When did nuGnR reach it's peak in terms of popularity/public and media acceptance?

[Guest NGOG]

Oh how you all love revisionism. While genuine critics may have applauded the initial Chinese Democracy line-up, the reality is that everybody else lambasted Axl's band as an 'intolerable freakshow'. It really wasn't until 2010 that the consensus on modern day GNR began to radically change.

[magisme]

Peaking requires an ascent of some description.

Cue Axl cliches about weather not being able to bring him down or some shit.

Oh how you all love revisionism. While genuine critics may have applauded the initial Chinese Democracy line-up, the reality is that everybody else lambasted Axl's band as an 'intolerable freakshow'. It really wasn't until 2010 that the consensus on modern day GNR began to radically change.

Many people lambasted it, but at least a decent number were paying attention. 2010? By 2010 no one gave a fuck but us.

[RussTCB]

What am I missing about 2010? I've seen several people mention that year as if the band were more accepted that year. That wasn't the case from my perspective so I'm curious as to what I missed.

[Guest NGOG]

Let me add -- the only reason the current GNR garner more public affection than the Chinese Democracy line-up is because they play the songs in the style of old GNR (and Axl briefly sounded less like a Disney character).

[Bono]

Oh how you all love revisionism. While genuine critics may have applauded the initial Chinese Democracy line-up, the reality is that everybody else lambasted Axl's band as an 'intolerable freakshow'. It really wasn't until 2010 that the consensus on modern day GNR began to radically change.

People didn't care in 2010 and they dont' care now. Despite the freakshow look of the band in 2002 there was still a LOT of interest from media, fans and general public to see what Axl and his misfits were gonna do. As the years went on they stopped caring. The revisionist history is actually the fans on a GnR forum who have sheltered themselves from the outside world and simply believe the hyperbole that's been created within the confienes of these and other GnR forum's cozy walls.

To suggest the general public is as interested in or more accepting of GnR now as compared to 2002 is just 100% wrong.A beautiful work of fiction and fantasy. In 2002 people cared and wanted to see what "nuGnR" was gonna do. In 2010-2013 they don't care. Unless of course it's a reunion. That's REALITY

Edited October 26, 2013 by Bono

[Facekicker]

More public affection? On what planet?

[magisme]

Let me add -- the only reason the current GNR garner more public affection than the Chinese Democracy line-up is because they play the songs in the style of old GNR (and Axl briefly sounded less like a Disney character).

I think this is pretty close to correct. By 2010 Axl's Guns was seen as nothing more than a glorified cover band. No one, except a few of us, expected them to be anything but that from that point forward. It's not that they were more accepted, rather it's that the bar was lowered to an inch off the ground.

[ThinkAboutYou]

I would say New GNR hit their peak interest for the band in 2006/2007

[Lies They Tell]

Dunno, but I believe the peak is yet to come...

[niceguy]

Nu GNR "peaked" probably around 2001, when Axl reemerged. But that means nothing compared to how popular actual GNR was from 87-93.

[Blusky Grenfield]

2001 Rock In Rio and 2002 MTV VMA's - they never had more momentum and mass media attention

2006 Tour - amazing performances and big festivals in Europe

2010-12 "Vegas & Weddings" Tour - artistic suicide, but undisputable commercial success

Edited October 26, 2013 by Blusky Grenfield

[trqster]

2006 was the BIG year for nuGn'R.

[rocknroll41]

I'd have to go with 2008 cause that's when the mythical record was finally coming out and some decent promotion was happening and people were talking about it. Having a record of original material out could finally give newGNR some decent credibility, and promo reviews were positive at first...then a week later the record didn't sell anything and the general public started trashing it and it's all been downhill from there.

The 2009-2010 tour was good and had the band moved forward with their creativity immediately afterwords things might've started to get more positive, but it's too late for all of that now...

[CoolRanchDressing]

Oh how you all love revisionism. While genuine critics may have applauded the initial Chinese Democracy line-up, the reality is that everybody else lambasted Axl's band as an 'intolerable freakshow'. It really wasn't until 2010 that the consensus on modern day GNR began to radically change.

You mean the consensus among lunatic fanboys on forums. It's revisionsm in my opinion. People just trying to make sense of the time and passion they foolishly invested in Axl's doomed vanity project. How could they have been so dumb as to believe in Chinese democracy? They must convince themselves that at some point there really was something worth believing in.

But I could be wrong. Maybe you could provide links to some of these 'genuine critics' applauding the initial CD line up.

Edited October 26, 2013 by CoolRanchDressing

[Tom2112]

2006 - a lot of people were talking about them, the concerts were all sold out, loads of fan (old and new) buzz. Whoever failed to pull the trigger on the album in 06 or 07 really missed the boat. The closest I've seen to that in recent times would probably be 2012, GnR got some really positive reviews and got some old fan and critics respect but they also kinda blew it with some god awful tv performances. 2013 some good reviews and some positive remarks from journalists noting the band actually going stage at the right time.

Have they screwed the pooch, time will tell.

The other answer is the band are still playing so it's a little premature to answer. They could come out with a really good record and change some (I stress SOME) peoples opinions.

[Tom2112]

Nu GNR "peaked" probably around 2001, when Axl reemerged. But that means nothing compared to how popular actual GNR was from 87-93.

Are you crazy? 2001? people think Gn are a joke now but back in 2001 they had good reason to think that... Buckethead (amazing guitarist) had a KFC bucket on his head and a hockey mask, Robin was... Robin... the whole band looked weird and disjointed. 2006 the band was more acceptable. in 2002 there was some buzz, but nothing compared to 2006 or 2012... remember they cancelled the tour in 2002...

[Kapitch_77]

Nu GNR "peaked" probably around 2001, when Axl reemerged. But that means nothing compared to how popular actual GNR was from 87-93.

Are you crazy? 2001? people think Gn are a joke now but back in 2001 they had good reason to think that... Buckethead (amazing guitarist) had a KFC bucket on his head and a hockey mask, Robin was... Robin... the whole band looked weird and disjointed. 2006 the band was more acceptable. in 2002 there was some buzz, but nothing compared to 2006 or 2012... remember they cancelled the tour in 2002...

They were a freak show but they were more "popular". Things started to go downhill after the VMA performance.

[jmapelian]

Ia'd say during The 2006 mini-residency @ thehammerstein when izzy played a few shows

[vaida]

We all know nuGnR has always been heavilt criticized by fans, the general public and general media but the question is... When was nuGnR most popular, in general?

Off the top of my head, I'd say they've still never been accepted by the general public. I believe they had a legit shot in 2006 an 2008 with the media due and in turn the fans. The media was full of great things to say about the '06 shows and the professional reviews of CD were very positive in '08.

I'm not too sure *the general public* even know Nu-Gn'R exists. Their music simply isn't in *general public* world (radio/television).

[dalsh327]

I think 2002 was a good year for the shows they did do, but the cancellations did turn more than a few fans against Axl. He survived the VMAs and the tour reviews were good, but whatever the reasons behind scrapping the rest of the tour at the time frustrated a lot of people.

[Amir]

Only times I've heard of nuGNR being discussed in the media/by the public in the UK are after the infamous festival performances (Download '06, Reading '10).

[classicguns4life]

Only times I've heard of nuGNR being discussed in the media/by the public in the UK are after the infamous festival performances (Download '06, Reading '10).

Did they talk about Live Era?

[Amir]

I don't know, I wasn't in the UK at the time and didn't get into GNR until the release of ChiDem. I remember when I was in Abu Dhabi seeing a photo of Axl at the VMAs in a newspaper there back in 2002, only time I heard about nuGNR before 2007.

[One.In.A.Million]

This is easy... The closest the new band have come to being accepted by the media as a whole was the fall of 2006. During the end of that US tour the band was at their peak, and I still feel that the band missed the boat by not releasing Chinese Democracy back then. During the 2007 Mexican tour, the band felt different... Almost as if they knew they'd missed a great opportunity a few months earlier. And once that tour run was over Robin was gone, and Axl went into hiding again for 2 years. Only to have CD released with no input from the band as a whole whatsoever, just individual members like Ron trying to do "anything".

[supercool]

And I do think public and media acceptance will continue to grow. That's not to say the majority will ever accept GNR existing without Slash, but compared to how negative things were years ago, it's definitely been an improvement.

nah, it's not acceptance, it's just more indifference instead of plain negativity