niceguy Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The numbers are clear: a huge number of people listened to Chinese Democracy on myspace and a lot of people bought the album.It's also true that a huge number of people went and saw The Phantom Menace. And it's pretty well-agreed that it's a colossally shitty movie, even though it made such a huge amount of money.Is it possible that Chinese Democracy and The Phantom Menace share a lot of similarities? They both were made by control-freaks who surrounded themselves with yes-men, had access to almost-unlimited budgets, and they did incredible things in the past.Or, maybe some people here are right: ChiDem is the greatest album ever, and it's a huge success, and it was held back because people aren't "smart enough to get it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So was Chinese Democracy a financial success? Make up your minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The Darth Maul fight scene at the end was the best thing about the prequels. Was so pissed when they killed him off... He was Buckethead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bards Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 They both had 20 minutes of really cool stuff surrounded by an overproduced mishmash.I nominate Rhiad as CD's Jar-Jar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD.Oh, they do. Chinese Democracy is a mark on the music industry. Remember that ESPN article a couple of months ago? It changed the industry forever. It showed art is bad for the business. It is what allowed albums like Random Access Memories by Daft Punk to have a place. But, as the article said, the difference is that, although Random Access Memories is more sucesful, it won't be rememberd for decades to come, like Chinese Democracy. Like ir or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 They both had 20 minutes of really cool stuff surrounded by an overproduced mishmash.I nominate Rhiad as CD's Jar-Jar.Jar-jar was and always will be ashba. Mees-a-gonna record and produce!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Phantom Menance isnt shitty its just meant as more of a mediative film. It suffers like CD from nostalgia expectations. People just want a remake of the greatest hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD.Oh, they do. Chinese Democracy is a mark on the music industry. Remember that ESPN article a couple of months ago? It changed the industry forever. It showed art is bad for the business. It is what allowed albums like Random Access Memories by Daft Punk to have a place. But, as the article said, the difference is that, although Random Access Memories is more sucesful, it won't be rememberd for decades to come, like Chinese Democracy. Like ir or not.I don't even know where to start, Manets. I'm just going to go ahead and assume you're drunk as fuck and have no idea what you're writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD.Oh, they do. Chinese Democracy is a mark on the music industry. Remember that ESPN article a couple of months ago? It changed the industry forever. It showed art is bad for the business. It is what allowed albums like Random Access Memories by Daft Punk to have a place. But, as the article said, the difference is that, although Random Access Memories is more sucesful, it won't be rememberd for decades to come, like Chinese Democracy. Like ir or not.RAM is also a great album. It's no ChinDem but then again, nothing really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 As many problems as there were with the prequels, at least they came out. This would be an apt comparison if Lucas was still working in silence on Attack of the Clones with no release date in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 As many problems as there were with the prequels, at least they came out. This would be an apt comparison if Lucas was still working in silence on Attack of the Clones with no release date in sight.Fuck that's funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 What happened to Terminator 5? You listening McG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The numbers are clear: a huge number of people listened to Chinese Democracy on myspace and a lot of people bought the album.It's also true that a huge number of people went and saw The Phantom Menace. And it's pretty well-agreed that it's a colossally shitty movie, even though it made such a huge amount of money.Is it possible that Chinese Democracy and The Phantom Menace share a lot of similarities? They both were made by control-freaks who surrounded themselves with yes-men, had access to almost-unlimited budgets, and they did incredible things in the past.Or, maybe some people here are right: ChiDem is the greatest album ever, and it's a huge success, and it was held back because people aren't "smart enough to get it."No. Episode 1 still made money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 What is it with all the fucking Star Wars threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 What is it with all the fucking Star Wars threads?Darth Vader is like a bad-ass Jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 They both had 20 minutes of really cool stuff surrounded by an overproduced mishmash. I nominate Rhiad as CD's Jar-Jar. Riad is a great song. Scraped is the Jar-Jar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 They both had 20 minutes of really cool stuff surrounded by an overproduced mishmash.I nominate Rhiad as CD's Jar-Jar.Riad is a great song. Scraped is the Jar-Jar.Riad suffers from the intro but I agree that it's a great song. Scraped is the weak link but it is great live as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Prostitute is the midichlorian scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD.Oh, they do. Chinese Democracy is a mark on the music industry. Remember that ESPN article a couple of months ago? It changed the industry forever. It showed art is bad for the business. It is what allowed albums like Random Access Memories by Daft Punk to have a place. But, as the article said, the difference is that, although Random Access Memories is more sucesful, it won't be rememberd for decades to come, like Chinese Democracy. Like ir or not.The only thing cd will be remembered for is its jokes aspects. That's it. All that time, money, and energy for so little in return.If that's what you consider a victory, then congrats . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD.Oh, they do. Chinese Democracy is a mark on the music industry. Remember that ESPN article a couple of months ago? It changed the industry forever. It showed art is bad for the business. It is what allowed albums like Random Access Memories by Daft Punk to have a place. But, as the article said, the difference is that, although Random Access Memories is more sucesful, it won't be rememberd for decades to come, like Chinese Democracy. Like ir or not.The only thing cd will be remembered for is its jokes aspects. That's it. All that time, money, and energy for so little in return.If that's what you consider a victory, then congrats .What about TWAT? Best song of the 2000's and possibly the best GNR song ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Solid song, but light years away from the credit you're giving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapitch_77 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I think, just like George Lucas did, Axl should sell Guns N Roses to Disney, they would do a better job making a new album than him. Edited October 16, 2013 by Kapitch_77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Can't argue with that. Slash already plays with Phineas and Ferb anyway. Edited October 16, 2013 by ManetsBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNixon Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People still talk about Episode 1. No one but us talks about CD. Episode 1 > CD.Who talks about TPM? Is there anyone out there over the age of 10 who actually thinks that was a good film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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