Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Not gonna lie. Was totally off put by Walt's flat out rejection at offing Hank. Especially with everything that's at stake now with the truth out.Nice and shocking to see Walt still has somewhat of a moral compass. He's family. Case closed.And then you have the Hank and Skylar diner scene being very revealing on Hank's perspectives. Hank wasn't joking when he said he couldn't give a shit about family in this case last week. Nailing Heisenburg is all he desires now. Pretty interesting points here.The entire reason Walt did all this was for his family - so that at the very least, he could leave them with something. From a psychological perspective, if he kills Hank, then he would be a hypocrite and everything he did would have been done in vain. Quote
bacardimayne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 So how bout the mustache on that DEA guy? Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) As for the Saul spin off. I don't know. Saul's a great character within the context of the show. But his own show? Can't say I'm that intrigued at this point. I don't think he's a strong enough character to carry that weight.I think it's going to be a riot. Other than the characters from this show, just imagine the overall types of characters a lawyer of Saul's type attracts...it's bound to be entertaining....probably a mix between a dark comedy (ala Hangover) mixed with some drama and action. It's obviously not gonna be Shakespeare, but the concept of a show about Combo, Badger and Skinny Pete getting into hijinks while performing low-tier crimes and going to Saul to get them off sounds hilarious.Yeah, I agree....I think with Vince Gilligan writing it plus (the overall comic relief) of the characters from this show, it should be really good. Edited August 19, 2013 by Kasanova King Quote
ManetsBR Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) So how bout the mustache on that DEA guy?Can we all agre that the moustache deserves a spin-off? Edited August 19, 2013 by ManetsBR Quote
Bobbo Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 As for the Saul spin off. I don't know. Saul's a great character within the context of the show. But his own show? Can't say I'm that intrigued at this point.It's obviously not gonna be Shakespeare, but the concept of a show about Combo, Badger and Skinny Pete getting into hijinks while performing low-tier crimes and going to Saul to get them off sounds hilarious.Not saying I'm not willing to be wrong. But as of right now, I'm just not bought on it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Yeah, definitely one of the funnier scenes from the entire series. Edited August 19, 2013 by Kasanova King Quote
Bobbo Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Not gonna lie. Was totally off put by Walt's flat out rejection at offing Hank. Especially with everything that's at stake now with the truth out.Nice and shocking to see Walt still has somewhat of a moral compass. He's family. Case closed.And then you have the Hank and Skylar diner scene being very revealing on Hank's perspectives. Hank wasn't joking when he said he couldn't give a shit about family in this case last week. Nailing Heisenburg is all he desires now. Pretty interesting points here.The entire reason Walt did all this was for his family - so that at the very least, he could leave them with something. From a psychological perspective, if he kills Hank, then he would be a hypocrite and everything he did would have been done in vain. By "family" I always fell under the impression he was doing all this for Skylar, Junior, and Holly. Not Marie and Hank. They always came off as "secondary" at best in terms of what Walt cares about. Offing Skylar? I can totally understand that logic. But offing Hank? I would think the circumstances for that to occur would be much wider.I mean, like Gia said, you have a man who's poisoned a child who very well could have died, and killed without giving it a second thought or a moment of empathy. And then you end up facing off with a guy like Hank. Who imposes the biggest threat for everything you've worked for since the show began. Who's pretty open about taking you down. Who's motives are open about not giving a shit about family or placing second at best in terms of his concerns. Who's gonna pose as the biggest pain your ass.And yet, kill him?No, next question.Hands down the biggest "wow" moment for me for this episode. Edited August 19, 2013 by Bobbo Quote
drtydane Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 God I hate Marie so fucking much. Actually like skylar a bit more after this episode. So when she asked Walt about the cancer he never really gave him a straight answer did he? So did he pass out from sheer exhaustion or like he did in the car wash like when he first found out he had cancer? Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) By "family" I always fell under the impression he was doing all this for Skylar, Junior, and Holly. Not Marie and Hank. They always came off as "secondary" at best in terms of both what Walt's really doing this for and what he cares about. Offing Skylar? I can totally understand that logic. But offing Hank? I would think the circumstances for that to occur would be much wider.I mean, like Gia said, you have a man who's poisoned a child who very well could have died, and killed without giving it a second thought or a moment of empathy. And then you end up facing off with a guy like Hank. Who imposes the biggest threat for everything you've worked for since the show began. Who's pretty open about taking you down. Who's motives are open about not giving a shit about family or placing second at best in terms of his concerns. Who's gonna pose as the biggest pain your ass.And yet, kill him?No, next question.Hands down the biggest "wow" moment for me for this episode.I think you are describing his alter ego, Heisenberg - who is in it for the money, the power...and to be in "The Empire Business". Walt, on the other hand, is in it for his family...and that means Hank too. Not necessarily because he cares about Hank but he loves Skylar, his son and his daughter... and he knows that killing Hank would affect them as a death of a family member would. We, as viewers, see Walt in this episode, not Heisenberg. Walt does not want to kill Hank. Now, who knows...certain events could happen...and Heisenberg may return....and Heisenberg may have a different opinion on Hank's fate. Edited August 19, 2013 by Kasanova King Quote
bacardimayne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Walt could act like Mother Teresa for the next 6 episodes for all I care. He's still not gonna win me back after killing Mike. Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 God I hate Marie so fucking much. Actually like skylar a bit more after this episode. So when she asked Walt about the cancer he never really gave him a straight answer did he? So did he pass out from sheer exhaustion or like he did in the car wash like when he first found out he had cancer?Yeah, it's amazing how the writers can change the viewer's opinion of a character that has been (pretty much) hated the entire series...in one episode. Incredible.As for Skylar, she knows Walt has cancer, he confirms it by asking her," Does that make you happy"...referring to her previous comments of hoping/waiting for his cancer to came back. Quote
Randy Lahey Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 It's time for Jesse to take a dirt nap. Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Walt could act like Mother Teresa for the next 6 episodes for all I care. He's still not gonna win me back after killing Mike.Walt's always acted like that. It's Heisenberg that killed Mike...and it was Walt immediately after, apologizing to Mike once he came to his senses and realized it was completely unnecessary. Quote
Black Sabbath Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 So how bout the mustache on that DEA guy?I knew I couldn't be the only one to notice that Quote
bacardimayne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Walt could act like Mother Teresa for the next 6 episodes for all I care. He's still not gonna win me back after killing Mike. Walt's always acted like that. It's Heisenberg that killed Mike...and it was Walt immediately after, apologizing to Mike once he came to his senses and realized it was completely unnecessary. Yeah I don't buy that. Mike was the first time Walt killed somebody entirely in cold blood. All Mike did was call him out on his shit and piss him off. Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Yeah I don't buy that. Mike was the first time Walt killed somebody entirely in cold blood. All Mike did was call him out on his shit and piss him off.I think he was in "Heisenberg" mode when he confronted Mike because he felt that his back was up against the wall. He felt that Mike could get out but he had a family and couldn't just pack up and leave. Mike, in his eyes, was ditching town and leaving him with a mess to clean up. Mike's guys were a liability to Heisenberg and his 'empire'. The fact that Mike didn't thank him, refused to give up the names and then started to chew him out on top it all, sent Heisenberg into rage mode. When his senses came back and he realized that he didn't really have to kill Mike to protect his 'empire', Walt quickly came back....and you could immediately see it in his personality, voice, etc. Quote
luciusfunk Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Anyone know how to up the amount of seeds I'm connected to? There are 230 seeds, but I'm connected to 0 seeds, 370 peers. Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Notice the jacket Todd is wearing?i guess all 3 jackets are slightly different but makes you wonder if he took it (style wise,personality wise, etc) from one of the two? Edited August 19, 2013 by Kasanova King Quote
bacardimayne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Gia might like this: So according to the episode description for next week... (officially released content so doesn't belong in the leak thread) Jesse finds out the truth about Mike and Walt. I wonder if this'll lead to Jesse giving him up? Edited August 19, 2013 by bacardimayne 1 Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Gia might like this:So according to the episode description for next week... (officially released content so doesn't belong in the leak thread)Jesse finds out the truth about Mike and Walt. I wonder if this'll lead to Jesse giving him up?Or does he find out the truth about Brock? Notice Saul screams something along the lines of I didn't think he would end up in the hospital? Quote
bacardimayne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Or does he find out the truth about Brock? Notice Saul screams something along the lines of I didn't think he would end up in the hospital? After making the discovery of Walter's involvement with Mike's death, Jesse decides to make a change. Walter and Skyler have an unexpected meeting. Quote
Ace Nova Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Or does he find out the truth about Brock? Notice Saul screams something along the lines of I didn't think he would end up in the hospital?After making the discovery of Walter's involvement with Mike's death, Jesse decides to make a change. Walter and Skyler have an unexpected meeting.They released that as the official episode description? oops.... Quote
bacardimayne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Or does he find out the truth about Brock? Notice Saul screams something along the lines of I didn't think he would end up in the hospital?After making the discovery of Walter's involvement with Mike's death, Jesse decides to make a change. Walter and Skyler have an unexpected meeting. They released that as the official episode description? oops.... That's what it says on Wikipedia at least. Quote
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