If NuGNR Were Allowed to Play at the HoF, How Will Fans React in the End?

[Johnny Drama]

Your average fan would react like, "Who the fuck are those guys?"

"Why is Slash acting like a transvestite emo?"

[SweetRose]

I picture a helluva a lot of BOOS,way more than there was when talking about Axl without even having to say his name.

Hell,maybe they should have given in to Axl's wants/demands.Maybe that's what it would have taken to wake him the fuck up!Was for everyone to love the old guys and to boo his ass off the stage in front if millions.

[D-GenerationX]

It would not have gone over well.

And though I tend to laugh at the butthurt brigade still pissing and moaning over something that happened 17 years ago, I do think they'd have a point here. it would really not make much sense.

[wasted]

Without Axl and Izzy its not the classic line up anyway. So it was just terrible.

[gunnari]

I felt mostly sad about the whole HOF cause Axl and Izzy didn't attend and Myles singing was just awful

[dalsh327]

It was heavily rumored that Axl/NuGNR didnt go to the HoF cuz of differences with the HoF management. Even BBF said they couldnt come to an agreement. Some say its cuz Axl wanted NuGNR to play...

So lets say they were allowed to play... Axl and NuGNR, while original lineup + Myles played as well. How do you think will the fans make of it afterwards? Who will be praised or be talked about more?

The tone in what Axl said in the interview about Steven and Izzy at the Rock Hall induction made it sound like Izzy made up his mind long before Axl did. Ron prob. stayed out of the loop and knew about as much as we did, he was ready for it just in case, but it didn't make much difference to him whether he was there to play or have expensive cocktails with the missus.

Slash would have just played at the end with the house band and just gotten up to accept the award. He didn't really seem to care until Axl put his statement out as far as playing GNR songs went.

Duff's probably the only one ever who's made money going to an induction. Gene Simmons would be proud.

[Graeme]

Robert Trujillo got inducted with Metallica, that set a precedent. They should have done everything or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

[ARX77]

Had Guns N' Roses showed up, I think they could've done well like

AFD lineup: An AFD song (Jungle, SCOM, etc)

UYI lineup (with Matt and Gilby+Izzy)- a UYI song

99-13 lineup- a CD song

All together-band jam into Paradise City.

No Myles at all.

This is exactly the scenario the could've worked. My understanding is the HOF didn't want anything to do w/ the new line up. IMO it came down to ego's Of the HOF wanting to be responsible for a GnR renion

[smoke]

Robert Trujillo got inducted with Metallica, that set a precedent. They should have done everything or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Same with New Guy Pepper the same night as GNR.

[wfuckinga]

Robert Trujillo got inducted with Metallica, that set a precedent. They should have done everything or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Same with New Guy Pepper the same night as GNR.

And that's why the Hall of Shame is a joke

[username]

Robert Trujillo got inducted with Metallica, that set a precedent. They should have done everything or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Same with New Guy Pepper the same night as GNR.

There's a line between "one new guy" or "just one guy left". Plus Axl and Slash were the face of GnR. Jason was never the face of Metallica.

I still think they have no business in the HOF, but I get it's easier to overcome that, than to overcome a completely different band.

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[vaida]

No one would want Axl's band at the RRHOF. What the hell does the CD-era have to with anything?

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[Johnny Drama]

Robert Trujillo got inducted with Metallica, that set a precedent. They should have done everything or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Fair point. I believe they should have inducted Dave Mustaine instead.

[Cosmo]

Best possible scenario would be if the HoF had inducted nuGnR with the others since they had no problem inducting Josh Klinghoffer and Rob Trujillo but... Well, they wanted ratings. Anyways, had they inducted the whole band, everyone should've come up and jammed to Welcome To The Jungle/Sweet Child O' Mine/Paradise City. Everyone. It'd be epic, it'd show Axl and Slash in the same stage and it'd celebrate all eras of Guns N' Roses. Fuck that nuGnR doesn't come close to GnR in terms of success and importance. And fuck... They should've inducted Gilby.

[smoke]

They didn't even need to induct the new band. GNR could've played three songs. Let the new guys play one current track, maybe 2nd. Either a giant shit show of a third song with everyone onstage for PC, or just the combines AFD and UYI for the third. Plenty of classic lineup, one nod to the current. No one but the AFD and UYI lineups gets in.

[Graeme]

Robert Trujillo got inducted with Metallica, that set a precedent. They should have done everything or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Same with New Guy Pepper the same night as GNR.

There's a line between "one new guy" or "just one guy left". Plus Axl and Slash were the face of GnR. Jason was never the face of Metallica.

I still think they have no business in the HOF, but I get it's easier to overcome that, than to overcome a completely different band.

So now the Hall of Fame gets to decide whose contribution to a band is worth what, based on how visible that contribution is to the general public? Anyone who knows anything about Appetite-era GN'R knows the significance of Izzy's contribution to the proceedings, it's likely that he was actually the most "important" cog in that particular machine... But in using public visibility to judge it, you'd never really know anything of Izzy's significance, so it's a terrible gauge of how important a band member actually is.

Either you exclusively induct people who played on "classic" albums which gave the band their "significance" and induct no replacement members at all (which to all the purists on here I'm sure makes sense). Or you accept that band line-ups change, personnel come and go (sometimes to a drastic extent) and this has been the way of it with some of the biggest bands in the world since the start of popular music and you induct everyone who has been linked with that band. It's only fair.

If Trujillo got inducted with Metallica and Klinghoffer got inducted with the Chilis then Tommy Stinson should have been inducted with Guns N Roses, he's put in a significantly longer shift than either of those two and to devalue someone's contribution based on the logistics of trying to fit a lot of people onstage? What a load of bullshit! No fucking wonder Axl didn't go, what a slap in the face to a group of really good people, without whom there would be no Guns N Roses for any of us to talk about.

That's not to say I think Axl's infallible, or that I'm particularly happy with the GNR situation at the moment, far from it, but the hypocrisy of the Hall of Fame when handling Guns N Roses angered me then and it still does.

[wfuckinga]

And fuck... They should've inducted Gilby.

I never got that. Why Matt but not Gilby?

[smoke]

Because Gilby was never on an original album. Makes sense to me.

ON THE OTHER HAND, as evidenced by 'tallica and the Red Hots, it shoudl be up to the band, not the Hall of Fame.

[Cosmo]

And fuck... They should've inducted Gilby.

I never got that. Why Matt but not Gilby?

"Cause Gilby didn't play in Use Your Illusion... So what? He's on the tokyo DVD... Man, I felt sorry for the guy.

[wfuckinga]

Because Gilby was never on an original album. Makes sense to me.

So? He did most of the UYI tour and was on "TSI?", Live Era, and Greatest Hits plus the Tokyo DVDs. Poor Gilby

ON THE OTHER HAND, as evidenced by 'tallica and the Red Hots, it shoudl be up to the band, not the Hall of Fame.

If it were up to the band (Axl, Beta, Fermanager), it probably would've been just the 2009 lineup getting inducted

[Johnny Drama]

To make an obvious point, Trujillo and Klinghoffer would have got inducted as they are new guys within an old band not a whole actual new band like GNR.

It's only one new guy in those situations vs 11 guys in nu GNR excluding Axl and Dizzy. And Gilby should have been inducted if that glorified tambourine player was.

[Graeme]

To make an obvious point, Trujillo and Klinghoffer would have got inducted as they are new guys within an old band not a whole actual new band like GNR.

It's only one new guy in those situations vs 11 guys in nu GNR excluding Axl and Dizzy. And Gilby should have been inducted if that glorified tambourine player was.

I already argued against that point, Johnny Boy.

[smoke]

Because Gilby was never on an original album. Makes sense to me.

So? He did most of the UYI tour and was on "TSI?", Live Era, and Greatest Hits plus the Tokyo DVDs. Poor Gilby

I don't want to give the wrong impression, I feel bad for him. They should have inducted him. Fuck I don't care if Dizzy is on UYI, Gilby is as or more deserving. But I can at least understand the reasoning.

I'd still like to know for sure who made the call on inductions. Was it Slash and Duff or did they just roll with Jann.

[Randy Lahey]

It would have only tarnished the name further if Axl had played the HOF with New GNR.

[Cosmo]

Because Gilby was never on an original album. Makes sense to me.

So? He did most of the UYI tour and was on "TSI?", Live Era, and Greatest Hits plus the Tokyo DVDs. Poor Gilby

I don't want to give the wrong impression, I feel bad for him. They should have inducted him. Fuck I don't care if Dizzy is on UYI, Gilby is as or more deserving. But I can at least understand the reasoning.

I'd still like to know for sure who made the call on inductions. Was it Slash and Duff or did they just roll with Jann.

The band can make the call on the inductions? If they did, and they didn't put Gilby, yet had the courage to invite him to play with them... That'd be ridiculous of them.