Vincent Vega Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) The UYIs sold 7 million each in the US alone and about 18 million worldwide. Two years later TSI came out and just barely cracked 1 million in the US--a massive drop, even despite it being a cover album.Consider that Metallica's live "Binge and Purge" set came out the same year and was a massive seller. Similar releases--basically, both bands released no REAL new material, yet Binge and Purge, despite being expensive and a big box set, was a massive hit, while TSI, being just a humble album, was a commercial failure.In '99, when GN'R released their own live album, it only sold about 500,000 copies in the US. Again compare that to Metallica's S&M released the same year in terms of sales.If the TSI era lineup had released a record say in '95 or '96, would it perhaps have sold even less, or only on par with TSI?Might GN'R have been sidelined and faded into obscurity in the 90s even with a "next" mid 90s record by the TSI lineup? Edited July 13, 2013 by Vincent Vega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 massively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfriend Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Who fucking cares, we live in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If the songs rocked, it would have done alright.Concerts would have still been amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If GNR had put out new music with Axl, Slash, Duff, and Izzy in '99-'02, it would have done fine, but Axl and Slash would have had to come to some sort of agreement on the direction of the music. I think Axl should've done a full on industrial project outside of GNR under a pseudonym in the mid 90s instead of trying to keep GNR going. Metallica tried to keep up with things and it worked against them. It's almost been 20 years since "Load" happened so we're going to see evaluations on mid 90s Metallica soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 If GNR had put out new music with Axl, Slash, Duff, and Izzy in '99-'02, it would have done fine, but Axl and Slash would have had to come to some sort of agreement on the direction of the music. I think Axl should've done a full on industrial project outside of GNR under a pseudonym in the mid 90s instead of trying to keep GNR going. Metallica tried to keep up with things and it worked against them. It's almost been 20 years since "Load" happened so we're going to see evaluations on mid 90s Metallica soon enough. I think Load was their best record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If GNR had put out new music with Axl, Slash, Duff, and Izzy in '99-'02, it would have done fine, but Axl and Slash would have had to come to some sort of agreement on the direction of the music. I think Axl should've done a full on industrial project outside of GNR under a pseudonym in the mid 90s instead of trying to keep GNR going. Metallica tried to keep up with things and it worked against them. It's almost been 20 years since "Load" happened so we're going to see evaluations on mid 90s Metallica soon enough. I think Load was their best record.And you probably wonder why people think you're a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 If GNR had put out new music with Axl, Slash, Duff, and Izzy in '99-'02, it would have done fine, but Axl and Slash would have had to come to some sort of agreement on the direction of the music. I think Axl should've done a full on industrial project outside of GNR under a pseudonym in the mid 90s instead of trying to keep GNR going. Metallica tried to keep up with things and it worked against them. It's almost been 20 years since "Load" happened so we're going to see evaluations on mid 90s Metallica soon enough. I think Load was their best record.And you probably wonder why people think you're a dick.Load shows that they were capable of much much more than just Thrash Metal musically. Not only that but subjectively I'm a fan of rock more than of metal and on Load they're a damn good rock band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If GNR had put out new music with Axl, Slash, Duff, and Izzy in '99-'02, it would have done fine, but Axl and Slash would have had to come to some sort of agreement on the direction of the music. I think Axl should've done a full on industrial project outside of GNR under a pseudonym in the mid 90s instead of trying to keep GNR going. Metallica tried to keep up with things and it worked against them. It's almost been 20 years since "Load" happened so we're going to see evaluations on mid 90s Metallica soon enough. I think Load was their best record.I love both Load and Re-Load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Load was way better than St. Anger. YOU FLUSH IT OUT YOU FLUSH IT OUT. LOL Edited July 14, 2013 by jimb0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNixon Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 TSI? "failed" because it was a cover album of mostly obscure then ten year old+ punk songs. It had little commercial appeal apart from the GN'R band. If GN'R released a new album in '95-99, with Slash, Duff, etc. it would have sold 2-4 million in the States. Guns N' Roses would have been in the same boat as Van Halen, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, etc. who all had big albums in the grunge/post-grunge era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Tough to say. A new era of music was ushered in by then and bands like Metallica were trying to stay relevant by changing their look and sound.With Gn'R, I don't know if the world was ready in the mid-90s for a Slashless band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 No. Even 5 o clock went platinum.great album though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Not as big as illusions, but multi-platinum in the states for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I don't know about failed, but I'm pretty sure it would have been better than CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumbleine Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 jesus,who cares..i guess this is what it's come to and it's not OP's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I don't know how well TIL would have gone over in the 90s. It kind of makes sense in the Twilight era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 They were probably still in that phase where they were just too big to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abpagain Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 liked the spaghetti incident. Not a huge metallica fan. Never have been. Load was not great. Re load, I couldn't tell you. garage, inc. who cares, but if I'm in a bar and I play that bob seger cover, people love it! Shit, death magnetic was Metallica going heavy metal again for the fans... Metallica did what GnR should have done. Metallica > Gnr. (artistically/musically, including CD and Illusions, you could argue against that) I don't give a shit about anything Metallica. But I fucking wish I was a Metallica fan rather than a GnR fan. Metallica loves their fans, or at the very least, knows who made them. answer to question... no. It wouldn't have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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