highvoltage Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I've had to remove some posts and send out some warnings. If all you have to say is "fuck you!", honestly, just don't bother posting it. It's not constructive, and really only gives off the impression that what they think of our community is right.There were a lot of things I didn't agree with or like about that letter, but this particularly stood out: if you are the person in whom thinks negatively 100% of the time, whatever gets said or not said, will always gets contorted to fit your fantasy and further the hate/love towards someone you know nothing aboutIf the view is that a large number of people here think negatively 100% of the time, they are dead wrong. By and large, the majority of people here are practically begging for an excuse to be positive. Why is this point always ignored?The part at the end was nice, seemed genuine to a degree - but the tendency to continually place blame on the fans is very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gia Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well then what do you guys propose? We censor any negativity to get them here?Isn't that what they want?Are people here willing to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Descends Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 It seems the mantra of the band is: Dont look at us. Dont critique us. Love us unconditionally.One must learn from the bashing GNR gets on a regular basis. Maybe there is some truth in the fans dislikes. However, the management treats it as complaints.Its not a fight Axl n co. We understand that no matter how negative anyone will be towards the nu-GNR, Axl still wont be reuniting the old members in any way. We just want a good product or a product atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 It's delusional to pin the negativity on MyGNR being racist. A minority of bad apples may have opportunistically thrown that type of spanner in the works. But for the most part, it's a new music thing.We just have to see it from their point of view more. I dont think they shoukd take it too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st0n3r Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Well then what do you guys propose? We censor any negativity to get them here? Isn't that what they want? Are people here willing to do that? No, we are not. My two cents, of course. Edited August 26, 2013 by st0n3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well then what do you guys propose? We censor any negativity to get them here?Isn't that what they want?Are people here willing to do that?No. Where did anyone say we were going to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gia Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well then what do you guys propose? We censor any negativity to get them here?Isn't that what they want?Are people here willing to do that?No. Where did anyone say we were going to do that?I didn't say we were, I was askingIf they were to post here... you would hear no negativity from me tbhbut that's me... not sure how anyone else feels about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st0n3r Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) This forum is good as it is. That's why I support it now and then. We discuss GNR and that means both the positive and the negative things. IF they can't handle any form of DECENT criticism, I don't need them here. Edited August 26, 2013 by st0n3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 It seems the mantra of the band is: Dont look at us. Dont critique us. Love us unconditionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRanchDressing Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 When tb complains about constant negativity, I feel like they are projecting their own issue onto others. Who spends more time dwelling on negativity than that crew? Be it forums old band mates or old girlfriends. Axl looks crippled by resentment bitterness and negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I dont think they want to come here to face the music, they probably just want people to back off.in someways its evevitable that if you discuss topics, you get pros and cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cbgnr666 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well, yes, but Fernando is the manager of this band. I honestly don't care if he is "hurt". The fact that they put that out there by itself is unprofessional. All bands have to put up with this, but only this one resorts to whining about it instead of just ignoring it. Say what you want but Beta calling the admins of this board "assholes", the "complaints complaints complaints" reply,... Isn't all of that a tad bit ridiculous?And so what if someone makes a joke about the "housekeeper-manager". It can be funny, without being meanspirited. Some people, pro- or against this band take everything to serious. It's not true at all about other bands or artist's ignoring it.I've heard plenty mention this same situation with the trolling and the hate, and some have responded directly as well. Anyway I hope relations improve for the good of all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well, yes, but Fernando is the manager of this band. I honestly don't care if he is "hurt". The fact that they put that out there by itself is unprofessional. All bands have to put up with this, but only this one resorts to whining about it instead of just ignoring it. Say what you want but Beta calling the admins of this board "assholes", the "complaints complaints complaints" reply,... Isn't all of that a tad bit ridiculous?And so what if someone makes a joke about the "housekeeper-manager". It can be funny, without being meanspirited. Some people, pro- or against this band take everything to serious.I have already said I find Fernando's posts at HTGTH a bit unprofessional.As for jokes about house-keeper. Those are hard to do right. Almost all references to Beta as a former house-keeper are mean-spirited and meant to be insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I agree with what Fernando said about the "House-keeper" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 If you go to blabbermouth and look at the comments on every thread. Everyone gets it. Its like a new hobby. I was wondering how long before cvs and resumes read something like interests: skydiving, chili offs, trolling mygnr. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) mypjforum.com Edited August 26, 2013 by Randy Lahey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Money Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 He's leanred to write like axl. Lots of run-on sentences that give you a headache when you try to read them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cbgnr666 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) This forum is good as it is. That's why I support it now and then. We discuss GNR and that means both the positive and the negative things. IF they can't handle any form of DECENT criticism, I don't need them here. Constructive critisism about the music or the band is healthy,but the real personal shit,no.I agree with what Fernando said about the "House-keeper" thing. I do to. People say well they're management they should be more professional,but they've been targetted since day 1 really with some pretty awful shit.Anyone here would have hard feelings too if they were in the same boat. Edited August 26, 2013 by cbgnr666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Sad thing is we are a great bunch...I'd say there is just maybe 5 assholes here that ruined it for all of us.I really don't think it's time to throw in the towel and say everything is ruined. I really believe there's still a way for this to all work out. I think there can be a happy medium where people post their opinions, negative and positive, without crossing lines that people respect everyday out in the real world.Thank you for trying to be the amending bridge here. I hope HV and Subsy understand what a great asset to this place you are.I appreciate you saying that, I'm just trying to help out I understand a lot of the ill will people feel towards any management team and everyone is obviously more than welcome to express that, but there has got to be a middle ground where things don't get so nasty.Nope. Not when all they can do is insult the fanbase and talk about hate and racism. Fuck them. Now go ahead and overstep and delete this post. Gotta keep up appearances while absolutely nothing continues to happen with this "band." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRanchDressing Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Instead of always being negative about the negativity on mygnr, couldn't they be positive about all the positivity on httgth or paradise city? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well then what do you guys propose? We censor any negativity to get them here?Isn't that what they want?Are people here willing to do that?No. Where did anyone say we were going to do that?I've mentioned this before, I think it's worth mentioning again ...Why can't we have a strongly moderated subforum here similar to Canter's Banter where only "courteous, polite and tactful conversation" is allowed? Sort of a reverse Attitude section, where Team Brazil and band members (current and former) can visit without having to deal with the negativity and personal attacks?It's been working just fine with Marc, hasn't it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 No. They shouldn't care about personal attacks at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumbleine Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 the GNR machine is like an awkward teenage girl."did he say I looked FAT?".ban them.Manets,good job man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Thats nice Fernando. Now go do your job. And yes, this is a small step in the right direction, but it's hardly the result we're all hoping for after 5 years.... No. They shouldn't care about personal attacks at all.True. It's called professionalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gia Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I know I'm guilty of negativity (a lot of times it's just to get a rise out of people tbh)But I'm here for Guns N Roses... periodI understand where Fernando is coming from, and I understand why he wouldn't want to come here due to the negativityBut I think he's mistaken when he say's we gain something from watching the band failWe all want the band to succeed, which is why we get so frustrated sometimes.And when they respond to a question with "Complaints, Complaints, Complaints"we're left wondering if they even care anymoreI'm more than willing to be positive if it means we get more news, and a chance to get closer to the bandBut I don't think they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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