And even if you do, isn't that such an embarrassingly small victory that its hardly even worth bragging about?

Why would I watch terrible performances from shows I wasn't at? Saw them in Vegas last year and the show was great.

But I guess I should let a bad performance at a show I didn't attend negatively impact my perception of an album that I like, or the good performances at the shows that I've actually attended. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[bran]

i just like guns n roses. the whole "old gnr" and " nu gnr" is fucking retarded.

[Val22]

Axl looks happier performing onstage and I don't think anyone is doing drugs.

[Bruno P.]

I would struggle to name any bands that stand up to the level of epicness which old GNR lived up to.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Bruno Poeys

[Guest NGOG]

I specifically said 'struggle to' not that I could not. In other words I was merely saying that old GNR are one of the greatest bands ever?

[Bruno P.]

Yes, but there are plenty bands that can stand up to the level of epicness of GnR, but I decided to post arguably the most epic song

[Guest NGOG]

Some, but definitely not plenty.

[WhazUp]

I dunno if superior is the right word for comparing one group of musicians against another but rather just different.

I know I certainly have my preferences and leanings and personally lean towards the lineups of years past but one person's preferences can be another person's dislikes. I just enjoy GNR past and present

Edited May 26, 2013 by WhazUp

[Bruno P.]

What do you guys mean by "no band could create what old GnR did"?

NGOG, I'd name most 60's and 70's bands as well as some 80's and 90's...

[Nosaj Thing]

No way the current band is better than old Gn'R. They put out more albums, they had real Axl Rose screaming bloody murder and musicians that althought junkies, were writing and recording music together. Not only that, but good fuckin' music. That was a band. That was Guns N' Roses.

I think the new band is great for the time. Back then if you are wasted on stage, falling off and passing out you are cool, today you'd be a fuck up. People just want to see musicians play their favorite songs. Album wise, nothing can be AFD. It was the perfect album for the band. They were so self-destructive it was a wonder they even released two more albums (which was basically one double album sold separately) and a cover album.

Now you have a stable band but no new material coming out. That could be because Axl doesn't want to do release the songs or he simply can't afford to finish the music and the record company would rather have a reunion.

But because we got AFD and UYI I will have to go with the Old GN'R, though the lineup with Fink and Buckethead had potential but they blew it.

Definitely this. The band with Finck and Buckethead was 1000x better than the current band and had great potential.

[smokingarthur]

axl is happier with beta and some new guys. And ultimately axls happiness is what should be the most important to us as fans. And I for one and quite content to see axl loving life and living it up with a smile on his face. That guy is clearly in a very happy and positive place, and you can't put a price on that. His band may not be able to write or record a song together, bit I hardly think that matters to axl anymore. I think he's focused on having a good time and loving it all. The new guys support that dream with the same hunger the old guys had for music

Axl's "happiness" doesn't seem to be helping his ability or desire to make music. He seems to be resting on his laurels for far too long. Lucky for him he just happened to have fronted the greatest band of all time.

[GNR123GNR456]

Better: They got their shit together and don't fall off the stage during the concerts. They're also more accessable and less 'rockstar' towards their fans.

Worse: They didn't write any of the music they play, there is absolutely no artistc integrity or authencity and no spontanity. They're more actors than artists.

And that my friends is the truth.

Edited May 27, 2013 by GNR123GNR456

[jimb0]

No junkies in the band. They are a positive example for today's youth.

Yeah because Alcohol and Cigs are really healthy for you. So is getting so drunk you bite a guys leg or you and your lead guitarist kick a guys ass and laugh about it.

[GNR123GNR456]

Ron and Richard are both superior players when compared with any former guitarists. Other than that, I have nothing.

Where's the facepalm when you need it?

[Damn_Smooth]

Ron and Richard are both superior players when compared with any former guitarists. Other than that, I have nothing.

Where's the facepalm when you need it?

Check your ass.

[GNR123GNR456]

Ron and Richard are both superior players when compared with any former guitarists. Other than that, I have nothing.

Where's the facepalm when you need it?

Check your ass.

Being able to play fast doesn't equal superior. Especially to a iconic guitarist like Slash who responsible for 75 percent of the guitar riffs and solo's Ron and Richard are playing.

Nothing against them personally, just stating my opinion. :xmasssanta:

[Damn_Smooth]

It has nothing to do with playing fast and everything to do with knowledge of the instrument. Both Ron and Richard are more knowledgeable than any other combination of two guitarists the band has ever had. Thus making them superior. Not an opinion.

[DieselDaisy]

Regardless of Slash, in my opinion Izzy Stradlin pisses all over Bumbefoot. Izbo couldn't play a scale to save his life but he has punchy rhythms and songwriting skills on that instrument which Bumblefoot would kill for. It depends on how you judge guitar playing I suppose. If, notes-per-hour, is what you like BF is your man? If emotion and songwriting is your thing, Slash is king.

Edited May 27, 2013 by DieselDaisy

[Bruno P.]

He is not asking you whether you consider someone's playing more emotional or how you rank those people as overall musicians. He's stating that, technically-wise, Ron and Rich are the best duo. He's right and it's not even an opinion.

Even if you somehow consider Buckethead an equal - or even better, some people believe that - to Ron, Rich is that much better than Robin. They can play any rock material out there as far as I'm concerned if Axl wanted them to.

[wasted]

they were definitely better at making retro 90s prog rock masterpieces. and being batshit crazy.