highvoltage Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Guys, this is a serious issue. If you want to discuss the text and it's real - whatever, don't care. I'm not worried about it, but if publicly identifiable information is posted, it's a completely different story. The thread that was hidden contained a link to an external site where Beta had posted her personal phone number.If you knowingly post Beta's (or anyone else's) personal info, it has the potential to make things very difficult for us. Management will come after our site relentlessly, and we'll all be worse off for it. I'm all for standing our ground on important issues, and we will every step of the way... but this kind of thing is asking for trouble that we can't afford and don't need. We won't censor the discussion, but posting the personal information is not acceptable and can't continue.I hope everyone can understand and respect our position on this. Thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I tried to respond with this in the deleted thread.I hope that was her text. This band has to produce the lulz. They're good for nothing else.lol deleting the text from the locked thread.Look, we deleted the text because I assumed it was fake. If it can be proved that it's not, it's a different story.I get it to an extent, but you have to admit it's a markedly different stance than the one you guys took with the fake Izzy interview. Yes, yes, I understand, the universally respected media outlet GNR Facebook posted it, so it had to be real. Whocouldaknowed? Sounds to me like the attorneys put the fear in you guys. Understandable. Seems like that's what this is really about though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 I tried to respond with this in the deleted thread.I hope that was her text. This band has to produce the lulz. They're good for nothing else.lol deleting the text from the locked thread.Look, we deleted the text because I assumed it was fake. If it can be proved that it's not, it's a different story.I get it to an extent, but you have to admit it's a markedly different stance than the one you guys took with the fake Izzy interview. Yes, yes, I understand, the universally respected media outlet GNR Facebook posted it, so it had to be real. Whocouldaknowed? Sounds to me like the attorneys put the fear in you guys. Understandable. Seems like that's what this is really about though.I actually never realised the Izzy interview was fake (until you and someone else just told me) - I didn't keep a close eye on the thread besides the first reading. The fact that attorneys are brought into the picture at the drop of a hat has something to do with it, sure. Initially that was an issue because I thought the text was fake. Now it's an issue because people have been posting a phone number to prove that it wasn't.If there's ever an incident worth fighting for, we'll fight for it. This just isn't a fight I'm willing to tempt or invite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nambis Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So why is the thread still locked if its been proven that the text is real? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 100% understand regarding the contact info. Not so sure about deleting the text. I'm no lawyer, but I don't think they'd have a legal leg to stand on against you guys just cuz someone posted an alleged (and now looking more and more legitimate) text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What did the text say exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 kk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) What did the text say exactly?It said verbatim:"I'm glad everyone is happy with stolen material. Well, I guess that's it. We don't need to put anything out now. Everyone took the fun of everything. MSL and co will pay for what they did" Edited August 22, 2013 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nambis Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Basically a giant fuck you to the fans - just like dels interview from a couple of days ago. Edited August 22, 2013 by nambis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumbleine Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What did the text say exactly?It said verbatim:"I'm glad everyone is happy with stolen material. Well, I guess that's it. We don't need to put anything out now. Everyone took the fun of everything. MSL and co will pay for what they did"no...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Pitiful Beta. All hoarders and insiders open the flood gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 It said "L", not "MSL". Quit making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumbleine Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 is it anything more out there?now's the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What did the text say exactly?It said verbatim:"I'm glad everyone is happy with stolen material. Well, I guess that's it. We don't need to put anything out now. Everyone took the fun of everything. MSL and co will pay for what they did"Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm officially over Axl and GN'R. No more money will Beta and team Brazil ever see from me. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) It said "L", not "MSL". Quit making things up.Did you see the picture that was posted? There were two "text bubbles" sent by Beta (allegedly sent rather), the first ending with MS and the first starting with L. Hence, "MSL" Edited August 22, 2013 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 So why is the thread still locked if its been proven that the text is real?I guess I don't have an issue with the text being reposted with all the identifying information being stripped.It does make me somewhat uncomfortable though, being a private message and all, but it's out there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So why is the thread still locked if its been proven that the text is real?I guess I don't have an issue with the text being reposted with all the identifying information being stripped.It does make me somewhat uncomfortable though, being a private message and all, but it's out there now. Respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 It said "L", not "MSL". Quit making things up.Did you see the picture that was posted? There were two "text bubbles" sent by Beta (allegedly sent rather), the first ending with MS and the first starting with L. Hence, "MSL"I saw it but don't recall. If that's the case then accept my apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I saw it but don't recall. If that's the case then accept my apologies.No worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darknightfan Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What did the text say exactly?It said verbatim:"I'm glad everyone is happy with stolen material. Well, I guess that's it. We don't need to put anything out now. Everyone took the fun of everything. MSL and co will pay for what they did"What was the fun people begging for new music? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhazUp Posted August 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) I do have serious issues with what was (allegedly) said here by Beta:First off, the use of "we" in "We don't need to put anything out now." That is like Fernando's "my band" comment... I, for one, think that it would be a bit more appropriate if the actual musicians in GNR comment on the moral implications of releasing new music considering they were the ones actually behind said music. Let the actual people in GNR talk about what they want to do with their own music.Next the whole "everyone took the fun of everything" remark. If anything took the "fun" out of everything it would be attributed to only having one album of original material released in 20 years, little to no fan communication, and the GNR camp seeming like they don't even give a crap about doing anything about those two things. Edited August 22, 2013 by WhazUp 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonegunner Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 As much as I enjoyed listening to Going Down, I would never have leaked it if I happened to have it... This is just a perfect example of an upset minority ruining it for the majority... like in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Guys, this is a serious issue. If you want to discuss the text and it's real - whatever, don't care. I'm not worried about it, but if publicly identifiable information is posted, it's a completely different story. The thread that was hidden contained a link to an external site where Beta had posted her personal phone number.If you knowingly post Beta's (or anyone else's) personal info, it has the potential to make things very difficult for us. Management will come after our site relentlessly, and we'll all be worse off for it. I'm all for standing our ground on important issues, and we will every step of the way... but this kind of thing is asking for trouble that we can't afford and don't need. We won't censor the discussion, but posting the personal information is not acceptable and can't continue.I hope everyone can understand and respect our position on this. Thankyou.Are you saying "if you want to discuss the text and if it's real" or are you confirming it is real? How would one confirm it is real anyway?Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 As much as I enjoyed listening to Going Down, I would never have leaked it if I happened to have it... This is just a perfect example of an upset minority ruining it for the majority... like in everything.What exactly was ruined? I'm not too convinced we'd officially hear it this century anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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