classicrawker Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maybe not too many Allman fans on this forum so most of you might not GaF but I was shocked when I read this as I can't see the band continuing without these two guys............http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/warren-haynes-and-derek-trucks-leaving-allman-brothers-band-20140108Even though it is the Allman Brothers Band in name only these days much like NuGuns they put on amazing live shows and Trucks and Haynes are the main reason IMHO.........Hope I can catch them before the end of the year.........sadly another amazing band might bite the dust................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixes Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 aren't they celebrating their 45th anniversary this year?i'm not the biggest allman bros fan but i do like trucks's albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 aren't they celebrating their 45th anniversary this year?i'm not the biggest allman bros fan but i do like trucks's albumsyeah it is which makes it suck even more...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 well this is a kick in the balls.hittin the note is criminally underrated IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Saw Trucks when he toured in Clapton's band. He's a monster. He and Haynes have a great thing going, sorry to see them leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I really liked At The Filmore East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I really liked At The Filmore East One of the best live albums of all time IMHO but they were never the same band after Duane died.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Gotta say, I saw them double headline with Santana a few summers ago. I thought the Allman's set was boring, a bit obscure, and had too many long jams. Santana kept the crowd engaged the entire time and sort of blew the Allman's off the stage. I have never a big Allman's fan, and that show didn't help my view of them at all, but there's no question that Haynes and Trucks are excellent blues players who work well together. I look forward to hearing more from both of them, together or separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If you can go to an Allman show and complain about "too many jams," I'm not surprised that you don't like them nor should you. They are a jam band. That's what they do. No problem with that, just...yeah. That's them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) If you can go to an Allman show and complain about "too many jams," I'm not surprised that you don't like them nor should you. They are a jam band. That's what they do. No problem with that, just...yeah. That's them.Exactly! that is what Live at the Fillmore East is all about, long jams, and the reason their fans love them.......I don't mean this with disrespect OB, as that type of music is not for everyone, but if you don't like long jams don't ever go to a Allman Brothers show...........But I do agree with you on Santana my wife and I went to the show in Hartford, CT and Santana co-headlined and opened for the Allmans and he and his band were amazing......between Santana and the Allman's it was one of the better concerts I have seen in the last 20 years........ Edited January 12, 2014 by classicrawker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 BTW Sugar if you liked Live at the Fillmore I highly recommend you try Live at SUNY Stonybrook college 9-19-71 as it is an official release with songs from the first and second shows that day and is amazing.................just don't tell me how you acquire it............. Here is a a very rare song from those shows that was not played often and the guitar solos by Duane Allman and Dickie Betts are epic..............this is excellent toking music as it will but a big grin on your face............. Warning if you don't like long jams you will hate this............... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JJ9lnUBBDU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not offended at all, in fact it's a good point you guys raised; I don't really listen to any jam bands. Even the Zepp stuff that drags on is tough for me to get into (though I'm a big Zepp fan). The Allman's/Santana show was lawn seats so I think I paid something like $27 for the tickets with a group of friends so it seemed like a pretty simple choice to go, at the very least to see the two guitar greats on stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Eat a Peach (1972) is my favorite album of all time. I've listened to that one record more than any other, but the (above) video is my favorite "modern-era" Allman's jam (from 1994). Losing Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes is pretty huge news. I've seen the Derek Trucks Band and the Trucks-Tedeschi band and I'm a big fan, so I'm kind of excited to see what those guys are going to do next. Edited January 12, 2014 by John Bonham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not offended at all, in fact it's a good point you guys raised; I don't really listen to any jam bands. Even the Zepp stuff that drags on is tough for me to get into (though I'm a big Zepp fan). The Allman's/Santana show was lawn seats so I think I paid something like $27 for the tickets with a group of friends so it seemed like a pretty simple choice to go, at the very least to see the two guitar greats on stage.We were lucky and I got 10th row center seats through the Allman Bros fan club but they were worth every penny! Such a great show........... Eat a Peach (1972) is my favorite album of all time. I've listened to that one record more than any other, but the (above) video is my favorite "modern-era" Allman's jam (from 1994).Losing Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes is pretty huge news. I've seen the Derek Trucks Band and the Trucks-Tedeschi band and I'm a big fan, so I'm kind of excited to see what those guys are going to do next. Eat a Peach is amazing...do you have the deluxe edition as it has one of the shows from the 2 day closing of the Fillmore East as a bonus disk................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hopefully he's going to concentrate more on Tedeschi Trucks Band. That's a very solid outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I really liked At The Filmore East One of the best live albums of all time IMHO but they were never the same band after Duane died..........I only heard em cuz moreblack on here reccomended them a while ago so I gave em a shot and, that album at least, i thought fantastic. Wonderful music to drive to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I respect the band, they are the true kings of southern rock, not Lynyrd Skynyrd. But having said that I am bored to death with all southern rock. In todays day and age its just known as country. Boring, bland, every song has the same damn guitar fills. The Allmans and Skynyrd I will always have loads of respect for, but I am not sad if both bands called it a day. Also I don't know how either band calls themselves Allman's or Skynyrd. It's more of an atrosity than NUgnr imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 I respect the band, they are the true kings of southern rock, not Lynyrd Skynyrd. But having said that I am bored to death with all southern rock. In todays day and age its just known as country. Boring, bland, every song has the same damn guitar fills.The Allmans and Skynyrd I will always have loads of respect for, but I am not sad if both bands called it a day. Also I don't know how either band calls themselves Allman's or Skynyrd. It's more of an atrosity than NUgnr imo.Live at the FIllmore is boring? guess you don't like long jams then............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I never said Live at the fillmore was boring, don't be putting words in my mouth man. I said I have become bored with the whole southern rock sound, which is my way of saying that I've heard it all so much that it doesn't do anything for me anymore, not that it never did. I used to LOVE that shit about 10~15 years ago.Plus I also started by saying the Allman's are the true kings of southern rock, not lynyrd skynyrd. Which might piss off skynyrd fans, but it is 100% true. Skynyrd rode the Allman's coat tails like a cheap groupie. Skynyrd is the band that (with the exception of 2 or 3 songs) I can't fucking stand anymore. Free Bird and Sweet home Alabama are two of the most overrated songs in rock history in my humble opinion. Edited January 13, 2014 by Mike420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Im the opposite, aside from Credence i aint never listened to no Southern rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Im the opposite, aside from Credence i aint never listened to no Southern rock.Creedence is hardly southern rock btw. But I'm assuming a lot of that has to do with you not being from here. Sometime during Kid Rock's career, country kinda ate up what was left of southern rock. Now it's this hybred country/pop/southern rock thing, all of which makes me want to puke. Like I said Lynyrd Skynyrd are praised long and far for being the kings of this crap. They are like the uniting force. All the red necks from Michigan down to Florida can all bang their heads in unison to the all mighty Free Bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Im the opposite, aside from Credence i aint never listened to no Southern rock.Creedence is hardly southern rock btw. But I'm assuming a lot of that has to do with you not being from here. Sometime during Kid Rock's career, country kinda ate up what was left of southern rock. Now it's this hybred country/pop/southern rock thing, all of which makes me want to puke. Like I said Lynyrd Skynyrd are praised long and far for being the kings of this crap. They are like the uniting force. All the red necks from Michigan down to Florida can all bang their heads in unison to the all mighty Free Bird.Actually they did have that Southern Rock feel or maybe we can call it Swamp rock as in this Wiki entry......The band consisted of lead vocalist, lead guitarist, and primary songwriter John Fogerty, rhythm guitarist Tom Fogerty (John's brother), bassist Stu Cook, and drummer Doug Clifford. Their musical style encompassed the roots rock and swamp rock genres. Despite their San Francisco Bay Area origins, they portrayed a Southern rock style, singing about bayous, catfish, the Mississippi River, and other popular elements of Southern iconography.but Modern Country is nothing like Southern Rock IMHO, it is the worst combo of shitty country and pop..........and have to disagree with you on Skynyrd as I agree they are overexposed but they have some awesome music and as someone who saw the original lineup live they put on a kick ass show......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I saw Tedeschi Trucks Band last month, I can see why he's splitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 but Modern Country is nothing like Southern Rock IMHO, it is the worst combo of shitty country and pop..........and have to disagree with you on Skynyrd as I agree they are overexposed but they have some awesome music and as someone who saw the original lineup live they put on a kick ass show.........This.I agree that a few of Skynyrd's songs are overplayed: Gimme Three Steps, Sweet Home, What's Your Name etc. But they have some great material on their albums that are fairly interesting musically(i.e., not simple chord progressions), and aren't really played on the radio. I'll happily listen to Skynyrd any time of the day, Gaines/Rossington was one of the best guitar duos during the 70's, though it was short lived. And Allen Collins was excellent too when he was playing lead.Modern country does not sound like southern rock to me. I've heard quite a few of the current popular country artists, and its fairly simply structured songs with the same redundant lyrical content. CR's description of it as a "shitty combo of country and pop" is spot on. Don't get me wrong, not all of the current country artists are doing this, but a lot of the popular ones are. Regardless of what it is, it doesn't sound anything like Skynyrd or the Allman's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 but Modern Country is nothing like Southern Rock IMHO, it is the worst combo of shitty country and pop..........and have to disagree with you on Skynyrd as I agree they are overexposed but they have some awesome music and as someone who saw the original lineup live they put on a kick ass show.........This.I agree that a few of Skynyrd's songs are overplayed: Gimme Three Steps, Sweet Home, What's Your Name etc. But they have some great material on their albums that are fairly interesting musically(i.e., not simple chord progressions), and aren't really played on the radio. I'll happily listen to Skynyrd any time of the day, Gaines/Rossington was one of the best guitar duos during the 70's, though it was short lived. And Allen Collins was excellent too when he was playing lead.Modern country does not sound like southern rock to me. I've heard quite a few of the current popular country artists, and its fairly simply structured songs with the same redundant lyrical content. CR's description of it as a "shitty combo of country and pop" is spot on. Don't get me wrong, not all of the current country artists are doing this, but a lot of the popular ones are. Regardless of what it is, it doesn't sound anything like Skynyrd or the Allman's.definitely agree with all this. lynyrd skynyrd has so many good songs and arguably their best songs are never put on the radio. as for modern country it just sounds like pop music with a southern drawl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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