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[Iron MikeyJ]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

[classicrawker]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

I heard rumours that shows were cancelled last tour because they were battling again but who knows...........I don't know that Sammy would do it again as the last reunion tour was not much fun for him based on a recent interview he did on Howard Stern............

[Powerage5]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

This. Most bands are smart enough to know when they need to get back their classic singer or call it quits. Same thing is going on in Anthrax; Scott Ian absolute does not like Joey Belladonna still, but they're able to have a solid working relationship. And, much like VH, they also put out one of the best albums of their career when they got back together

[dalsh327]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

This. Most bands are smart enough to know when they need to get back their classic singer or call it quits. Same thing is going on in Anthrax; Scott Ian absolute does not like Joey Belladonna still, but they're able to have a solid working relationship. And, much like VH, they also put out one of the best albums of their career when they got back together

Getting Mike back would definitely stir up ticket sales.

[DR DOOM]

I must admit I don't feel the same about them without Michael Anthony.

[classicrawker]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

This. Most bands are smart enough to know when they need to get back their classic singer or call it quits. Same thing is going on in Anthrax; Scott Ian absolute does not like Joey Belladonna still, but they're able to have a solid working relationship. And, much like VH, they also put out one of the best albums of their career when they got back together

Getting Mike back would definitely stir up ticket sales.

Don't know mate as much as I respect Michael I doubt he was the big draw in the band...............

[ZoSoRose]

I love Mikey but I hate to say it, Wolfie did pretty good on the record and tour. Michael has Chickenfoot, which is also a really good band

[Spuffy78]

[Chewbacca]

I love Mikey but I hate to say it, Wolfie did pretty good on the record and tour. Michael has Chickenfoot, which is also a really good band

Wolfgang is doing just fine. He adds a lot of volume to the band.

[Powerage5]

Plus Wolfie is FAR better technically. Let's see Michael play the intro to China Town

[classicrawker]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

This. Most bands are smart enough to know when they need to get back their classic singer or call it quits. Same thing is going on in Anthrax; Scott Ian absolute does not like Joey Belladonna still, but they're able to have a solid working relationship. .

I guess Axl did not get the memo on that concept................

[Powerage5]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

This. Most bands are smart enough to know when they need to get back their classic singer or call it quits. Same thing is going on in Anthrax; Scott Ian absolute does not like Joey Belladonna still, but they're able to have a solid working relationship. .

I guess Axl did not get the memo on that concept................

I think the difference is Axl is still able to make a living without the old band. I don't wanna turn this thread of all things into an Axl vs. Slash battle ( ), but despite what you think of the current band and their popularity, there really is no denying they're still making good money one way or another. You take a band like Anthrax, from 2000-2010 they had John Bush in 2 different incarnations, Joey Belladonna in 2 incarnations, and the Dan Nelson fiasco. They took 8 years to release Worship Music for the sole reason that Scott and Charlie fired singers so often. Their income at gigs was so subpar that they were essentially forced to settle things with Joey, or disband Anthrax. If Axl were in a similar scenario, the current state of GN'R might be very different

[Iron MikeyJ]

I do get the feeling that Axl is fairly smart with his money. I've never heard about any money problems.

As for VH, I'm sure Eddie is pretty freaking set (finacially). I have no reason to think that VH reunited for that reason either. That's the difference from a band like Anthrax. VH reunited because Eddie wanted to play music with his son, well who better to get play drums than Alex? If Eddie and Alex are in a band, then it is Van Halen. If the band called Van Halen is going to exist, only 2 people can sing, DLR or Sammy. IMO, I think Wolfie wanted to play the old shit, and probably had a lot more to do with getting Dave back then we realize. I'm not saying thats the only reason, but it sorta feels that way. If Wolfie didn't play music, I'm not sure a VH reunion would have happened. Eddie may have just stayed retired.

[dalsh327]

I do get the feeling that Axl is fairly smart with his money. I've never heard about any money problems.

As for VH, I'm sure Eddie is pretty freaking set (finacially). I have no reason to think that VH reunited for that reason either. That's the difference from a band like Anthrax. VH reunited because Eddie wanted to play music with his son, well who better to get play drums than Alex? If Eddie and Alex are in a band, then it is Van Halen. If the band called Van Halen is going to exist, only 2 people can sing, DLR or Sammy. IMO, I think Wolfie wanted to play the old shit, and probably had a lot more to do with getting Dave back then we realize. I'm not saying thats the only reason, but it sorta feels that way. If Wolfie didn't play music, I'm not sure a VH reunion would have happened. Eddie may have just stayed retired.

I think part of why GNR toured so much on UYI was because they wanted to be financially set. It took a toll on them.

Everyone's said that Wolf's interest in doing the old songs live with Dave singing was what finally got Ed to change his mind, but what surprised everyone was Dave's decision not to go to the Rock Hall out of respect to Eddie. I just think Ed had a lot thrown at him in a small space of time, and had a meltdown. I'm sure Azoff made it known to Dave if he went to the induction, there would be no tour, which also meant Azoff not getting money out of it either. A lucrative tour or a banquet hall where you pay to be the guest of honor??

So when people bitch about Axl snubbing the Rock Hall, Van Halen didn't go and it wasn't Velvet Revolver's best moment, either.

[classicrawker]

Well they did make through 2 tours and recording adkot, so I'm hopefull. I think eddie and alex know that its DLR or retirement at this point. Well maybe Sammy??? But those are the only options for the band Van Halen at this point.

This. Most bands are smart enough to know when they need to get back their classic singer or call it quits. Same thing is going on in Anthrax; Scott Ian absolute does not like Joey Belladonna still, but they're able to have a solid working relationship. .

I guess Axl did not get the memo on that concept................

I think the difference is Axl is still able to make a living without the old band. I don't wanna turn this thread of all things into an Axl vs. Slash battle ( ), but despite what you think of the current band and their popularity, there really is no denying they're still making good money one way or another. You take a band like Anthrax, from 2000-2010 they had John Bush in 2 different incarnations, Joey Belladonna in 2 incarnations, and the Dan Nelson fiasco. They took 8 years to release Worship Music for the sole reason that Scott and Charlie fired singers so often. Their income at gigs was so subpar that they were essentially forced to settle things with Joey, or disband Anthrax. If Axl were in a similar scenario, the current state of GN'R might be very different

So what are you saying? If Axl was not making money milking the GnR brand name he would work with Slash again for the $$$? .................and who exactly are " they" in GnR?...you talk like the other band members are of any consequence to the bands popularity........Axl is NuGnR these days mate the other members are just employees and are disposable. Axl could replace every musician in that band tomorrow and it would not impact things one way or another s they have never released new music they all wrote together and people come to NuGuns shows to hear Axl sing the old hits not Bumble make elephant noises on his guitar.......that we pretty much proven when Bucket, Finck, and Brain left yes?.......Axl never missed a beat and the fans did not notice the difference....

As far as what I think of the current band, I think I am being realistic when I say it really is not GnR anymore as Axl has turned it into a legacy band and makes a nice living continuously touring off of the old bands material. I don't see that as a criticism but rather what is present day reality. Until Axl releases new music with the current band, and they establish their own identity, I don't see how anyone can argue differently................just to bring this sort of back on topic that is what Van Halen did after they booted Diamond Dave. They made several albums with Sammy and even one with Gary Cherone in an attempt to establish the new lineups identity............IMHO of course..........

Edited December 13, 2013 by classicrawker

[ZoSoRose]

Axl is retarded with money, that is a fact. Insane parties no one wanted on the UYI tour and a 14 million dollar album are examples, for instance.

I do get the feeling that Axl is fairly smart with his money. I've never heard about any money problems.

As for VH, I'm sure Eddie is pretty freaking set (finacially). I have no reason to think that VH reunited for that reason either. That's the difference from a band like Anthrax. VH reunited because Eddie wanted to play music with his son, well who better to get play drums than Alex? If Eddie and Alex are in a band, then it is Van Halen. If the band called Van Halen is going to exist, only 2 people can sing, DLR or Sammy. IMO, I think Wolfie wanted to play the old shit, and probably had a lot more to do with getting Dave back then we realize. I'm not saying thats the only reason, but it sorta feels that way. If Wolfie didn't play music, I'm not sure a VH reunion would have happened. Eddie may have just stayed retired.

I think part of why GNR toured so much on UYI was because they wanted to be financially set. It took a toll on them.

Everyone's said that Wolf's interest in doing the old songs live with Dave singing was what finally got Ed to change his mind, but what surprised everyone was Dave's decision not to go to the Rock Hall out of respect to Eddie. I just think Ed had a lot thrown at him in a small space of time, and had a meltdown. I'm sure Azoff made it known to Dave if he went to the induction, there would be no tour, which also meant Azoff not getting money out of it either. A lucrative tour or a banquet hall where you pay to be the guest of honor??

So when people bitch about Axl snubbing the Rock Hall, Van Halen didn't go and it wasn't Velvet Revolver's best moment, either.

And the Van Halen instance was wayyyy worse than the GNR scenario. Yeah, it sucked that Izzy and Axl didn't go, but they managed to pull together with Gilby and Myles and get a one- off, functioning GNR line up for one night only and it was an amazing performance handled with as much class as possible to all those who were there.

The Van Halen induction was a debacle, and if Velvet Revolver actually argued with members of the band over what to play like rumors suggest, I am speechless, that is just so stupid

[RussTCB]

Figured I'd just bump this one as it's the newest of the VH threads:

Listening to the second LP of aDKoT again right now and man oh man do I love this album. When I've listened to it on vinyl, I've listened to the first LP a lot more than the second for some reason so that's why I threw this one on tonight. So many jams on this record, I wish to hell more people knew how much this thing rocks.

[Powerage5]

Some of my favorite VH tracks are on ADKOT. It amazes me there's people that think it's a lame/boring album.

[mrandyk]

Some of my favorite VH tracks are on ADKOT. It amazes me there's people that think it's a lame/boring album.

Fits right in with their original albums, it's great.

[Nick83]

Who's going to see VH for Dave's voice? I go to hear an awesome band, Eddie's guitar wizardry, and i go to watch Dave strutting his stuff, telling stories, and just being an overall awesome frontman.

Besides, Dave sounded fine at the show I went to. I don't understand all the hate for Dave. His voice is not one to be analyzed. It's not like he's known for his range or vocal tricks.

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Wasn't ADKOT a compilation of old unused riffs? This album won't live up.

I think it was a mix of both, old demos as well as new stuff.

Either way, it was great, and I look forward to more!

I love that they borrowed heavily from old demos. It's like we got a lost Van Halen album from the 70s. I expected a pile of crap album from the reunion, but they absolutely blew me away. I do know now though to not go several hours out of my way to see the live shows though, Dave does everything within his power to ruin them.

Never saw 'em live. What is Dave doing?

I saw them live in April here in Australia, and while the band sounded absolutely amazing, DLR was all over the place, out of key, out of tune, and completely out of sync.
It's like he couldn't even hear the band he was that much out of time. Maybe he couldn't...

[ZoSoRose]

Even if Dave kinda sucked at my gig, there is no one I else I wanted to see up there with Alex and Eddie. He was still a killer front man!

I've seen Sammy twice- once with Chickenfoot and once solo. He was incredible both times, but you just can't beat Diamond Dave with Van Halen