When did nuGnR reach it's peak in terms of popularity/public and media acceptance?

[rockerman]

They've never been accepted, but 2001-2002 was when they were taken most seriously as a potential force in music. By 2006, even though CD was yet to come out, they were seen by most as a glorified cover band. It's kind of strange how little CD's release changed the trajectory of the band.

Its kind of amazing how much the whole aura of Chinese Democracy completely killed this band.

THIS IS THE QUOTE OF THE YEAR ....it is profound to think about how much has been utterly lost to that fucking concept of Chinese Democracy....and then to add insul t to injury it ended up being a mediocre at best album.

[gunnari]

Never...they are viewed as coverband...when they release more their own stuff then maybe..The general public doesn't care about them..

[ARBeast]

I'm gonna have to say 2006.

Never...they are viewed as coverband...when they release more their own stuff then maybe..The general public doesn't care about them..

Cover bands don't headline major festivals around the world. Cover bands don't sell millions of copies of their latest album. Etc etc. They may be viewed as a cover band by the haters, but there are clearly millions of people that disagree.

Would it be too forward if I told you that I loved you?

[classicrawker]

This year was the peak. GNR headlined several North American festivals. Public and media acceptance of a Slash-less lineup is at an all time high.

GNR will always have their detractors, but as someone that has closely followed this band for many years, I would say the last year or two have been by far the most positive in terms of public and media acceptance since Slash left.

And I do think public and media acceptance will continue to grow. That's not to say the majority will ever accept GNR existing without Slash, but compared to how negative things were years ago, it's definitely been an improvement.

And yet the attendance here in the U.S. continues to dwindle with every tour and they play smaller and smaller venues...never knew a bands acceptance could grow while attendance to their concerts continued to shrink.......

[DieselDaisy]

2001. People thought Axl was a Hughesesque figure who was sitting on a masterpiece.

[Coma16]

This year was the peak. GNR headlined several North American festivals. Public and media acceptance of a Slash-less lineup is at an all time high.

GNR will always have their detractors, but as someone that has closely followed this band for many years, I would say the last year or two have been by far the most positive in terms of public and media acceptance since Slash left.

And I do think public and media acceptance will continue to grow. That's not to say the majority will ever accept GNR existing without Slash, but compared to how negative things were years ago, it's definitely been an improvement.

And yet the attendance here in the U.S. continues to dwindle with every tour and they play smaller and smaller venues...never knew a bands acceptance could grow while attendance to their concerts continued to shrink.......

UCAP and Vegas happened shortly after a sold-out arena tour (2011) so there wasn't a need/market for another full-blown run.

[AndreCC]

I would say 2006. At this point the nuGNR moniker and band is pretty much dead and buried...

[D-GenerationX]

We all know nuGnR has always been heavilt criticized by fans, the general public and general media but the question is... When was nuGnR most popular, in general?

I don't think they are given any thought by the general public whatsoever.

All most people know is that the band broke up and Axl tours with "guys who aren't Slash". But the current band have never made any impact outside of internet forums of true believers.

[classicrawker]

This year was the peak. GNR headlined several North American festivals. Public and media acceptance of a Slash-less lineup is at an all time high.

GNR will always have their detractors, but as someone that has closely followed this band for many years, I would say the last year or two have been by far the most positive in terms of public and media acceptance since Slash left.

And I do think public and media acceptance will continue to grow. That's not to say the majority will ever accept GNR existing without Slash, but compared to how negative things were years ago, it's definitely been an improvement.

And yet the attendance here in the U.S. continues to dwindle with every tour and they play smaller and smaller venues...never knew a bands acceptance could grow while attendance to their concerts continued to shrink.......

UCAP and Vegas happened shortly after a sold-out arena tour (2011) so there wasn't a need/market for another full-blown run.

The U.S. arena tour was far from sold out mate...and in some of the arena's they tarped over some of the seats to lower the amount of tickets available to keep the numbers down to 6-8K and they still could not sell out in many of the markets......

[Nick85]

2006.

[Coma16]

2006.

A lot of people are saying 2006 but not sure I agree. I think if they announced the album during that time (and actually released it) then that would be the case - or maybe 2007.

[DieselDaisy]

I do not know why people are saying 2006 either; 2006 was just a pointless tour. It is obvious the period 1999-2002 is the candidate. It was still possible to believe that Chinese Democracy this ''a masterpiece which would drop and change music overnight.'' And you had the mystique factor around Axl (which now, no longer exists). There was a lot of interest about Axl in the music press. And the leaking of the songs also. And the fact he had this crazy genius with a KFC bucket on his head in the band.

[D-GenerationX]

Isn't the reality that the 2002 debacle at the MTV awards is most of the country knows of any post-Slash GNR?

If you asked people right now on the street, they probably think Axl still has cornrows.

[magisme]

Window into how popular culture viewed 2002 vs. 2006:

In 2002 GNR closes the VMAs. In 2006 Axl introduces The Killers.

[Apollo]

It appears that a lot of people on this forum don't understand what the phrase "sold out" means.

[DieselDaisy]

The VMAs is the one big media thing new gnr had, and Axl made a mess of it.

[Coma16]

It appears that a lot of people on this forum don't understand what the phrase "sold out" means.

[WhazUp]

Isn't the reality that the 2002 debacle at the MTV awards is most of the country knows of any post-Slash GNR?

If you asked people right now on the street, they probably think Axl still has cornrows.

This just happened to a guy I was chatting with in LA about GNR, he still thought that Buckethead was playing with them

I don't know what the public interest stats are now but I don't see it being all that remarkable other than being able to modestly play decent venues

Edited October 28, 2013 by WhazUp

[D-GenerationX]

Isn't the reality that the 2002 debacle at the MTV awards is most of the country knows of any post-Slash GNR?

If you asked people right now on the street, they probably think Axl still has cornrows.

This just happened to a guy I was chatting with in LA about GNR, he still thought that Buckethead was playing with them

I don't know what the public interest stats are now but I don't see it being all that remarkable other than being able to modestly play decent venues

I think the name alone guarantees being able to sell out modest venues all over the U.S. I'm talking a 3,000 - 7,000 seat place.

Edited October 28, 2013 by D-GenerationX

[classicrawker]

Isn't the reality that the 2002 debacle at the MTV awards is most of the country knows of any post-Slash GNR?

If you asked people right now on the street, they probably think Axl still has cornrows.

This just happened to a guy I was chatting with in LA about GNR, he still thought that Buckethead was playing with them

I don't know what the public interest stats are now but I don't see it being all that remarkable other than being able to modestly play decent venues

I got news for you all if you asked the average casual music fan on the streets these days about GnR I bet they don't even know the band still exists and is still touring never mind who is in the band............

[D-GenerationX]

Isn't the reality that the 2002 debacle at the MTV awards is most of the country knows of any post-Slash GNR?

If you asked people right now on the street, they probably think Axl still has cornrows.

This just happened to a guy I was chatting with in LA about GNR, he still thought that Buckethead was playing with them

I don't know what the public interest stats are now but I don't see it being all that remarkable other than being able to modestly play decent venues

I got news for you all if you asked the average casual music fan on the streets these days about GnR I bet they don't even know the band still exists and is still touring never mind who is in the band............

That's a bit overdone. And tends to be the opinion of the classic line-up or bust zealot.

The crazy thing is, you could speak in more real world terms and still get your digs in, which is the whole point anyway, right?

[classicrawker]

Isn't the reality that the 2002 debacle at the MTV awards is most of the country knows of any post-Slash GNR?

If you asked people right now on the street, they probably think Axl still has cornrows.

This just happened to a guy I was chatting with in LA about GNR, he still thought that Buckethead was playing with them

I don't know what the public interest stats are now but I don't see it being all that remarkable other than being able to modestly play decent venues

I got news for you all if you asked the average casual music fan on the streets these days about GnR I bet they don't even know the band still exists and is still touring never mind who is in the band............

That's a bit overdone. And tends to be the opinion of the classic line-up or bust zealot.

The crazy thing is, you could speak in more real world terms and still get your digs in, which is the whole point anyway, right?

Get my digs in? being a little paranoid here aren't you mate as I did not insult you or the other posters and I base this on my experience of trying to get friends to go see NuGuns with me only to be told "Are they still together"?

You really live in a dream world if you think most people on the streets even know GnR is still a touring band never mind who might still be in the band

And I can assure you I am not a zealot and could care less if Axl continues to milk the GnR name...........

Edited October 28, 2013 by classicrawker

[Broskirose]

Most people know that GNR still tours CR. You're right about knowing who is in the band, but almost everyone knows that GNR is still a band.

[Facekicker]

The public don't see GNR as a "band" at all. Most people refer to the post Slash era as Axl and the hired guns. Hardly what you'd call a band.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Facekicker

[classicrawker]

Most people know that GNR still tours CR. You're right about knowing who is in the band, but almost everyone knows that GNR is still a band.

And who exactly is everyone? I can just speak from my experience and tell you this is not the case. I must have asked a couple of dozen people if they wanted to go see NuGuns and none of them knew they were still together.

and some of them were fans of the old band............