Big Daddy Kane documentary

[Guest Len B'stard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UklI2wtJqZw

Second thread in as many minutes, sorry, thought someone might like this though, i love Kane and i didn't know there was a 40 min docu on him out there, appears to be American made, you lot always get all the good stuff.

[drtydane]

Sweet. Def gunna watch this after work.

[J Dog]

Nice. One of the best flows ever. I know Rakim get all the glory when it comes to the old school's best, and I love Rakim, but Kane was right there with him imo. He was on a song a few years ago with UGK, he can still rap better than half the rappers out today.

[Guest Len B'stard]

There was just something special about the R man. And i actually agree with you really, I mean, debut for debut, with particular attention to the lyricism (cuz i deserve to be shot in the face if i even try and diss Paid in Full) you could argue that Kanes debut, LYRICALLY, was better that Rakims, strictly lyrically here cuz you can't really touch Paid in Full and a product on the whole but i don't think you could seriously argue that Paid in Full or My Melody or Move the Crowd or I Ain't No Joke are better lyrically than Raw or Set It Off or Ain't no Half Steppin'...not that they ain't on the same level cuz they are but i'd say Kanes stuff was just a hair further although Rakim took it to some other fuckin' level on all those other albums.

Kane, compared to Rakim suffered because the R stayed forever about the mic, it was the mic the mic the mic the mic, Kane went off into pandering to women and all that Hammer-type dancing shit with the voluminous trousers and all that smooth shit, thats why he don't get the same kinda respect as Rakim cuz Rakim is somebody who you could say that he never fell off, he was just true to the game and thats that, he never went off on some RnB tip or tried to present himself as anything other than God MC, which he was, still is.

There really was something divine about Rakim, he got better as he went on whereas Kane kinda...not declined exactly but wasn't hot like that. Paid in Full was like, fuck that, Paid in Full IS like one of the greatest albums ever recorded but...even so Rakim got better and better with his craft whereas Kane hit big and his little forays into here or there kinda like...took from his lustre somewhat.

Raklm never cared about nothing but being God MC...thats why thats what he is today, God MC. Kane kinda wanted to be top of the charts, he wanted the golden age of hip hop to be like the prime of Motown was and take it over-ground and be top of the charts but like...you can't design that shit, it's gotta just happen and for hip hop at that time, it weren't the right time to be trying to be commercial, it was too new and the audience was too into it as it was to want to see it at the top of the charts by way of compromise, it was too fresh for that, the time for it to really blow up was when it really blew up with Puff and Big and Pac and Dre and Snoop and etc etc.

Still one of the best to ever do it, this post has been about illuminating the difference between Kane and Rakim so thats why its come across as sort of critical of Kane but make no mistake about it, Kane was one of the best to ever do it, it's just Rah is Rah man, he's something else.

[J Dog]

What??? You didn't like Taste of Chocolate??? You right about Rakim, he deserves all the credit he gets. But just flow wise, I always thought Kane had one of the best. When it comes to old school, I put Rakim 1st and Kane behind him for sure. But songs like Nuff Respect show that he could do it hard, before the hammer pants and In the Pj's days.

[dalsh327]

It's interesting that Kane & Jay-Z are a year apart, and it took Jay a longer time to get noticed. I also think Jay being that close to Kane studied him on "what not to do" when it came to the business side of it.

Edited August 10, 2013 by dalsh327

[Guest Len B'stard]

Jay Z exists at the pinnacle he does now because, by his good fortune, all the big rappers of his time all died or fell off or whatever and it left the game open for him but if Pac, BIG etc were around you wouldn't've heard of Jay. Jay was what the east coast had behind BIG, the west didn't have nothing behind Pac so when he died the West went hush until like, The Game came back.

Jay wasn't even a hype man of Kane, even that is overstating his position.

[dalsh327]

Jay Z exists at the pinnacle he does now because, by his good fortune, all the big rappers of his time all died or fell off or whatever and it left the game open for him but if Pac, BIG etc were around you wouldn't've heard of Jay. Jay was what the east coast had behind BIG, the west didn't have nothing behind Pac so when he died the West went hush until like, The Game came back.

Jay wasn't even a hype man of Kane, even that is overstating his position.

Jay had said in "Decoded" that Kane almost started a label and was going to record him, but something fell through or he lost interest. It's interesting to me that Jay-Z was older than most rappers (I think Chuck D was also older than his peers).

[Guest Len B'stard]

None of that was meant to be a slur on Jay, just an indicator as to how high standards were in the 90s.