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Do you think Axl is haunted by what could have been for New GNR?


Randy Lahey

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People are so butthurt by him carrying the name. It's comical.

They are upset because he took the name and released only one new album over the past 20 years.

Nah. Let's be honest here Randy, mmkay?

You, in particular, were sooooo bothered that old Guns couldn't be discussed in D&N for the longest time. It was almost as if you took it personally. You whined about it, you committed faux civil disobedience over it, you continually posted threads about the old band in D&N, then cried when they were moved to the original Guns section. It happened over and over and over again. And then, and then... they allowed the very thing you had been campaigning for, for so long. AND STILL, you bitch and moan about GnR's name. Well now there's nothing the admins can do for you, because Axl owns you. And at some point in your life, you'll just have to come to terms with the fact that Axl owns the name and there is nothing you can do about it (other than run your mouth about newGuns on the internet that is).

Keep fighting the good fight bro. I'm sure one day, your magical GnR fantasy will come true. Keep the dream alive, bro. Keep the dream alive. :jerkoff:

We're all here bc we're fans of Axl.

But what is untrue about Randys statement and why did you feel a need to launch such a big attack over it?

For the people losing faith in Axl/GNR, what randy said--that's the #1 reason. Those who gave up on Axl years ago had their own reasons. Those of us who had faith in his ownership of the GNR name are left wondering why it mattered so much to him if he only planned to continue touring endlessly.

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Interesting thread..

Some funny comments too.. - hired GN'R were never going to out do GN'R

During the whole Chinese thing, I think Axl believed in Buckethead, Finck, Brain to deliver a sound that came close to his idea of perfection. For one reason or another, all 3 bailed. This in turn left Axl with a dilemma, quit, or take on anyone (bar anyone who had quit on him) who could learn in no time to play live (the songs). That's where Frank, Dj, Bumblefoot come in. These's guy's arn't a patch on the previous hiredhands, and Axl speaks highly of them ? ..i guess without them, he couldn't continue, and money had to be made..

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Sure he is haunted but he brought that to himself. I don´t don´t what happened to Axl. What make him believe that he and only he is GN´R?

What make him believe that fans wouldn´t care anymore about the original band and everything they accomplished together?

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I know that for years, Axl Rose blamed all his failure on Slash, but I don't see how in 2013, he can honestly still blame Slash for his own lack of involvement in a brand name he fought so hard to keep.

Axl Rose must know by now that it's nobodys fault but his own.

He can blame Slash and the record company all he wants, but what is keeping him from communicating with his fans (Tweeting, for example)?

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It's like Axl thought he was right, as against the grain as what he did was, he felt he was right, as much as the fans didn't get it or the label didn't want it, he felt he was right, as much as the label will never support it, he felt he was right. He felt he had the right to make the next GNR album without any other members. Arrogance, folly, genius, banal, justified - everyone has their opinion. But Axl Rose thought it was the right thing to do.

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But do you think he thought it was right, wasted?

Yes, he thought he was right for 2 reason mainly. 1) Axl believes he is always right 2) He didn´t have people around him giving him a good advice and looking for the best interest of the band and it´s members.

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But do you think he thought it was right, wasted?

I guess so.

But do you think he thought it was right, wasted?

Yes, he thought he was right for 2 reason mainly. 1) Axl believes he is always right 2) He didn´t have people around him giving him a good advice and looking for the best interest of the band and it´s members.

I think also, those guys left, in a way they challenged Axl to do it.

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Yes. The 2002 lineup had the chance to be bigger than the originals, but axl ran it into the ground.

Not a chance. Not even close to the classic line up. I love the 2002 band Axl had. It was exciting and very talented, but that's just a ridiculous statement.

It could've, in a different way though.

They wouldn't have been known for the raw music of old GnR. They could've been famous for industrial rock or modern rock like the original version of The Blues. That stuff was popular in the early 2000's.

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Yes. The 2002 lineup had the chance to be bigger than the originals, but axl ran it into the ground.

Not a chance. Not even close to the classic line up. I love the 2002 band Axl had. It was exciting and very talented, but that's just a ridiculous statement.

It could've, in a different way though.

They wouldn't have been known for the raw music of old GnR. They could've been famous for industrial rock or modern rock like the original version of The Blues. That stuff was popular in the early 2000's.

No chance to be bigger then old Gn'R. In Anyway. Saying there was a chance for them to be famous for industrial rock is very different then what you said in your previous post.

As popular as it was in the early 2000's, it could have never compared cause old Guns were in their prime, Axl was in his prime back then and rock was way more popular.

Old Guns were the biggest band in the world back then, so reaching that status was just not possible for the 2002 line up.

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People are so butthurt by him carrying the name. It's comical.

They are upset because he took the name and released only one new album over the past 20 years.

It would have been worse if GN'R was disbanded and no new GN'R music was ever released. One record is simply infinitely better than zero record. And we might get more.

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GNR couldn't be big for industrial or nu mental really. CD is like their Achtung Baby, but maybe it's not as big a change as that. Songs like IRS, SOD, TWAT, Catcher, Madagascar, TIL are pretty unaffected by nu metal. Some of the songs like Better, Riad, Sorry seem like natural evolutions of GNR. To me it's really only Shackler's, ITW, Scraped, Prostitute which push it beyond what you'd expect from GNR.

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People are so butthurt by him carrying the name. It's comical.

They are upset because he took the name and released only one new album over the past 20 years.

It would have been worse if GN'R was disbanded and no new GN'R music was ever released. One record is simply infinitely better than zero record. And we might get more.

I'd rather have multiple Axl Rose solo albums.

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Great question. Although I can't recall sources right now, I've heard people say that Robin was Axl's Randy Rhodes. I wonder if Axl started to feel defeated when Robin left?

Interesting to hear this. I am willing to bet he at least feels regret about anyone from the 2001-2002 lineup leaving. He seemed to really love Buckethead for his technical ability and the persona he brought to the band, while Robin seemed to be more of his partner-in-crime (like Tommy).

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