ThinkAboutYou Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) perla supposedly pushed slash to check out the gig and Slash was rejected by security Edited November 4, 2013 by ThinkAboutYou
classicrawker Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 He has tried to get back in GNR many many times... but i dunno whether he would accept being included in the band. I think he wants a reunion.Citation pleaseCitation is msl's files.You mean his top secret files nobody can see but him?
Bobbo Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 When has it ever been proven he showed up there guitar in hand? Please enlighten me.
classicrawker Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I don't think it's disputed, magisme. If I'm not mistaken he admits it himself on his book, but, obviously, said it was a misunderstanding... lol Slash.Hey Amir, where did you get that Izzy at Rio info?Sorry mate you are mistaken....He denies it ever happened in his book on page 419........After he was refused entrance to the NuGuns show at the Vegas Hard Rock he called the promoter who told him he would get him in and was told rumour had it he was spotted with his guitar and top hat which he says is preposterous as he did not have a guitar with him in Vegas.......there are no confirmed sources that he had a guitar with him in Vegas................check your sources before you start spreading misinformation........... 1
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I don't think it's disputed, magisme. If I'm not mistaken he admits it himself on his book, but, obviously, said it was a misunderstanding... lol Slash.Hey Amir, where did you get that Izzy at Rio info?Sorry mate you are mistaken....He denies it ever happened in his book on page 419........After he was refused entrance to the NuGuns show at the Vegas Hard Rock he called the promoter who told him he would get him in and was told rumour had it he was spotted with his guitar and top hat which he says is preposterous as he did not have a guitar with him in Vegas.......there are no confirmed sources that he had a guitar with him in Vegas................check your sources before you start spreading misinformation...........Depends who you believe. Axl says it happened, Slash denies it in his book. There is no concrete evidence that it's true.Then again, Slash also denied he went to Axl's house at the middle of the night, only to admit later he did.
pugachev Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 From what I remember reading or hearing was that Slash was spotted with guitar in hand when he was going up to his hotel room, not the gig itself. Makes sense because he's always saying how he brings a guitar whenever he travels. Its a bit ridiculous to think he's gonna try and randomly show up for a show and expect to play. That doesnt even begin to make sense.
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 From what I remember reading or hearing was that Slash was spotted with guitar in hand when he was going up to his hotel room, not the gig itself. Makes sense because he's always saying how he brings a guitar whenever he travels. Its a bit ridiculous to think he's gonna try and randomly show up for a show and expect to play. That doesnt even begin to make sense. Some rumors or things people swear that happened don't seem to make any sense until you learn or someone proves that they were true.Not saying it's what happened here, but it's possible, even if it sounds far fetched to you.
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I don't think it's disputed, magisme. If I'm not mistaken he admits it himself on his book, but, obviously, said it was a misunderstanding... lol Slash.Hey Amir, where did you get that Izzy at Rio info?Sorry mate you are mistaken....He denies it ever happened in his book on page 419........After he was refused entrance to the NuGuns show at the Vegas Hard Rock he called the promoter who told him he would get him in and was told rumour had it he was spotted with his guitar and top hat which he says is preposterous as he did not have a guitar with him in Vegas.......there are no confirmed sources that he had a guitar with him in Vegas................check your sources before you start spreading misinformation...........Depends who you believe. Axl says it happened, Slash denies it in his book. There is no concrete evidence that it's true.Then again, Slash also denied he went to Axl's house at the middle of the night, only to admit later he did.Not quite. He first of all said the "hadn't seen axl in years", then later said he had in fact gone to his house. These two statements are not mutually exclusive, because he didn't actually meet with axl when he went up there. It's commonly said that slash denied going to axl's house, then admitted it. Looking at what was actually said, this isn't the case.
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) I don't think it's disputed, magisme. If I'm not mistaken he admits it himself on his book, but, obviously, said it was a misunderstanding... lol Slash.Hey Amir, where did you get that Izzy at Rio info?Sorry mate you are mistaken....He denies it ever happened in his book on page 419........After he was refused entrance to the NuGuns show at the Vegas Hard Rock he called the promoter who told him he would get him in and was told rumour had it he was spotted with his guitar and top hat which he says is preposterous as he did not have a guitar with him in Vegas.......there are no confirmed sources that he had a guitar with him in Vegas................check your sources before you start spreading misinformation...........Depends who you believe. Axl says it happened, Slash denies it in his book. There is no concrete evidence that it's true.Then again, Slash also denied he went to Axl's house at the middle of the night, only to admit later he did.Not quite. He first of all said the "hadn't seen axl in years", then later said he had in fact gone to his house. These two statements are not mutually exclusive, because he didn't actually meet with axl when he went up there. It's commonly said that slash denied going to axl's house, then admitted it. Looking at what was actually said, this isn't the case.He was asked if he went to Axl's house and he said he hadn't seen Axl in years. Correct?I feel like you're just trying to find a way to excuse him. At the very least, he misled the public.Marc said Slash lies anyway. Edited November 4, 2013 by Rovim
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Seems like HE was trying to find a way to excuse himself, probably because of how it turned out. I'm not denying that at all.First statement was misleading. Not a flat-out lie though, which is how many ppl cite it.
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Seems like HE was trying to find a way to excuse himself, probably because of how it turned out. I'm not denying that at all.First statement was misleading. Not a flat-out lie though, which is how many ppl cite it.Right... so he just neglected to mention his visit, and just said he hasn't seen Axl in years, making people think the (true) rumor of him going to Axl's house in the middle of the night was bullshit.Maybe not technically a lie, but it's just as effective.Makes me think the whole thing with Slash showing up at the Vegas gig with his guitar (if true) might make Slash look bad and so he denied that as well.Everybody lies, but I just think Slash is not that credible and coupled with what Marc said about him, it just establishes a bad reputation when it comes to telling it like it is. Edited November 4, 2013 by Rovim
ThinkAboutYou Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I think Slash was somewhat forced to lie about going to Axls house because really how was that going to look to the VR guys?Slash met with Beta and supposedly bad mouthed the VR band members and was repeated back to AxlI still think Axl should of come out at least speak to each other face to face
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I think Slash was somewhat forced to lie about going to Axls house because really how was that going to look to the VR guys?Slash met with Beta and supposedly bad mouthed the VR band members and was repeated back to AxlI still think Axl should of come out at least speak to each other face to faceThen why did he not stick with that version, admitting later on that he did visit Axl's house? Besides, I don't know how relevant the part about how it was going to be seen by the VR guys is. It's just not cool to bullshit like that.To be fair, Axl chose to use this against Slash, and shared it (via lawyers or whatever) with the public. Didn't think that was cool or classy, but my guess is Axl wants everybody to know that Slash is this terrible person so it was justified in his mind.
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 The only witness to what Slash said was Beta. Now, how reliable do you suppose she is?
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) I think the spirit of Marc's quote is also widely misrepresented. It sounded to me like he meant slash lies in the way that pretty much all of us lie - to look a little cooler, to avoid an awkward moment, etc. You know, a little like the way TB might lie to axl to prevent him getting angry. Edited November 4, 2013 by HubbaBubba
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) The only witness to what Slash said was Beta. Now, how reliable do you suppose she is?That's not the issue here. It's the fact Slash did visit Axl's house in the middle of the night. Slash misled everyone by saying he hasn't seen Axl in years, neglecting to mention his attempt to talk to him.How reliable Beta is compared to Slash is not relevant. Slash could be unreliable even if Beta is unreliable as well.Your post would have kinda worked if I went into the whole Duff is spineless thing, Scott's a fraud, and how Slash hated Matt, but I was just talking about Slash's visit to Axl's house and how dishonest he was about it, making him seem unreliable and the guitar in hand vegas show possible.I think the spirit of Marc's quote is also widely misrepresented. It sounded to me like he meant slash lies in he way that pretty much all of us lie - to look and little cooler, to avoid an awkward moment, etc. You know, a little like the way TB might lie to axl to prevent him getting angry.You can find Marc's quote in the forum. He said something like 'Slash lies lol' in reply to some poster here, and how Slash cares a lot about looking cool.I think it's not as excusable as you make it out to be. Edited November 4, 2013 by Rovim
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 He denied having seen axl for years, having gone to his house and not seen him. Yes, that's deliberate ambiguity. In the context of the statement made by axl, it's hardly surprising he put it that way. He flat out denied he showed in vegas with his guitar. You show me where the ambiguity is in that statement.
Rovim Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) He denied having seen axl for years, having gone to his house and not seen him. Yes, that's deliberate ambiguity. In the context of the statement made by axl, it's hardly surprising he put it that way. He flat out denied he showed in vegas with his guitar. You show me where the ambiguity is in that statement.It's not surprising cause Slash would look bad had he came out clean right away and admitted he went to Axl's house, but that doesn't make it any less shitty imo and maybe even disrespectful to everyone that cares about Slash and the history of the band.About the Vegas thing: what I'm saying is that I think Slash is capable of denying the truth, lying about it, just to not look bad.In the case of the late night visit he used ambiguity, but just because he denied showing up in vegas with his guitar, doesn't mean it didn't happen. What? Just because on the vegas thing there was no 'deliberate ambiguity' means he can't choose a different way to not look bad? you know...maybe to just lie about it cause the evidence will be hard to find and also because he's been known to lie to look cool according to Marc. Edited November 4, 2013 by Rovim
supercool Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) 2015 would be a good year for reunion: 30th anniversary of gnr....edit: rovim, i think you're a little bit crazy..... Edited November 4, 2013 by supercool
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 MarcHe denied having seen axl for years, having gone to his house and not seen him. Yes, that's deliberate ambiguity. In the context of the statement made by axl, it's hardly surprising he put it that way. He flat out denied he showed in vegas with his guitar. You show me where the ambiguity is in that statement.It's not surprising cause Slash would look bad had he came out clean right away and admitted he went to Axl's house, but that doesn't make it any less shitty imo and maybe even disrespectful to everyone that cares about Slash and the history of the band.About the Vegas thing: what I'm saying is that I think Slash is capable of denying the truth, lying about it, just to not look bad.In the case of the late night visit he used ambiguity, but just because he denied showing up in vegas with his guitar, doesn't mean it didn't happen. What? Just because on the vegas thing there was no 'deliberate ambiguity' means he can't choose a different way to not look bad? you know...maybe to just lie about it cause the evidence will be hard to find and also because he's been known to lie to look cool according to Marc.Haha! "A different way not to look bad"? Now you really are reaching. Obviously upstanding citizens like you & me would never try various ways to avoid looking bad. What a crooked bastard slash is!Funny how no-one without an axe to grind has come out and said that they saw Slash with his guitar at the stage door. You'd expect there to be one or two bystanders at a concert in vegas. Or, just maybe.......... he's telling the truth!
ThinkAboutYou Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 MarcHe denied having seen axl for years, having gone to his house and not seen him. Yes, that's deliberate ambiguity. In the context of the statement made by axl, it's hardly surprising he put it that way. He flat out denied he showed in vegas with his guitar. You show me where the ambiguity is in that statement.It's not surprising cause Slash would look bad had he came out clean right away and admitted he went to Axl's house, but that doesn't make it any less shitty imo and maybe even disrespectful to everyone that cares about Slash and the history of the band.About the Vegas thing: what I'm saying is that I think Slash is capable of denying the truth, lying about it, just to not look bad.In the case of the late night visit he used ambiguity, but just because he denied showing up in vegas with his guitar, doesn't mean it didn't happen. What? Just because on the vegas thing there was no 'deliberate ambiguity' means he can't choose a different way to not look bad? you know...maybe to just lie about it cause the evidence will be hard to find and also because he's been known to lie to look cool according to Marc.Haha! "A different way not to look bad"? Now you really are reaching. Obviously upstanding citizens like you & me would never try various ways to avoid looking bad. What a crooked bastard slash is!Funny how no-one without an axe to grind has come out and said that they saw Slash with his guitar at the stage door. You'd expect there to be one or two bystanders at a concert in vegas. Or, just maybe.......... he's telling the truth!Maybe he had a guitar at the hotel he is a guitarist after all but yeah any evidence he was at the stage door with guitar in hand?
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Who said he had 'guitar in hand'. Was it Del?
wasted Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I think "with a guitar in his hand" is more of a figure of speech, as in maybe in a condescending way, like he came to play. Seeing as Axl didn't want him there, or would see his presence in the crowd as a distraction.
HubbaBubba Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Shit, was it just some journalist's phrase? If it was we're bickering over nothing.
AndreCC Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) He has tried to get back in GNR many many times... but i dunno whether he would accept being included in the band. I think he wants a reunion.Citation pleaseThis.I've never heard any solid source claim that Slash "tried to get back in GNR many times"It's pretty well documented.1. His interviews that let people believe he was still in GNR (while Axl then released that letter claiming Slash hadn't been part of GNR for some amount of time)2. The day he showed up at the House of Blues with his guitar in hand3. The day he went to Axl's house to try to resolve their court case and try a settlement, burn VR and get back in Guns.4. His various interviews saying he would love to get back with Guns for the kids who haven't seen the Original Band perform.5. His deliberate association with Guns N'Roses the last few years (Guitar Hero... etc etc etc)It's pretty clear he wants in, otherwise he wouldn't do what he does, and i say Duff wants in as well. Edited November 4, 2013 by AndreCC
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