Axl_Fetish Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 This is what I heard when I read that, err, pre statement statement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Hahahaha! they release a statement to announce they are working on a game plan to deliver what the fans need most..... INFORMATION. Working on a game plan so at a later date they can anounce the game plan? Holy shit balls. I'm pretty sure fans don't give a flying fuck about "information" at this point. Release an album and the fans wouldn't give a shit if you talked to them ever again. MUSIC, MUSIC, MUSIC, is what fans want. What a bunch of clueless f-ing twats.It's beyond comical. How these people haven't exhiled themselves into hidding based on sheer embarassment for being the clusterfuck that they are is impressive. It's just beyond insane that these people are so out of touch they don't even have a game plan for their game plan yet. Which means they DON'T have a game plan at all.This statement disguised as an "olive branch" to fans that says aboslutely nothing is meant to appease the blind sheep. With your everlasting prasie and worship it buys them more time to do nothing. Every single one of you that looks at this in a positive light by saying things like "It's better than nothing" or "At least they are acknowldgeing us" or whatever are the reason this shit continues to happen. You are to blame. They use your blind worship as the currency they need to continue doing nothing and leach off their own fans. .What is worse in your opinion?Axl having a management team like this, where the son of his head manager releases an "update" to announce a future "update"ORThe posters on here who are defending it and acting like GnR just did something good?Haha to be honest man it saddens me more to see people defend it and act like it was a good thing. Why? Because Fernando is one person. The people posting on here are a reflection of society. I persoanlly think it's pathetic than anybody could look at that statement and defend it as a move in the right direction. It's not a negative or positive thing. It's a stupid thing. It's being ridiculous and it blows my mind that some people just can't comprehend the stupidity of it. I mean fo crying out loud he says they're working on dleivering what the fans need most...... INFORMATION. Like WTF. The fans want a new album. they don't care about your information at this point Edited October 26, 2013 by Bono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicguns4life Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Bono is just one of those guys who knows whats going on. The poster, not the guy, just for clarification purposes (I love U2 and Bono the guy, but I want people to know exactly who I mean in this case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkAboutYou Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 You can say this the first two band related people who have even posted on the Nightrain forum is Ron and Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicguns4life Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Does she think its funny when she does that stuff? I mean, I get that she wants her privacy, but with the way she acts to what I assume are the very few people that even know who she is is borderline Axl behavior. Yet, unlike Axl, we know nothing else about her and she just seems like a total bitch when she does stuff like this. I just don't get what she thinks is being accomplished by giving the finger to someone taking a picture of her. Its like she's trying to facilitate the downfall of this band's management. And honestly, she deserves to be given the finger a lot more than being the one administering it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dariablue Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 It's not a paparazzi shot. It's on Instagram. She was joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'm waiting for Round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'll never understand getting all worked up against something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'll never understand getting all worked up against something like this. So pointing out the stupidity of it is being worked up? Gotcha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkAboutYou Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 The website is moving slightly forward and they are trying to improve it that's something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'll never understand getting all worked up against something like this. Agreed. More to the point, even if you didn't find his update worded as well as it could have been or as useful in its content as you would've hoped for, I don't see how it was worthy of insults being hurled towards Fernando. If nothing else, the statement was polite and courteous and undeserving of personal attacks as a response.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Agreed. More to the point, even if you didn't find his update worded as well as it could have been or as useful in its content as you would've hoped for, I don't see how it was worthy of insults being hurled towards Fernando. If nothing else, the statement was polite and courteous and undeserving of personal attacks as a response.AliIt's the fact that the "update" said nothing. In the mind of GNR management, it was an appetizing string of sentences which should have cooled fan tension. In reality, since the "update" had no content, it caused the direct opposite. GNR fans are smarter than people think they are... or they're just used to years and years of bullshit and can tell when they're reading bullshit. Probably the second one. Edited October 26, 2013 by OmarBradley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Agreed. More to the point, even if you didn't find his update worded as well as it could have been or as useful in its content as you would've hoped for, I don't see how it was worthy of insults being hurled towards Fernando. If nothing else, the statement was polite and courteous and undeserving of personal attacks as a response.AliIt's the fact that the "update" said nothing. In the mind of GNR management, it was an appetizing string of sentences which should have cooled fan tension. In reality, since the "update" had no content, it caused the direct opposite. GNR fans are smarter than people think they are... or they're just used to years and years of bullshit and can tell when they're reading bullshit. Probably the second one.Even if "GN'R fans" are used to years and years of bullshit, I don't see how that would warrant the personal attacks. Skepticism? Cynicism? Sure, I understand. But, you can express those things without calling someone a loser or saying they're pathetic.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 But it IS pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) But it IS pathetic.I still remember fernando's "working on the vegas dvd" post. Edited October 26, 2013 by ignaliza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 That picture always creeps me the fuck out...I wish people would stop posting itthat's some seriously frightening imagery.Internet bully!..is it a man or a woman ?either way, i guess it's a scary Axl fan, probably the type that posts here and don't think much of SlashLots of trannies in BrasilTHAT'S FROM BRAZIL?! ..is he/she part of Team Brazil.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Even if "GN'R fans" are used to years and years of bullshit, I don't see how that would warrant the personal attacks. Skepticism? Cynicism? Sure, I understand. But, you can express those things without calling someone a loser or saying they're pathetic.AliI guess I don't have an argument against that point. I can understand why people are upset, I just don't care this point. Personal attacks may not be warranted, but when its your job to be a liaison (person) to a group of fans (people), there is always going to be personal attacks. Example: President Obama, CEO's of major corporations, movie stars, celebrities, sports stars, etc. It's part of modern culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bono Posted October 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Even if "GN'R fans" are used to years and years of bullshit, I don't see how that would warrant the personal attacks. Skepticism? Cynicism? Sure, I understand. But, you can express those things without calling someone a loser or saying they're pathetic.AliWhen the "update" is an obvious bullshit line intended to do nothing more than buy more time and string fans along, calling it or him pathetic is fully warranted. The "update" is an insult to the fans who have supported these guys. It's yet another episode in the never ending disregard and unappreciation of the fanbase by the management and the man himself. Not all that hard to figure out, yet there are people who inexplicably look at it as being polite and courteous to the fans. It's unbelievable how blind some people can be. When an individual or organization continues to insult the people who support them by using them, insulting their intelligence, taking them for granted then it's perfectly fine to express how you really feel, even if that means tossing out tame personal insult like "the dude is pathetic" or expressing whata fucking joke it is that someone like Fernando is the spokesman for Guns N' Roses. And that does not mean people are worked up. It just means they're calling spade a spade. Unfortunately some can never figure that out.what's also pathetic is referring to GnR fans as "GnR fans" in some weak attempt to suggest they aren't really fans. Guess in some people's minds you aren't really a fan if you call things the way you see them. Only way you can be a fan is if you praise every move the GnR organization makes. All those who think Fernando is pathetic please hand in your GnR fan card because you are a phony. Not a real fan. Real fans support In a "positive" manner no matter what. C'mon people hand them over. Edited October 26, 2013 by Bono 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 how hard is it to release a damn concert dvd?complaints, complaints, complaints.....excuses, excuses, excuses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I could really care less if Axl does anything again. But Fernando and Beta are such a joke. You have to wonder how much money the band is losing being managed by these guys. I'm sure promoters and other industry insiders think they're more of a joke than we do, and I'm sure they take advantage of the situation.Could you really? You're making us 'Mericans look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Glad to see everybody's staying calm and not jumping to conclusions. The statement was put out to buy a little time true, but! It's progress from where we were last year or even a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarstruck Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think the anouncement will get cancelledLOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARBeast Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Complaints. complaints, complaints that's all I hear.Seriously, what should we be celebrating? The "Chinese Democracy Tour," now in it's 13th year? All the exciting new music? Axl's great performances where he is fat and sings like Mickey Mouse? The lame lead guitarist who is a bad rip off of Slash? The awesome Brazilian housekeeper and her son doing a bang up job managing the band? The fact that a band that would sell out Giant's Stadium now plays in 3,000 seat venues in the US? Axl refusing to show up at the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame? No music videos in 20 years? An album that took 14 years to make, is now 5 years old and is considered one of the top 5 biggest disappointments in the history of rock music? Honestly, what is there to be happy about? DJ Ashba's Swag? Another Chinese Democracy Tour? Ron's BBQ sauce? Dramatic tweets and posts from band members that played no role in any of the music that the band plays?Please highlight all of the great things that Axl has done recently.Guns N Roses is now nothing more than a poorly managed nostalgia tour headlined by an out of shape former celebrity and missing the rest of the original cast. The vast majority of the music they play on their nostalgia tour consists of music all but one of them (keyboardist doesn't count) created. The lead singer refuses to rehearse, shows up 3 hours late to shows, doesn't do interviews and looks nothing like a rock star and more like your weird drunk uncle that you see occasionally at family gatherings who you politely avoid.They are regarded as a joke by everyone but a small circle of people. When you bring up "Guns N Roses" or "Chinese Democracy" to 99% of the population here are the reactions:What happened to Axl Rose? He looks like shit.Why doesn't he just get back together with SlashThat's pretty much the modern day reaction to Guns N Roses the Axl Rose Traveling Guns N Roses Tribute Band.Follow another band instead of being a jerk on a fan forum.Good one there, potsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARBeast Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 That picture always creeps me the fuck out...I wish people would stop posting itGod, I have such a boner.As stated earlier, they need a plan to come up with a plan?Just awful. My IQ has lowered after reading that message.Couldn't agree more. WTF was the point to releasing this statement? Honestly, if you back up this band IE Volcano, Ali, Brain, etc. You need your head checked.I mean, those posters imho do, but wow. This was absolutely pathetic and it makes Fernando look like a bigger douche. I mean, Fernando is a mooching bag of douche anyways, but this is embarressing.Good of Fernando to keep us posted, even when he has nothing to announce.Sorry, I forgot to include you in that "needs their head examined" category.By far the dumbest post ever typed out in the history of the internet. Assuming you weren't sarcastic, of course.So wtf was that 3 hour meeting about if they weren't game planning?I bet it was about who will change Axl's diaper while Beta does Axl errands for his booty. Nuff said!Caption this:"I'm sexy and I know it"Nothing sexier than a 60 years old woman giving the finger.Couldn't agree more. I have another boner. All 80 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARBeast Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They need a fucking gameplan to say something? This is beyond pathetic.There's a reason this got so many likes. A reason that piece of shit Fernando could never understand.Honestly, now I'm just pissed that Beta forgot to wear a condom and this douche was born. Not only does he lack the ability to properly type, but he makes it even clearer he serves no purpose but to mooch off of a rockstar.Pathetic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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